Has political correctness actually gone mad?

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Why not have man of the match for the men’s game and woman of the match for the women’s? Am I missing something obvious?
 
The Corinthian said:
Why not have man of the match for the men’s game and woman of the match for the women’s? Am I missing something obvious?
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What if they don't identify as man or woman?

It's a little thing that costs nothing, offends no one, doesn't change the meaning of the award and is more inclusive.
 
The Corinthian said:
Why not have man of the match for the men’s game and woman of the match for the women’s? Am I missing something obvious?
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I don’t think there was anything wrong with man of the match, given that everyone on that pitch is a man. Obviously you’d want something else for women’s football .
 
The Corinthian said:
Why not have man of the match for the men’s game and woman of the match for the women’s? Am I missing something obvious?
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2 man midfield said:
I don’t think there was anything wrong with man of the match, given that everyone on that pitch is a man. Obviously you’d want something else for women’s football .
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Not everyone in the world that plays ‘men’ or ‘womens’ football will identify as a ‘man’ or ‘woman’. It is a small change that helps football become more inclusive on the biggest stage.
 
SilentWitness said:
Not everyone in the world that plays ‘men’ or ‘womens’ football will identify as a ‘man’ or ‘woman’. It is a small change that helps football become more inclusive on the biggest stage.
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It's also mostly a great point scoring change that doesnt actually chance anything in the ridiculously backward and conservative industry that is football.

No sane person should give a feck about them changing this, but neither should any sane person mistake this for football giving a feck about inclusivity. It's just PR. Like BP and their carbon footprint or Shell advocating for green energy.
 
SilentWitness said:
Not everyone in the world that plays ‘men’ or ‘womens’ football will identify as a ‘man’ or ‘woman’. It is a small change that helps football become more inclusive on the biggest stage.
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Surely it shouldn’t be called men’s football either then.
 
We should fight back. Player of the Year Cristiano Ronaldo? No, Man of the Year. Team of the Season? Men of the Season, thank you very much. Golden Boot? Golden Menswear.
 
Player of the Match is fine, surely? The morons online moaning about wokeness just need to shut the feck up for once, that would be great. They haven't got any good argument to make against the change so they just revert to a term they've heard Farage blurt out a few times anyway, but I love how they always assume that things have been done to annoy them.

Knowing the Premier League they've done it so that they don't have to print two separate production lines of award trophies or some other cost saving exercise, not because the elite Hollywood salad munching libs bullied them into it...
 
KirkDuyt said:
It's also mostly a great point scoring change that doesnt actually chance anything in the ridiculously backward and conservative industry that is football.

No sane person should give a feck about them changing this, but neither should any sane person mistake this for football giving a feck about inclusivity. It's just PR. Like BP and their carbon footprint or Shell advocating for green energy.
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It's also easier to just call it the same thing no matter who's playing. Same graphic, same wording on the little trophy etc.
 
2 man midfield said:
Surely it shouldn’t be called men’s football either then.
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I don’t know many people that go around calling it mens football, do you? If I’m talking about Everton I don’t usually reference what side I’m talking about etc. either way the majority of people that play ‘mens’ or ‘womens’ football will identify as that. This just helps that specific type of being more gender neutral and it’s really nothing major that needs to be called out as such.
 
SilentWitness said:
I don’t know many people that go around calling it mens football, do you? If I’m talking about Everton I don’t usually reference what side I’m talking about etc.
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No I don’t personally, but that’s what it’s called colloquially I guess. If someone who doesn’t identify as a man was to get offended by man of the match, they’d also be offended by men’s football, you’d think. I don’t think anyone has complained, it’s just sky getting out in front of it probably. It’s not a big deal either way.
 
2 man midfield said:
No I don’t personally, but that’s what it’s called colloquially I guess. If someone who doesn’t identify as a man was to get offended by man of the match, they’d also be offended by men’s football, you’d think. I don’t think anyone has complained, it’s just sky getting out in front of it probably. It’s not a big deal either way.
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I don’t think people need to be offended for us as a society to be more inclusive.
 
Should have changed it to MVP just for the hilarity it would cause from people losing their minds over Americanisms.
 
Withnail said:
It's also easier to just call it the same thing no matter who's playing. Same graphic, same wording on the little trophy etc.
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Yeah, player of the match sounds fine to me. These pointless gestures just annoy me a bit with the Qatar world cup coming up and Qatar not exactly being an inclusive paradise of inclusivity.

We all love inclusivity, unless your misogynist regime gives us a giant bag of money.
 
KirkDuyt said:
Yeah, player of the match sounds fine to me. These pointless gestures just annoy me a bit with the Qatar world cup coming up and Qatar not exactly being an inclusive paradise of inclusivity.

We all love inclusivity, unless your misogynist regime gives us a giant bag of money.
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Maybe I'm missing something but I don't really see the connection between the TV stations making this change and FIFA making corrupt decisions on the destination of the WC.
 
Withnail said:
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't really see the connection between the TV stations making this change and FIFA making corrupt decisions on the destination of the WC.
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There isn't really. It's just the reason why my initial response to the subject was a bit prickly (not sure if that's a word). I would love to see fundamental changes with regards to inclusivity instead of these superficial things. I suppose it's not the BBC's fault the world cup is in Qatar :wenger:
 
Sound strategy. It is well known that when you simply don't talk about bad things, they cease to exist.
 
Does the Sanna Marin thing fit this thread? Or is being politically correct ok if you're a prude conservative cnut?
 
KirkDuyt said:
Does the Sanna Marin thing fit this thread? Or is being politically correct ok if you're a prude conservative cnut?
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I’ve got left wing politics but I want her sacked tbh. I mean who the hell is dancing to Black Eyes Peas - I’ve got a feeling in 2022.

No style, get rid.
 
Sweet Square said:
I’ve got left wing politics but I want her sacked tbh. I mean who the hell is dancing to Black Eyes Peas - I’ve got a feeling in 2022.

No style, get rid.
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I've Got a Feeling is the new The Final Countdown, whether that's good or bad is up for interpretation but after 40 years it was due a change.
 
NotThatSoph said:
I've Got a Feeling is the new The Final Countdown, whether that's good or bad is up for interpretation but after 40 years it was due a change.
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My first memory of the Final Countdown is it being the goal tune for a Scandinavian Ice hockey team at the Olympics. Think it was Sweden... Not sure which Olympics though. Maybe 88? Always been in awe of the song because of it somehow.
 
KirkDuyt said:
My first memory of the Final Countdown is it being the goal tune for a Scandinavian Ice hockey team at the Olympics. Think it was Sweden... Not sure which Olympics though. Maybe 88? Always been in awe of the song because of it somehow.
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My last memory, so far, is from last saturday when a group of 50 year olds belted it out with impressive volume and an interesting form of tune. I hope it's my somewhat younger I've Got a Feeling neighbours' turn to have a party next weekend.
 
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