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Is it really a good idea having him and lindelof play a high line together ?
I get that Maguire will complement Victor's weakness in the air, and that he's good playing from the back - but they're both pretty slow, and we're not that dominant in possesion. We will be murdered on the counter.....
 
2 man midfield said:
I sort of want us to sign him so I can finally find out whether he’s shit or not.
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He's definitely not terrible. He's strong in the air, reasonably good on the ball and a solid defender overall. He's... fine.

His lack of pace means he's probably best suited to being paired with Smalling/Bailly in a counterattacking side.
 
I'd be happy about signing Maguire. He solves a few issues we need to have resolved. Aerial dominance in defence and a threat in attack. And an attacker who is able to play out from the back. He also seems like more of a leader of a back four than any we have on our team.

I am not too worried about him being partnered with Lindelof either. I see the latter being branded as slow on here, but I don't really think he is. He has struggled early on in his career with us, but I don't think that has to do with his pace as such. More about his positioning and decision making, and perhaps getting accustomed to the general tempo of play in the PL. This last year I think he has looked good, and sufficiently fast too.

When it comes to the price being reported for Maguire, I don't really care that much. Getting an upgrade in at CB is a priority this summer, and I am OK with us spending a lot there. I also think our business will be concluded with him and one midfielder (Longstaff perhaps) and I'd be fairly happy with our summer dealings if that is the case. That is if Lukaku, Pogba and De Gea stay on.
 
w1thout said:
Is it really a good idea having him and lindelof play a high line together ?
I get that Maguire will complement Victor's weakness in the air, and that he's good playing from the back - but they're both pretty slow, and we're not that dominant in possesion. We will be murdered on the counter.....
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Well are we even intending to play a high line? We didn't play it last season.
 
Gandalf said:
Don't know enough about Romagnoli, would he really be cheaper than Maguire? Skriniar is a complete non-starter, he is not just settled, he is playing for the club he has supported his whole life and is adamant about not moving, I doubt he would go to Real let alone us.
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Wow Inter have hit the jackpot with Skriniar if that's the case. One position locked down for years if what you say is true. Young quality player, with lots of potential and loyal. Without even being Italian. Sucks for us though.

Anyways, I think as rich as Milan's new owners are, they would let go of Romagnoli for about 60/70m so as to strengthen other areas of their squad within FFP. I fear it's Romagnoli that might decline us due to a preference to remain in Italy.

All roads lead to Maguire.
 
w1thout said:
Is it really a good idea having him and lindelof play a high line together ?
I get that Maguire will complement Victor's weakness in the air, and that he's good playing from the back - but they're both pretty slow, and we're not that dominant in possesion. We will be murdered on the counter.....
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Wan-Bissaka and Shaw are both speedmonsters, I have 0 concerns about the pace of our defense even if someone passes Maguire.
 
w1thout said:
Is it really a good idea having him and lindelof play a high line together ?
I get that Maguire will complement Victor's weakness in the air, and that he's good playing from the back - but they're both pretty slow, and we're not that dominant in possesion. We will be murdered on the counter.....
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I assume that Lindelof would become Maguire's backup in a CB partnership with Smalling.
 
w1thout said:
Is it really a good idea having him and lindelof play a high line together ?
I get that Maguire will complement Victor's weakness in the air, and that he's good playing from the back - but they're both pretty slow, and we're not that dominant in possesion. We will be murdered on the counter.....
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This. Maguire would be a disastrous signing, all things considered. But we are experts at shite signings so consider this a done deal.
 
Only 26 and has looked great playing on the biggest stage for England. Bags of prem experience, and a threat from set pieces which we have not had for years.... Although that's also a delivery issue...
 
Tom Cato said:
Smalling is the backup, Lindelöf is our best CB currently.
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I don't think Lindelof would be a particularly good fit with Maguire, though, unless we play with a very low block.

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It's a back 5 that would be pretty low on technical quality, but solid defensively and good at dealing with physicality/aerial balls etc

Not my first choice, but does fit with Solskjaer's counterattacking approach.
 
We’ve clearly needed someone to organise our back line since Rio and Vidic moved on, but is Maguire that player? Is he likely to have the VVD kind of impact and does he have the strength of character to lead that defence into becoming an effective unit? If he ticks all those boxes then IMO in today’s market he’s worth a VVD like fee.
 
Old Ma Crow said:
We’ve clearly needed someone to organise our back line since Rio and Vidic moved on, but is Maguire that player? Is he likely to have the VVD kind of impact and does he have the strength of character to lead that defence into becoming an effective unit? If he ticks all those boxes then IMO in today’s market he’s worth a VVD like fee.
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VVD arguably the most extreme impact of any defender ever so maybe not the barometer
 
Be very happy it we sign Maguire. As I said before, he's very comfortable on the ball and would really improve our build up play.

70M is a very good offer and I'm surprised Leicester haven't accepted. Maybe 75-80?
 
UpWithRivers said:
Leicester should take 50 + Rojo. Spend 40 on Tielmans and have 10 for a championship prospect and be a much better team.
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Why on earth would they take that? We've already offered them 70m and will almost certainly offer more. They're trying to do better, not worse.
 
Skills said:
Well are we even intending to play a high line? We didn't play it last season.
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If ole wants to press then you have to play a high line. From everything he’s said so far I’d say we’re aiming for that, but we need to train for it.
 
70M for Maguire.. ridiculous.. Anyway, I don’t think he’s as good on the ball as is made out, but he reads the game well and is a calming influence. Reminds a tad of Gary Pallister. Overall he’d improve us, but 70M...
 
