Has political correctness actually gone mad?

Rich was a post-doc in Sabatini's lab.



funnily enough there is a former student of his who did go on the record, and she wasn't mentioned in this article at all, not sure why.

ground-breaking research takes a backseat to an ideal of social purity, and that subjective truth is the only truth that matters.

with david sabatini, we have lost the current otto warburg. and today, as we speak, modern-day current da vinci has been hit by the wokeistan.
 
I don't know anything about that case, but the author of that article has a very distinct history in choice of topics, it seems.

The complaint can be read here (pdf). It's long, 52 pages. What should come as no surprise, however, is that it includes a lot of stuff this author forgot to mention.
 
I'm not usually into rap, but was randomly suggested this one yesterday.
The guy nails it.

 
I'm not usually into rap, but was randomly suggested this one yesterday.
The guy nails it.


He sings facts dont care about your feelings.

Lost me there :lol:

Wait why is he saying we're ashamed to be American. He's Canadian.
 
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What, exactly, is it you think he nails?

That woke and cancel culture are getting out of hand.
The fact that many of these words can barely be mentioned before you're accused of being racist or somethingphobe.
I saw a reaction to it on youtube, and the so called reactor had a reaction because he said... can't remember which it was, but she said "no you can't sing that" - she didn't even consider what he said, just that he said a certain word or sentence.

I liked the "it's not hate speech, it's speech that you hate" - part. If you disagree about one of the touchy subject, you're automatically anti that.
 
That woke and cancel culture are getting out of hand.
The fact that many of these words can barely be mentioned before you're accused of being racist or somethingphobe.
I saw a reaction to it on youtube, and the so called reactor had a reaction because he said... can't remember which it was, but she said "no you can't sing that" - she didn't even consider what he said, just that he said a certain word or sentence.

I liked the "it's not hate speech, it's speech that you hate" - part. If you disagree about one of the touchy subject, you're automatically anti that.

For those of us who didn't listen to the song, what words are really fine to say but get you accused of being racist these days?

It has to be said that watching reaction videos is the lowest of low-hanging fruit. You might as well go into YouTube comment sections to form an opinion on cancel culture. It's literally meaningless.
 
That woke and cancel culture are getting out of hand.
The fact that many of these words can barely be mentioned before you're accused of being racist or somethingphobe.
I saw a reaction to it on youtube, and the so called reactor had a reaction because he said... can't remember which it was, but she said "no you can't sing that" - she didn't even consider what he said, just that he said a certain word or sentence.

I liked the "it's not hate speech, it's speech that you hate" - part. If you disagree about one of the touchy subject, you're automatically anti that.
Which words? He just claims things you say get labeled homophobic or racist. It's completely meaningless on it's own. Given that it's Tom MacDonald, it's pretty safe to assume that most of those things are actually homophobic or racist.

There's a line in the song which, given that he's a reactionary right-wing dipshit, can only really be read as him thinking famous people being exposed as sexpests and rapists is a bad thing.

The "facts" he keeps alluding to are definitely right wing conspiracy theories regarding covid, vaccines and the 2020 US presidential elections.

He also claims US police are underfunded. Yeah.

Then there's his roundabout way of saying "aLl liVeS mAtTEr"

The line's actually "there's a difference between hate speech and speech that you hate." Technically true, I guess, but what's he referring to? What speech is erroneously labeled hate speech?

Whole song's just a bunch of whining about vaguely defined grievances, much like all whining about SJWs, PC gone mad and wokeism is.
 
Rich was a post-doc in Sabatini's lab.


No sympathy from me here.
He was in a realtionship that went south. It happens.
However, it's always tricky with that kind of a power distance.
 
Seeing as that is quite literally only one (extraordinarily long) side of the story, it seems fair enough to gloss over a lot of the content.

This case is about David Sabatini, M.D., Ph.D. (“Sabatini” or “Counter-Claim Defendant”), a tenured professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (“MIT”), who – up to the summer of 2021 – believed himself so important and so influential that, no matter what his misconduct, he would suffer no consequences.

If the rest of this counterclaim sounds like the opening paragraph, then it's probably a bunch of faff.
 
