This is honestly getting ridicilous in my opinion (if it's true).
Though, if the soldiers themselves are OK with it, then who are we to complain.
Are you interpreting it that way?Judging by the article, it's not a blanket ban on using the word "lad" in the army, but an attempt to avoid gendered terms like lad while talking about or to soldiers in Zoom/Team meetings. Because, obviously, some of those soldiers probably aren't lads.
Seems like just another example of the snowflakes at the Daily Mail being offended at something.
"Even if no women are present".Soldiers have been banned from referring to each other as ‘lads’ in the Army’s latest gender equality drive.
Troops from 22 Engineer Regiment were told not to use the word because it may cause offence, even if no women are present.
Judging by the article, it's not a blanket ban on using the word "lad" in the army, but an attempt to avoid gendered terms like lad while talking about or to soldiers in Zoom/Team meetings. Because, obviously, some of those soldiers probably aren't lads.
Seems like just another example of the snowflakes at the Daily Mail being offended at something.
Are you interpreting it that way?
"Even if no women are present".
Also, the words "mankind" and "sportsmanship", really?
The ban on ‘lads’ has emerged in a set of orders given by 22 Engineer Regiment’s sergeant major to all troops taking part in online meetings.
He told his troops that ‘values and standards’ [V and S] had been slacking recently while using Zoom calls or Microsoft Teams meetings to conduct military business.
He said: ‘There has been a drop in V and S over the last few weeks... Saluting/bracing up [coming to attention]... make sure people are getting paid the correct compliments... All are to remember D and I [diversity and inclusion] – “gents”, “men”, “lads” and other phrases are not to be used.’
This is honestly getting ridicilous in my opinion (if it's true).
Though, if the soldiers themselves are OK with it, then who are we to complain.
What about this?Those are from the Daily Mail's summary, which I don't really trust. The article goes on to say this:
A serving soldier said: ‘I’ve served on operations with lots of women. I didn’t meet one who was offended by the word “lads”.
'Someone of such a sensitive nature, be they male or female, would not last five minutes.
'I think the bosses are trying to solve a problem which frankly doesn’t exist.
'There is no engrained or subconscious bias in the use of words like “lads”... This is nonsense
They probably wouldn't admit to being offended because of people like him.What about this?
A serving soldier said: ‘I’ve served on operations with lots of women. I didn’t meet one who was offended by the word “lads”.
'Someone of such a sensitive nature, be they male or female, would not last five minutes.
What about this?
What do you think about banning "mankind" and "sportsmanship"?Those quotes don't seem to discuss the actual details, it's essentially just a soldier saying PC gone mad. I'm sure they aren't hard to find.
What do you think about banning "mankind" and "sportsmanship"?
Well that's weird...Interestingly, “lads” is gender neutral in Ireland. Wouldn’t be unusual to hear a girl address a bunch of female friends using that word.
Those I can understand (job occupations).Seems a bit much, but language has power. In Norway we traditionally referred to occupations differently by gender, so lærer (teacher) and lærerinne (female teacher). I'm sure when someone suggested referring to all teachers as "lærer", some thought it was a bit much too.
Actually, just in January of this year the Norwegian government stopped referring to the heads of the counties (fylke) as fylkesmann, opting for statsforvalter instead (county governor, or state administrator). I know for a fact some people thought that was unnecessary, but it's a small and easy step to make.
Well that's weird...
I like that. I dislike the ubiquitous 'guys' because I generally disapprove of Americanisms and it seems a bit contrived in Britain. Lads would do fine.Interestingly, “lads” is gender neutral in Ireland. Wouldn’t be unusual to hear a girl address a bunch of female friends using that word.
I like that. I dislike the ubiquitous 'guys' because I generally disapprove of Americanisms and it seems a bit contrived in Britain. Lads would do fine.
People say that, but now 'firefighter' is routinely used instead of the old 'fireman', the Caf has banned several words over the years and language evolves over time ad infinitum.Those I can understand (job occupations).
But banning words like mankind and sportsmanship is a bit much surely.
Probably better than calling then cnuts tbf...When I find myself swearing at a woman, I make a point of calling her a dickhead. I feel like it's me playing my part towards gender equality.
No... I don't think I will.You get used to it. Doesn’t feel weird to me. Feel free to get it going across the pond.
Fecking hell it’s getting out of control, racist Cheese now, fecking CHEESE!! I’d love to see how they could spin that. In what possible way is cheese racist?
Seems a bit much, but language has power. In Norway we traditionally referred to occupations differently by gender, so lærer (teacher) and lærerinne (female teacher). I'm sure when someone suggested referring to all teachers as "lærer", some thought it was a bit much too.
Actually, just in January of this year the Norwegian government stopped referring to the heads of the counties (fylke) as fylkesmann, opting for statsforvalter instead (county governor, or state administrator). I know for a fact some people thought that was unnecessary, but it's a small and easy step to make.
Probably something to do with the fact that many from a BAME background are lactose intolerant, so it's probably something about it being problematic to serve in schools or work or something. Or perhaps cheese is simply just racist.
Has anyone suggested not using such a stupid fecking language?
Yeah, I presume it was that story about someone complaining cheese is a mainstay of school dinner menus, but cheese in itself cannot be racist, just what you do with it.Probably something to do with the fact that many from a BAME background are lactose intolerant, so it's probably something about it being problematic to serve in schools or work or something. Or perhaps cheese is simply just racist.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...iry-racist-schools-Brighton-Hove-City-Council
Ms Plaumer had stated: "Arguably, there is a racist element to serving dairy too much because 65 per cent of the world’s population are lactose intolerant, many from the BAME (black, Asian and minority ethnic) community.
"Loads of parents around here give lots of support to this. What do children want? They want action. They want it now."
Her petition requests two plant-based days are introduced at state-run schools as soon as possible – and for all council-run events to be plant-based once the pandemic is over.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...iry-racist-schools-Brighton-Hove-City-Council
Even the score by adding chilli powder to all school meals.
But really, I think this is a case of somebody with a particular axe to grind (in this case Plaumer is from Extinction Rebellion) jumping on a prominent bandwagon (in this case the fight against racism) to try and further their own agenda.
It obviously shouldn't be taken seriously.
Booze has a more legitimate claim to be racist. A lot of South East Asians lack an enzyme that mops up a metabolite of alcohol (aldehyde dehydrogenase) so flush/sweat whenever they drink. I once went on the piss with a bloke from Malaysia who got a clearly demarcated sweat patch on his t-shirt over his liver. Fecking hardcore.
65 per cent of the world’s population are lactose intolerant
Fecking hell it’s getting out of control, racist Cheese now, fecking CHEESE!! I’d love to see how they could spin that. In what possible way is cheese racist?
Probably something to do with the fact that many from a BAME background are lactose intolerant, so it's probably something about it being problematic to serve in schools or work or something. Or perhaps cheese is simply just racist.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...vate-school-disappointed-teachers-expose.html
I haven't seen this before. The list of things banned at this school are ridiculous. It is lower down in the article.
Not allowed to say mom, dad, or parent. Have to say grown-ups, folks, family, or guardians.
Not allowed to say boys, girls, guys, ladies, gentlemen. Have to say people, folks, friends, readers, mathematicians.
Husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend. Banned. Now, spouse, partner, significant other.
Not allowed to talk about a boy or girl on a page in a book. It must be person, child, character.
There are others which are just as bad on there.