Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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What is that even about, shows how out of touch with modern gaming I am but I don't recognize the character?
Undoubtedly yes.
It was political correctness, or more specifically, race relations that led to thousands of non-Muslim children to get groomed, tortured and gang-raped by Muslim grooming gangs in the UK.
The utter cowardice of our police force, agencies and civil servants who let this continue for decades makes my blood boil.
It was political correctness, or more specifically, race relations that led to thousands of non-Muslim children to get groomed, tortured and gang-raped by Muslim grooming gangs in the UK.
The utter cowardice of our police force, agencies and civil servants who let this continue for decades makes my blood boil.
The fact that you're trying to emphasis that they are Muslim, and that the victims are non-Muslim, is part of the reason why I can understand one would be hesitant to mention the religious aspect.
Why does it matter that the grooming gangs were Muslim or even immigrant background? Good ol' white British Christians don't go around raping children? I would love to know when previous rapes were committed if it were mentioned that the person is white, British and Christian, if we want the same standards.
Go get em, tiger.
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec...-admits-grooming-gangs-are-not-muslim-problem
Analysis: A new Home Office report admits grooming gangs are not a ‘Muslim problem'
20 December 2020
The study finds no credible evidence for a far-right stereotype that has spread widely in the media, writes Dr Ella Cockbain (UCL Security & Crime Science) in a joint-authored article.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...w-race-religion-home-office-b1774161.html?amp
Grooming gangs come from ‘diverse backgrounds’, says Home Office as review finally published
“Research has found that group-based child sexual exploitation (CSE) offenders are most commonly white," it added.
"To be fair, I am bit racist."
Have you heard of the Catholic Church?
I respect that they owned it!"To be fair, I am bit racist."
I think y'all are mis-interpreting him. I don't think he specifically implied grooming was a Muslim problem, but rather that law enforcement was hesitant in tackling specific cases for reasons of racism optics. Whether that is true or not, I don't know. But I think that's what @MalcolmTucker is saying.
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Aye, obviously what he was saying is a lot of shite but it's actually kind of refreshing for someone to just out themselves like that, rather than those who are clearly racist but when called out will act offended and strenuously deny it, the type who will use dog whistles and subtle language to try and disguise what they are.
There's this infamous quote from a Soldiers of Odin Facebook group that I won't post because it's in Norwegian.
The admins called for a boycott of kebabs and all other "Muslim" food, and said that people should eat traditional Norwegian food.
A member replied that even though he's pretty racist this is going too far, people should be able to eat whatever they want.
Have you actually read the report rather than just parroting misleading headlines?
When you actually look into the report, all the studies show that White people (approximately 88% of the population) are hugely underrepresented and Asians (7% of the population) and Black people (3% of the population) are hugely overrepresented. Even if you look at study b, which claims Whites are the largest category, when we look into the report we see:
35% were White with only 11% being British (underrepresented)
28% were of Asian & Middle Eastern descent (4x over base representation)
16% were Black (5.3x overrepresentation)
The media telling us it's most commonly White is like saying a Labrador is more dangerous than an adder because more people die from dog bites in Britain every year. Unfortunately people like you fall for it.
And these statistics are just the abusers who have been arrested. As I alluded to in my original post, if you look into the Rotherham and Telford reports, it explicitly states that this has been covered up and suppressed because of the racial element.
At 10m19s of this BBC Panorama documentary, a Home Office researcher was told to never refer to grooming gang perpetrators as Asian men and was sent on a diversity course. She was told to change her findings and had her data stolen. Also in the documentary it shows how a 13 year old girl took a bloody coat she was gang-raped in to the police and they 'lost' the DNA evidence. In the documentary, it shows how many of the abusers are inexplicably still free and how the police turned a blind eye, in some cases arresting the girls. One abuser told a victim that if he got in trouble, he'd play the race card.