This case is about David Sabatini, M.D., Ph.D. (“Sabatini” or “Counter-Claim Defendant”), a tenured professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (“MIT”), who – up to the summer of 2021 – believed himself so important and so influential that, no matter what his misconduct, he would suffer no consequences.

If the rest of this counterclaim sounds like the opening paragraph, then it's probably a bunch of faff.

Is that your professional opinion, your honor?
 
“Let’s address ‘Could a straight man do what I did in Philadelphia now?’” said Hanks. “No, and rightly so. The whole point of Philadelphia was don’t be afraid. One of the reasons people weren’t afraid of that movie is that I was playing a gay man. We’re beyond that now, and I don’t think people would accept the inauthenticity of a straight guy playing a gay guy.”

Thoughts on this?

Presumably, by equal measure, gay guys should no longer be accepting straight roles or something?

Serial killer movies to become a thing of the past due to the inavailabilty of actors with multiple murder convictions.
 
Thoughts on this?

Presumably, by equal measure, gay guys should no longer be accepting straight roles or something?

Serial killer movies to become a thing of the past due to the inavailabilty of actors with multiple murder convictions.
I think it's a non-problem. I'm fine with straight actors playing a gay role. Hanks was very good in that movie, why would it be 'wrong' to replicate that today?
 
I wonder if he has similar feelings about having played Forrest Gump.
 
Thoughts on this?

Presumably, by equal measure, gay guys should no longer be accepting straight roles or something?

Serial killer movies to become a thing of the past due to the inavailabilty of actors with multiple murder convictions.
He has a point that it was seen as a real eye-opener for a straight guy to play a gay role like that and for a gay character to be the lead in a big film. I remember reading a piece about how Hanks and Sean Penn got oscars, Brokeback Mountain won big and some others got nominations for their 'brave' choice. More recently no-one gets nominated purely for playing a gay person.

I don't agree with only gay actors can play gay roles and presumably straight actors play straight roles though.
 
I think it's a non-problem. I'm fine with straight actors playing a gay role. Hanks was very good in that movie, why would it be 'wrong' to replicate that today?

The biggest travesty is how British actors are allowed to fake an accent and play Americans.
 
The thing is though, the heterosexual story is one we know, childhood teen, adult, marriage, kids.

It's been in every story since we started telling stories. So basically a gay actor knows the trials and tribulations of growing up straight and acting it.

However, the gay or trans or disabled stories are told far less, so less information is available, and what is out there is so little that it becomes stereotypes.
 
Thoughts on this?

Presumably, by equal measure, gay guys should no longer be accepting straight roles or something?

Serial killer movies to become a thing of the past due to the inavailabilty of actors with multiple murder convictions.

No it would be fine that way round.
 
My main issue with the idea only queer people should play queer roles is that it requires anyone playing one to be out. It's not good to demand people publicly declare they are gay/trans etc.
 
My main issue with the idea only queer people should play queer roles is that it requires anyone playing one to be out. It's not good to demand people publicly declare they are gay/trans etc.
Most likely only the publicly known gay actors would audition.
 
Thoughts on this? Presumably, by equal measure, gay guys should no longer be accepting straight roles or something?

These kind of contradictions arise from trying to combine 'representation as a labor issue' and 'representation as an artistic expression issue.'
 
The thing is though, the heterosexual story is one we know, childhood teen, adult, marriage, kids.

It's been in every story since we started telling stories. So basically a gay actor knows the trials and tribulations of growing up straight and acting it.

However, the gay or trans or disabled stories are told far less, so less information is available, and what is out there is so little that it becomes stereotypes.
well said. it leads to fetishization and terrible stereotypes that only cause more harm
 
Sorry Tom but this will always be for me the
ultimate male relationship on screen.
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Thoughts on this?

Presumably, by equal measure, gay guys should no longer be accepting straight roles or something?

Serial killer movies to become a thing of the past due to the inavailabilty of actors with multiple murder convictions.

Fecking stupid idea. Exactly the sort of nonsense that prompted the question in the thread title. Apart from anything else, what fecking right do casting directors have to demand to know the sexual preference of the person who turns up to the audition?!