Relevant, comrade?
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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Relevant, comrade?
Well either way, the point is that a large number of people think you're a cretin.
So you don't think there's any issues with someone having two names?
No
Does this person dress in male clothes when identifying as Callum and female clothes when identifying as Abi?
If yes then it should be easy enough for everyone they work with to know which name to call them on that day i suppose.
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I can say with certainty that a lot of people feel the same way about you.
I'll meet them in Hull.
I f*cking hate this thread.
That's cause you're a soyboy
I don't even know what that is.
I wouldn't be surprised if retirement was forced on to him, on account of him being a gammon
Do you think there's a problem with people who think it's weird? Also I noticed you picked up on the mental health comment from one member. You do realise there is plenty of evidence of psychological problems behind some of these things?
You can't say this
''cowardly weasels like you who will only do that over a computer''
When you've press the enter button over 7,000 on a internet forum.
I think people who complain about this sort of thing ought to shut up.
Oh yes I'm sure you do...SJWs often take this approach. I guess I'm part of the problem too!
Oh yes I'm sure you do...SJWs often take this approach. I guess I'm part of the problem too!
You did just say SJWs so yeah
And then the telegraph seek him out for a quote so that silly can people lap it up.
It's telling that the poster who originally bought this former police officer up has no comment on his after it was pointed out.
Uh, yes I can.
I'm not criticising posting things over the internet. I'm calling the post in question cowardly because it's easy to insult/throw a jibe at somebody over the internet.
But don't. It makes you look stupid.
Eh.. you have over 9000 posts. We are all guilty of it.
The guy is obviously a nutjob. They shouldn't have quoted him.
I think his point about resources/time/effort being directed towards something like this is relevant, and I also have doubts over whether it's a good thing to normalise the behaviour of someone who changes their gender every day.
Thanks for the advice, I'll be sure to completely ignore it in the future.
That's because like him, you are a bigot. You don't want to admit it, so instead you try to find functional reasons to justify your bigotry.
Well yeah thats why its a stupid insult to use.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
It would be if I had called him a coward because he posts a lot.
I'm a bit uneasy if we are unable to have a genuine debate about issues like this without people getting their knickers in a twist. It's a valid point to make about the practicalities of somebody who's gender is that fluid and what expectations should be placed on their workplace and the people they work with - is it reasonable to expect a work place to support something like that? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't - I don't really have an opinion on it but I think it's fair enough to ask the question.
I get a bit uneasy at the fact that we legitimise bigots by not calling them bigots when they act bigoted.
Throughout history these cnuts always have functional arguments against equality that turn out to be bollocks. We need to stop tolerating them, you wouldn't tolerate a racist would you?
Ah yes, questioning whether somebody who switches their gender every day is mentally stable or whether we should be normalising that as a society is an equivalent to racism.
You've got me good.
That is a big jump you are making. Of course I wouldn't tolerate a racist but I worry that if we start jumping to calling people bigots, racists, whatever, anytime somebody puts forward a point of view that we don't agree with instead of engaging in debate then nobody's mind is going to get changed and everybody is just going to end up angry.
And you do realise there's far more evidence of transgenderism & gender fluidity in dozens of civilisations/cultures/countries dating back thousands of years - therefore, it's far more 'normal' in society and history than it is perceived at present
Also, there's plenty of psychological problems with many things humans do - sleeping too long or too little, eating too much or too little, exercising too hard or too little, working too hard or too little etc therefore using mental health as a reason to be a bigot is not only an insult to mental health, but it's incredibly inaccurate way to try to describe the experience of the very people you're harming too.
You can think something is weird if you want, but it's not anyone's place to cast judgement or insist that they conform to your ideals.
It's not your life.
The policeman in question is quoted "I’ve done it a handful of times since and felt so happy that I got to be me at work." I would argue that, that is far better for their psychological wellbeing.
Bingo. Calling them what they are is a genuine debate.
It's only a debate if you engage in conversation and challenge their views that way - just shouting people down and calling them names isn't going to change anything and certainly is not going to challenge or change their views which if you really cared about it would be your goal.
I gave up on trying to change people's minds on the internet a while ago. Sometimes you just gotta throw away the political correctness, stop worrying about causing offence, and call a spade a spade. I thought that's what this thread was all about right?
I don't really see the "PC gone mad" thread as a way to change anyones minds, especially not people who are already bigots. The only people who might potentially be influenced are people who are undecided and read the thread and realize through simply calling a spade a spade that the views espoused are bigotry.
I'm not interested in debating whether white people naturally have higher iqs or whether being transgender is a mental disorder. Anyone who believes those things is a bigot and should feck themselves.
Madness is far too often in the eye of the beholder and - perhaps the central point in this particular debate - upholds the unsubtle coercion that is societal conformity. In short, frequently the labelling of someone as mentally unsound is yet another way of keeping people in their place, and a warning to those of us who, curiously, want to be considered 'normal'. This is deliberate and insidious.
You know the British state use to prosecute people for homosexual acts(Legalised in 1967) and its only recently that homosexuality has been seen as not a mental illness ?
The idea of labelling people 'mental ill' due to their gender isn't a good one at all.
In which societies historically did people have genders which were interchangeable day by day? And also simply because gender fluidity was practised in different societies, that doesn't mean their societies were better, more stable or more successful than their counterparts, or that these are the societies we should be trying to emulate.
You're comparing sleeping a little too long to changing your entire identity - who you are as a person - on a daily basis. It's a pretty significant jump.
Yes, I'm aware of that. Which doesn't automatically mean that everything identified as a mental illness in the future is suddenly void because the government was wrong about homosexuality.
If somebody who is switching between genders daily (surely this would come under multiple personality disorder?) isn't mentally ill, then what are they?