The recent Telford Report details how the rapists would take girls out to remote locations at night and threaten to abandon them if they did not engage in sexual behaviour; or would simply rape them. Girls would get taken to rooms in nightclubs, restaurants and takeaways to be exploited by multiple men - there was even a known 'rape house'. Disclosures were made that there were minibuses full of children being trafficked out of Telford for the purposes of gang rape. Witnesses have said the 1,000 abused children figure being touted is 'conservative' or 'tame' and this is only in the town of Telford. When the girls attempted to end the abuse, the men would remind them of what happened to Lucy Lowe, a grooming gang victim who was burned alive by her abuser, along with her family in a deliberate house fire - Lucy had a child with her abuser when she was only 14 who managed to survive and there's a documentary about her story. The report confirms that the majority of the CSE suspects in Telford were ‘of southern Asian heritage’. However, these men were protected by the police, the council, teachers and agencies because of fears of racism
This is overwhelmingly a Pakistani Muslim problem and the biggest child protection scandal in UK history. Since the 80s, hundreds of thousands of underage White and Sikh girls have gang-raped, beaten and tortured by Muslim grooming gangs. Teenage girls were targeted because they were White and called worthless and trash - it is the most egregious example of racism in modern Britain, yet the people who have responded to this thread have glibly called me racist for pointing out this tragedy and cover up. I will suspend my ire and assume most of you do this because you are simply ignorant and will read this information I've provided and revise your opinion on the subject. I urge people to read the Telford report and watch the Panorama documentary and an interview with a grooming gang survivor to get understanding of how horrific the crimes are and who has been committing them.
@The Corinthian @Peter van der Gea - do any of you have a response?
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When the feck did I call you a racist?
Where did I call you racist? I called you a tiger. And no I haven’t had the time to respond, can do so when I’m on a laptop and not my phone.
@MalcolmTucker - do you have a response? You were in a rush to say I called you a racist yet you've been remarkably silent since my above post?
This is the order of the posts you were quoting:
"To be fair, I am bit racist."
What was I outing myself as @Cascarino?
Have you actually read the report rather than just parroting misleading headlines?
When you actually look into the report, all the studies show that White people (approximately 88% of the population) are hugely underrepresented and Asians (7% of the population) and Black people (3% of the population) are hugely overrepresented. Even if you look at study b, which claims Whites are the largest category, when we look into the report we see:
35% were White with only 11% being British (underrepresented)
28% were of Asian & Middle Eastern descent (4x over base representation)
16% were Black (5.3x overrepresentation)
The media telling us it's most commonly White is like saying a Labrador is more dangerous than an adder because more people die from dog bites in Britain every year. Unfortunately people like you fall for it.
And these statistics are just the abusers who have been arrested. As I alluded to in my original post, if you look into the Rotherham and Telford reports, it explicitly states that this has been covered up and suppressed because of the racial element.
At 10m19s of this BBC Panorama documentary, a Home Office researcher was told to never refer to grooming gang perpetrators as Asian men and was sent on a diversity course. She was told to change her findings and had her data stolen. Also in the documentary it shows how a 13 year old girl took a bloody coat she was gang-raped in to the police and they 'lost' the DNA evidence. In the documentary, it shows how many of the abusers are inexplicably still free and how the police turned a blind eye, in some cases arresting the girls. One abuser told a victim that if he got in trouble, he'd play the race card.
The recent Telford Report details how the rapists would take girls out to remote locations at night and threaten to abandon them if they did not engage in sexual behaviour; or would simply rape them. Girls would get taken to rooms in nightclubs, restaurants and takeaways to be exploited by multiple men - there was even a known 'rape house'. Disclosures were made that there were minibuses full of children being trafficked out of Telford for the purposes of gang rape. Witnesses have said the 1,000 abused children figure being touted is 'conservative' or 'tame' and this is only in the town of Telford. When the girls attempted to end the abuse, the men would remind them of what happened to Lucy Lowe, a grooming gang victim who was burned alive by her abuser, along with her family in a deliberate house fire - Lucy had a child with her abuser when she was only 14 who managed to survive and there's a documentary about her story. The report confirms that the majority of the CSE suspects in Telford were ‘of southern Asian heritage’. However, these men were protected by the police, the council, teachers and agencies because of fears of racism
This is overwhelmingly a Pakistani Muslim problem and the biggest child protection scandal in UK history. Since the 80s, hundreds of thousands of underage White and Sikh girls have gang-raped, beaten and tortured by Muslim grooming gangs. Teenage girls were targeted because they were White and called worthless and trash - it is the most egregious example of racism in modern Britain, yet the people who have responded to this thread have glibly called me racist for pointing out this tragedy and cover up. I will suspend my ire and assume most of you do this because you are simply ignorant and will read this information I've provided and revise your opinion on the subject. I urge people to read the Telford report and watch the Panorama documentary and an interview with a grooming gang survivor to get understanding of how horrific the crimes are and who has been committing them.