Crashoutcassius said:
not sure why people think we will play a high line
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There had been some talk of playing a high-energy pressing game next season, which of course necessitates a high line. Obviously that hasn't at all been reflected in our activity in the market this summer - it does look like speedy counter-attacking will be the primary strategy.
 
We're mad, but if it's less money for the Glazers then I don't care what he costs, tbh I've never seen the fuss with Maguire though.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
not sure why people think we will play a high line
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If we sign Maguire it's almost definite we won't. He looks suspect with space behind him but plays well when everything's in front and he can pick passes.

He's got quality and would improve our ability to play out from the back but the figures going around are nuts.
 
Infra-red said:
I don't think Lindelof would be a particularly good fit with Maguire, though, unless we play with a very low block.

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It's a back 5 that would be pretty low on technical quality, but solid defensively and good at dealing with physicality/aerial balls etc

Not my first choice, but does fit with Solskjaer's counterattacking approach.
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If Ole gets his squad right the approach next season will be to build the play from the back and play a speedful passing game. Maguire is great with the ball and fits that mold exactly. I think that Lindelöf will surprise a lot of people. In my opinion I just don't think Smalling is good enough for our back 4, but maybe my assumptions are incorrect
 
I have a problem with his lack of pace and yeah, his big head.. There.. I’ve said it.
 
Why does signing Alderweireld mean we have to give him stupid wages?

With Spurs wage structure he has to be one maybe £100k a week. We could simply double that with ease.

I like Maguire but if Leicester won’t sell at £70m we should walk away. He isn’t that good of a defender. Leicester concede so many goals with him as a CB.
 
Fox outside the box said:
Another very good point. Especially with defenders as well, the patience just isn't there. I remember having many an argument regarding Ronaldo. Around Euro 2006? An awful lot of people wanting him to be sold because he was frustrating, a one trick pony (that particular phrase was thrown at me ALOT), wasn't consistent and had no end product.

I'll admit, I'm biased when it comes to technical or flair players because they're a huge reason I watch the sport. So I will tend to stick by players for longer than might be sensible if they are the sort that will try to regularly beat a man and be skillful.

But it's even worse these days, a couple of bad games and you'll be abused on twitter and called out in forums all over the place. Fans honestly talk so much shit and if I were a player, I would almost definitely want to take steps up to a bigger club than just jump in.
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I'm very similar. I find it amazing that people want us to buy these rough diamonds but yet have no patience to see them develop. Everyone has to hit the ground running. When that doesn't happen they are written off and needed to be sold for the greener grass on the other side.
 
If we don't sign him, whatever the price, our manager should ruin our season in protest. It's the most mature thing to do, and I for one will side with him vigorously.
 
DixieDean said:
OMG, I just saw this news. WoodWard really is the biggest clown in football :wenger:
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Woodward? I think it's our manager who wants this.

Its funny, Woodward's a clown if he doesn't spunk money on the players our manager wants. He's a clown if he does decide to back him. Can't win.
 
Skills said:
Woodward? I think it's our manager who wants this.

Its funny, Woodward's a clown if he doesn't spunk money on the players our manager wants. He's a clown if he does decide to back him. Can't win.
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Both of them are clowns if they think he is worth near £70 million.

No skin off my nose, but good Lord your football club needs a DOF.
 
£70 million is damned serious money for a defender, VVD notwithstanding. I read elsewhere that Leicester want in the region of £90 million which is ludicrous.
 
Undecided on this one.

The squad is bloated with CB’s and having sorted the RB position out I think other areas are more of a priority.

70 million would be the absolute maximum United should go to, being a first bid you’d expect a second bid to follow.

I’d just start adding the deadwood to the deal rather than increase the cash offer.
 
Moonwalker said:
If we don't sign him, whatever the price, our manager should ruin our season in protest. It's the most mature thing to do, and I for one will side with him vigorously.
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I’m with you. I think we will go back in again, would not surprise me if we are still haggling for a deal at this very moment. Ole wants him on the plane to Oz I suspect. That goes on Sunday.
 
Skills said:
Woodward? I think it's our manager who wants this.

Its funny, Woodward's a clown if he doesn't spunk money on the players our manager wants. He's a clown if he does decide to back him. Can't win.
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Damned if he does; damned if he doesnt.

Harry Maguire is not worth 90 million though.
 
RuudTom83 said:
Undecided on this one.

The squad is bloated with CB’s and having sorted the RB position out I think other areas are more of a priority.

70 million would be the absolute maximum United should go to, being a first bid you’d expect a second bid to follow.

I’d just start adding the deadwood to the deal rather than increase the cash offer.
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Leicester can't afford the wages of the players we'd be sending them. Secondly, the players you probably have in your mind as deadwood (i.e. Jones, Young & maybe Smalling) are very much part of Ole's English core that he's building.
 
Skills said:
Leicester can't afford the wages of the players we'd be sending them. Secondly, the players you probably have in your mind as deadwood (i.e. Jones, Young & maybe Smalling) are very much part of Ole's English core that he's building.
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Not deadwood, but we could possibly offer Tuanzebe on a year long loan as a sweetener. They could afford him and it would help his development for us. Just don’t charge them a loan fee, but they still pay his wages.
 
Hugh Jass said:
Damned if he does; damned if he doesnt.

Harry Maguire is not worth 90 million though.
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If he doesn't sign him, there's again going to be toxic chaos in our fanbase.

If I was Woodward, I'd probably do it just to avoid the aggro. Then publicly announce, that we've fully backed the manager this summer (bought him the players he wants irrespective of the cost if they were available) & due to the amount we've had to spend we'll probably spend less in the next season(s).

Wash your hands of the problem, so when it inevitably does go tits up next season we clearly know who's accountable.
 
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