Has political correctness actually gone mad?

You would think that The Uni of Manchester would avoid this given what their Trans Officer has been alleged to get upto at their desk #jessbradley

Not really sure what you're suggesting here, nor do I understand the relevance of bringing up the actions of an employee in this case.

Can you explain?
 
Not really sure what you're suggesting here, nor do I understand the relevance of bringing up the actions of an employee in this case.

Can you explain?
I mentioned it because they should spend time investigating that matter, that is still outstanding weeks later and is far more of a threat to students welfare than some who may find applause triggering. I'm not going to go into the reason that person was suspended here - if you use the hashtag elsewhere you can find it out.
 
I mentioned it because they should spend time investigating that matter, that is still outstanding weeks later and is far more of a threat to students welfare than some who may find applause triggering. I'm not going to go into the reason that person was suspended here - if you use the hashtag elsewhere you can find it out.

It's crazy, but they are able to investigate both situations independently of each other.

Have you got in touch or been involved in the case with this Jess Bradley person? Signed a petition, sent an email, made a phone call etc? If so, surely you'd have a better idea of where that investigation is.
It sounds like virtue signalling otherwise.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-45729031
This was an interesting read. The lady with issues with clapping didn't think it should be banned.

There are some good points in here.

"She also says it could "breed resentment" if other students start to harbour bad feelings towards autistic people." especially resonates considering some of the mocking responses directed towards the disabled that we've already seen in this thread
 
People will bitterly argue about anything, won't they?
 
So they actually voted to not clap, it wasn't forced upon them?

Isn't that the proper way to exercise their rights? So why does anybody else care?

Because privileged right-wing snowflakes absolutely fecking love to whine about their lives being potentially impacted in insignificant ways.
 
There are some good points in here.

"She also says it could "breed resentment" if other students start to harbour bad feelings towards autistic people." especially resonates considering some of the mocking responses directed towards the disabled that we've already seen in this thread
Wait, having an irrational fear for something in particular is being disabled too?
 
The whole applause being triggering thing had nothing to do with autism when it first started back in 2015. Was basically just about loud noises making NUS feminists anxious.

Kinda seems like they realised it made them look pathetic and are now putting autism up as the major driver. Which rings hollow because I bet if you canvassed autistic student opinions on the matter they'd not want a ban on applause, and would mirror the opinions of the autistic girl in the BBC interview.

Who is they?
 
The whole applause being triggering thing had nothing to do with autism when it first started back in 2015. Was basically just about loud noises making NUS feminists anxious.

Kinda seems like they realised it made them look pathetic and are now putting autism up as the major driver. Which rings hollow because I bet if you canvassed autistic student opinions on the matter they'd not want a ban on applause, and would mirror the opinions of the autistic girl in the BBC interview.

I posted a link to the 2015 incident on page 1 of this thread. All they said was "triggering anxiety" Definitely possible the people feeling anxious were on the autistic spectrum.
 
Autistic students just have too much sense to get into that nonsense.
autism is a spectrum disability that makes people unable to socialise, it is not the narrow disability that a minority of computer engineers have but that is disproportionately represented in media


Especially if we're talking about an NUS womens conference, when autism has an 80/20 male/female split.
even assuming that the underreporting of autism in females barely makes a dent in the the ratio 20% of women having it isn't statistically insignificant
 

It's a wank 'study' and the speed by which it's been gleefully picked up by some is, well, perhaps more indicative of a problem than what the authors found. The authors, and especially the right wing twitter bods who are gleefully sharing it don't seem to understand how peer review works, but yes, congratulations, wank research done in bad faith can get published. I suspect that's true for all and every field, but we don't know, because they didn't have a control, because it's shitty research done (oh irony of ironies) to prove a political point.





But hey, maybe the social experiment here is the hypocrisy of attempts to 'own the libs' by doing exactly what you're accusing them of doing?
 
But hey, maybe the social experiment here is the hypocrisy of attempts to 'own the libs' by doing exactly what you're accusing them of doing?

Wasn't their aim to show the amount of shite that get published? Not like they can write good research and prove the point by that if so.
 
Wasn't their aim to show the amount of shite that get published? Not like they can write good research and prove the point by that if so.

No their aim was a takedown of sub disciplines they don't like using pseudo-academic methods. At least, I kinda hope it was because, if this research is genuinely indicative of how these people conduct research – or think research should be conducted – then well, feck me, it says a lot about them.

I've done a brief check on the authors, none of whom seem to have any publication history or university affiliation, although Helen Pluckrose's academia.edu page is accessible and she publishes in a related field to mine. If the papers listed there weren't crafted for the study then I suspect she just is not a very good researcher.

If you wanted to demonstrate that a load of shite gets published (a problem that is probably genuine in every single academic discipline, especially in the niche journals that they got published in despite their bogus claims that they were all 'leading'), then there are ways to do it that don't make your findings absolutely meaningless.

Again, all this shows to me, really, is that these three don't understand what peer review is.
 
No their aim was a takedown of sub disciplines they don't like using pseudo-academic methods. At least, I kinda hope it was because, if this research is genuinely indicative of how these people conduct research – or think research should be conducted – then well, feck me, it says a lot about them.

I've done a brief check on the authors, none of whom seem to have any publication history or university affiliation, although Helen Pluckrose's academia.edu page is accessible and she publishes in a related field to mine. If the papers listed there weren't crafted for the study then I suspect she just is not a very good researcher.

If you wanted to demonstrate that a load of shite gets published
(a problem that is probably genuine in every single academic discipline, especially in the niche journals that they got published in despite their bogus claims that they were all 'leading'), then there are ways to do it that don't make your findings absolutely meaningless.

Again, all this shows to me, really, is that these three don't understand what peer review is.

That definitely seems to be their intention. Specifically that a load of shite gets published, providing it fits in with a prevailing orthodoxy. But yeah, they really missed a trick by not providing any controls. Seems obvious that they should have also tried to get an identical number of misogynist, uber-conservative articles published at the same time. Otherwise they're using bad science to expose bad science.
 
Problem with fields of study in general is that there's too many of em imho. People do research into topic so irrelevant it's beyond me anyone is even paying em for it.
 
Problem with fields of study in general is that there's too many of em imho. People do research into topic so irrelevant it's beyond me anyone is even paying em for it.
Meanwhile excellent scientists engaged in genuine medical research are having to spend 50% of their time trying to get funding for their projects. It's an unfair world.
 
They should keep Maslow's pyramid in mind when deciding what to give research grants to.

Fix basic human needs and go from there,
 
Wasn't their aim to show the amount of shite that get published?
They’re calling it an expose of left wing academics because they’re getting a load of left-leaning drivel published (peer reviewed by academics)
these are different things, if your aim is to show how stupid left wing academics are you do an academic review of their stupid ideas

if your aim is to prove that journals accept fraudulent research then yeah, no shit, there are already experiments showing the same thing, this isn't a ground breaking expose
 
Problem with fields of study in general is that there's too many of em imho. People do research into topic so irrelevant it's beyond me anyone is even paying em for it.

Probably a good job you aren't in charge of funding then.

If we had stopped funding of basic research, based on your ill-informed opinions, we would have an iron lung that was solar powered but we would have no polio vaccine.