Re your statistics about race, you’re relying on the overall Uk population being 88% white in order to support the idea that brown/black people are over-represented amongst the abusers. I’m sure that 88% figure doesn’t hold true in the predominantly very poor neighbourhoods where these girls and their predators live. Once you try and factor that in there’s a good chance the apparent ethnic bias goes away.
That's what we were talking about. It's so blatantly obvious that's what we were talking about. I've met trees with better comprehension than you
Also. Strange choice of thread to discuss child abuse.
Exactly, race is often interwoven with economic class. So if you take economic sections and then analyse by race often the stats are wholly different.
So your argument is very poor neighbourhoods have more brown and black people and that's why they are overrepresented? Are you suggesting that poverty causes people to gang-rape underage girls? Is there some phenomenon where any group of people who move into say Rotherham or Rochdale would be more inclined to participate in child sex exploitation no matter their culture? Why don't we see grooming gangs in even more deprived areas in Wales? These crimes were being committed by people who owned nightclubs, restaurants and takeaways in places like Oxford, Bristol and London. It's a very poor attempt to explain away a 4x over base representation and that's before we take into account that there's been a massive cover up as evidenced in the Telford report and Panorama documentary - the overrepresentation is much, much higher at least for the Pakistani Muslim demographic.
This thread is about political correctness, which is often mocked by the members of the board, however as you can see from the Telford report, political correctness can have the most horrific consequences
Why the feck have I been misquoted in this thread?
I thought this was the torrent thread. I was very confused.
My apologies, I didn't read that post. Obviously I wasn't alone as @VorZakone assumed you guys were referring to me as well.
Also @MalcolmTucker is a massive racist.
This.
@MalcolmTucker, when the feck did I call you racist? I asked if you've heard of the Catholic Church. You know, that 2000 year old, historically predominantly white males, well known for child abuse?
Your post is bellend
Your post is bellend
Criticise the post, not the poster.
Have you heard of whataboutism? What does paedophilia in the Catholic Church have to do with Muslim rape gangs? Both can be evil and exist at the same time.
If someone brought up the child abuse in the Catholic Church you certainly wouldn't bring up Muslim grooming gangs as some weird deflection, would you?
Telford is 91% White yet the Telford inquiry reported that “it all appears to revolve around young Muslim men as they are the main perpetrators working in gangs/groups".
The town is 4.7% Asian yet the report shows that the perpetrators are Muslims (who represent a smaller number than 4.7% as I'm sure there are Hindus, Sikhs and East Asians in Telford too, who are unfortunately lumped in under the category of 'Asian'). This argument falls flat on its face in so many ways I find it astounding that anyone can agree with it.
I bought up the Catholic Church, because if you're gonna talk about grooming gangs, you should talk about the biggest one, which is not Muslim.
Have you actually read the report rather than just parroting misleading headlines?
When you actually look into the report, all the studies show that White people (approximately 88% of the population) are hugely underrepresented and Asians (7% of the population) and Black people (3% of the population) are hugely overrepresented. Even if you look at study b, which claims Whites are the largest category, when we look into the report we see:
35% were White with only 11% being British (underrepresented)
28% were of Asian & Middle Eastern descent (4x over base representation)
16% were Black (5.3x overrepresentation)
The media telling us it's most commonly White is like saying a Labrador is more dangerous than an adder because more people die from dog bites in Britain every year. Unfortunately people like you fall for it.
And these statistics are just the abusers who have been arrested. As I alluded to in my original post, if you look into the Rotherham and Telford reports, it explicitly states that this has been covered up and suppressed because of the racial element.
