I read this through twice wondering what the hell it had to do with faggots. And then realised it was me that had gone on a tangent, not you.
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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That's likely because the entire thrust of the PC movement is for groups and individuals to gain power by staking out a position of vilifying something. Its basically using morality as a device to wield power over another group.
What exactly is 'the PC movement'? Seeing as we are now painting them as the bad guys... I say we but I mean you guys.
usually a handful of people on twitter who are never heard from again
Sounds more like extremists then doesn't it?
not really, they're innocuous if stupid tweets that are then highlighted by blogs/right wing new sites at which point a handful of people start sending them death threats or death threats and rape threats if they're women and they're run off the internet
Apparently we should rename female body parts, as they were all named by the men who discovered them.
Your licence fee pays for this rubbish:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180531-how-womens-body-parts-have-been-named-after-men
Your licence fee pays for this rubbish:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180531-how-womens-body-parts-have-been-named-after-men
I don't know if they are bad guys - but as i said, its simply groups attempting to wield power - either verbally or otherwise - around a particular issue that they deem to be offensive.
sounds reasonable tbh
Perhaps we can also just keep the old names, just for reference and so people who studied medicine don't have to retake courses.
Also, I doubt I will ever meet anyone who actually cares about this.
I just assumed you meant anyone who espouses PC views so wondered why you were being disingenuous, but @Silva has highlighted the distinction that I would have made while pointing out that most are just mouth pieces. I think a more descriptive term would be better tbh....
I suggested extremists as we're talking about the fringe but I'm sure there's something better.
Probably not irl, but on the internet this a travesty! For some it seems....
@11101 seems to
I don't think the fringe/extremist angle is appropriate here. Its simply groups seeking power by fighting to have their version of social norms included in the mainstream and other groups seeking to retain the existing power structure. You can pick and choose any conceivable issue within that framework.
Trump is political correctness?
I doubt it too, but that article somehow made its way to the headline of the BBC website.
In the same way groups attempt to wield power by using terms such as 'the PC movement' to describe opinions they disagree with.
There's no attempt to wield power in saying it exists, just as there isn't in saying socialism or post-modernism exist. Its simply describing a well known movement that has been broadly accepted as a social phenomena from (primarily) the 80s until the present.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness
Examples of groups please? For all I know you're talking about LGBT or BLM, in which case I'll stick to claiming its the fringe elements of those groups. I don't like broad brush stroke generalisation...
Unless when you say:
You just mean trying to highlight fcukery or affect the change they would like to see. In which case as you were, and more power to them... But, it doesn't seem like that's what you meant does it?
It's so that peeps like yourself can feel outraged and give them hits I guess.
So did "Have you been saying these pop star's names right?" and "Man Utd sign Dalot for £19m". The BBC has to appeal to people of all backgrounds
Choose any group you like that has a grievance against a perceived historical imbalance
So, like I assumed, you were just making an incorrect generalisation to make a point.
Straight white men who think their free speech has been taken from them.
Not sure I follow. What was incorrect ?
The old "I don't know what you mean". Ironic considering how you lost your shit when I made a joking generalisation about Americans. It seems you aren't even joking....
A better way to look at it as those without power seeking more power.
Yes, I think it is.
I think this just comes down to my inability to understand why people give more of a feck about changing the name of pork faggots than they appear to care about... other shit. All the other shit I would moan about. Global poverty, Western bigotry, climate change etc... they are increasingly ruining this fecking world and half the people I agree with about all of these things talk more about freedom of speech than they do about any of that. As if it matters more that we have open and honest discourse as we kill ourselves than battling the mindsets that are causing it.
I quite like this one.
It doesn’t sound reasonable at all. It sounds absurdly petty. Thankfully, as is often the case in this thread, I suspect this is just one eejit with sand in her vagina about something completely trivial rather than any kind of meaningful movement.
Nice.
I'm prone to tangent ranting, to be fairI'm not even sure its that. It seems more just a form of attention seeking or mild narcicism at times. People do it to be looked at and approved of by others. The reasoning behind the actual cause, if there ever was one, kind of becomes lost...and you end up at a point for example where it retrospectively becomes racist to have called Raheem Sterling a failure two years ago, just after England failed to beat Iceland, because someone will decide you actually called him a failure due to him being black.
can you explain why giving things descriptive names is petty without resorting to insulting people?
Because these things already have names, widely in use for centuries. And the rationale for changing those names is ridiculous. Using that logic, why stop at anatomy? Surely eponyms that are widespread in every field of science “perpetuate the notion that advances are made by one individual – rather than the long collaborative process central to the process of scientific discovery” What about Volts? Ohms? Watts? Braille? etc. etc. etc.
yeah they're just words feel free to lead the charge
Sorry. Was just too topical not to use it!
I’ll pass, thanks. I’ll also reserve the right to call someone an eejit who thinks they all need to be re-named for the reason outlined above.
pogue circa a couple hundred years ago
it was called wanadoo for a decade why change it now etc. etc.
I read that article and thought it was good, to be honest.
It's a very good series overall if you read the other articles, especially about women being more likely to be diagnosed later and be ignored by doctors, probably because they have sand in the vagina or something.