At 10m19s of this BBC Panorama documentary, a Home Office researcher was told to never refer to grooming gang perpetrators as Asian men and was sent on a diversity course. She was told to change her findings and had her data stolen. Also in the documentary it shows how a 13 year old girl took a bloody coat she was gang-raped in to the police and they 'lost' the DNA evidence. In the documentary, it shows how many of the abusers are inexplicably still free and how the police turned a blind eye, in some cases arresting the girls. One abuser told a victim that if he got in trouble, he'd play the race card.
The recent Telford Report details how the rapists would take girls out to remote locations at night and threaten to abandon them if they did not engage in sexual behaviour; or would simply rape them. Girls would get taken to rooms in nightclubs, restaurants and takeaways to be exploited by multiple men - there was even a known 'rape house'. Disclosures were made that there were minibuses full of children being trafficked out of Telford for the purposes of gang rape. Witnesses have said the 1,000 abused children figure being touted is 'conservative' or 'tame' and this is only in the town of Telford. When the girls attempted to end the abuse, the men would remind them of what happened to Lucy Lowe, a grooming gang victim who was burned alive by her abuser, along with her family in a deliberate house fire - Lucy had a child with her abuser when she was only 14 who managed to survive and there's a documentary about her story. The report confirms that the majority of the CSE suspects in Telford were ‘of southern Asian heritage’. However, these men were protected by the police, the council, teachers and agencies because of fears of racism
This is overwhelmingly a Pakistani Muslim problem and the biggest child protection scandal in UK history. Since the 80s, hundreds of thousands of underage White and Sikh girls have gang-raped, beaten and tortured by Muslim grooming gangs. Teenage girls were targeted because they were White and called worthless and trash - it is the most egregious example of racism in modern Britain, yet the people who have responded to this thread have glibly called me racist for pointing out this tragedy and cover up. I will suspend my ire and assume most of you do this because you are simply ignorant and will read this information I've provided and revise your opinion on the subject. I urge people to read the Telford report and watch the Panorama documentary and an interview with a grooming gang survivor to get understanding of how horrific the crimes are and who has been committing them.
If you could stop all White gang rapes, or all ‘Muslim’ gang rapes, simply by snapping your fingers, which do you stop?
You’re getting caught up in % of population statistics, which is often the case with racists online (I am categorically not saying you are racist).
If you believe that a tenfold increase in the ‘Muslim’ population would lead to a tenfold increase in those numbers, then that’s fair to believe. Personally, I don’t.
This is a completely irrelevant point to make. Adds nothing to the discussion.
I actually thought @MalcolmTucker was going to emphasize a different point.
And the point (or question) is: were law enforcement reluctant or hesitant to look into specific cases for fear of being deemed racist? What do the researchers of those investigations or reports say about that?
Wasn't that one of the talking points for the Rotherham cases?
And the point (or question) is: were law enforcement reluctant or hesitant to look into specific cases for fear of being deemed racist? What do the researchers of those investigations or reports say about that?
Wasn't that one of the talking points for the Rotherham cases?
Only because you know the answer is ‘White’.
The rest of my post speaks to that.
If this country was full of adults and not racist uneducated scumbags, there would be a conversation to have regarding the over representation of certain crimes by certain skin tones, religions, etc.
Financial Fraud is never spoken about as a ‘white problem’, despite the fact that even when allowing for population make up, white people commit a staggeringly high number compared to ‘others’.
We don’t have that conversation as the right wing can’t weaponise it against brown people.
The table in the post I replied to had an awful number of crimes committed by white people, and a lower number of crimes committed by brown people. But the hysteria is around the smaller value. It’s Fcuking awful. It basically ignores people raped by white peoples as there’s no political currency there.
Grooming gangs all follow the same principles. It’s one problem. It’s not a bunch of problems in different colours.
So I’m sorry if you thought my point added nothing to the discussion. You’re wrong.
Your premise was essentially: if you could stop all crimes from a majority population group or a minority population group, which do you stop?
It's an irrelevant hypothetical.
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The important question here seems to be whether or not there’s any truth in the accusations of light touch policing because of fear of being accused of racism. The relative numbers of brown vs white predators becomes a bit of a side issue if we have evidence that one set is categorically less likely to be investigated/prosecuted than the other.
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