It would be complete ignorance from Ed Woodward - so could see it being true.
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Thought he looked quite good in the nations league game. Decent amount of pace as well.
Skriniar is not more achievable. We have better chance getting Maguire. Inter has no interest selling him, they don’t even accept him as part of the swap deal with Lukaku.
Koulibaly is £130m
Diop is not for sale, they don’t want Jones & Rojo and probably £60m minimum.
Toby is old & high wages
Even as a starting point for negotiations that doesn't make sense. It's no wonder our negotiations take so long. What sensible person would think they'd sell for 40m?
An accountant disguised as a director of football.
We're after a ball-playing centre half like Koulibaly, de ligt or Maguire. Somebody who's technically good by CB standards. Diop doesn't fit that description. He's a stopper. His passing stats are more like smalling's.
Southgate clearly feels Maguire is better than Smalling, is the only comparison I can make. £80m better is a fair question though?
No sensible person truly believes all the rubbish that has been written
Has anyone from the PL made any worthwhile signings yet?
I'm not sure there's another premier league team who's so far from their reasonable expectations as we are. We could slip out of the top pack if we aren't careful.
Hang on... is this the same Maguire that Woodward vetoed literally last Summer when Mourinho wanted him!?
Of so... erm... wow. Woodward is kinda out of control surely?
Not that I don't Harry - but why veto him last Summer and essentially ruin our season, and the relationship with Mourinho?
Of so... erm... wow. Woodward is kinda out of control surely?
Not that I don't Harry - but why veto him last Summer and essentially ruin our season, and the relationship with Mourinho?
Lindelof will still be the left centre back if we sign him? I have heard a theory (that I can back up with no solid proof) that his passing is better when he's the right centre back.
If nothing else a partnership of Smalling and Maguire would make us a bit better at defending set pieces, or a partnership of Maguire and Lindelof would make us better at bringing the ball out from the back. Not super convinced that either partnership would be world class but it's an improvement I guess.
If nothing else a partnership of Smalling and Maguire would make us a bit better at defending set pieces, or a partnership of Maguire and Lindelof would make us better at bringing the ball out from the back. Not super convinced that either partnership would be world class but it's an improvement I guess.
He pushed for Alderweireld. Maguire was always a second or third option IIRC
I don't get why we still haven't got our new CB signed up. Whoever it is, I don't care at this point. So what if Maguire is our 3rd, 4th choice? What I want to know is why it took us until June to realise Koulibaly wasn't for sale. We should've known that before the window even opened. Surely you're not meant to sound players out when the window opens? That's when the deals get confirmed, not started. Our season has been over since April, why didn't we do this then? In theory we should have Maguire wrapped up by now, even if he is our 3rd choice.
"Some"
My point is Skriniar shouldn’t be on the list.
We haven't been in the top pack for a good 5 years now. The sooner you accept that we won't be winning the league for decades the less frustrated you'd be watching us.
It's fine to have him there, because he said "some" of these players.
We came second last season.
I'm all for signing Maguire should we not sign De ligt. Maguire would be great in the league for us, scoring headers and generally being a lump at the back which we haven't had for a while.
However against some clubs, especially in europe, he would get embarrassed.
Beggars cant be choosers I guess.
However against some clubs, especially in europe, he would get embarrassed.
Beggars cant be choosers I guess.
He is an Upgrade no matter how you look at it. He's far better than Rojo, Bailly and Jones.
I would also say he's better than Lindelof. So if he came he would be the best one we got - an Upgrade.
We need better players, no matter how you look at it. Some say we should pair Lindelof With a world class CB. Well there arent many around. And if we should pair someone With a world class CB, it should be Maguire + world class CB
I would also say he's better than Lindelof. So if he came he would be the best one we got - an Upgrade.
We need better players, no matter how you look at it. Some say we should pair Lindelof With a world class CB. Well there arent many around. And if we should pair someone With a world class CB, it should be Maguire + world class CB
He would be our best CB I have no doubt in my mind. The only issue I see with this signing is that his lack of pace will be a bigger factor especially when paired with Lindelof. It would restrict us from playing a high line or it will make us vulnerable to the speedsters in the league.
Personally I just wish we'd go to Leverkusen and see if we can sign Jonathan Tah who looks the best fit to me. Tah looks the closest CB in terms of having a VVD effect I've seen in Europe.
Personally I just wish we'd go to Leverkusen and see if we can sign Jonathan Tah who looks the best fit to me. Tah looks the closest CB in terms of having a VVD effect I've seen in Europe.
This.
And let's not use John Terry as an example -- different era and dominant playing style have changed.
Tah is not good enough mate. I've seen him play a couple of times. He makes a lot of mistakes and isnt intelligent enough to be a world class CB.
We should be looking at Dayot Upamecano. That boy is rapid. Would cost a bomb though.
I think you're being very harsh, especially if you've only seen him play a couple of times. Van Dyke had issues at 23 and so did Koulibaly at a similar age. And it seems under the guidance of Bosz he's coming off a good season and has shown consistency.
Right, that certainly rules Maguire out of that category as well. June 19the and we have signed a reserve winger!
The problem with the club is not Ole or Mourino or Woodward its those Glaziers and their vulture fund activities .
Time the fan base started making life really uncomfortable for them .
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It's a myth that Maguire is that good at passing and carrying the ball. He's a donkey.
Lolz
This is blatantly untrue.
He is not worth 80 million, doesn't mean he isn't good on the ball and overrated.
Good grief, the state of over reaction across this form is hilarious,"decades"!
Did you think we would have never challenged for the title in the six years post Sir Alex?
I think I agree with this, he's not a donkey but he's never an £80m elite defender, I'd be a bit miffed paying £35-£40m for him.
What you mean to say is.......Maguire looks odd while passing and carrying the ball not he isn't that good, which he is but not worth 80 mil.
Donkey was probably a strong word, but the way we describe some of our own players makes me wonder. If there are 'stats' that prove he is significantly better than what we have, then fair enough, but of course stats are often misleading and can be manipulated to suit arguments. For example, Maguire plays three times as many long balls as Smalling & Lindelof, which is true. We criticise Smalling for lumping every week.
We are buying more of the same, if there is a quality boost it is minimal and not worth an £80m investment. It's crazy to think anyone is on board with this deal IMO, but whatever I guess.
If we even bought him for £45m I wouldn't be surprised if he actually failed to displace Smalling & Lindelof for a while. He would probably only replace Smalling eventually as he's nearing his 30's which we all know is the end of your career as a footballer...
We are buying more of the same, if there is a quality boost it is minimal and not worth an £80m investment. It's crazy to think anyone is on board with this deal IMO, but whatever I guess.
If we even bought him for £45m I wouldn't be surprised if he actually failed to displace Smalling & Lindelof for a while. He would probably only replace Smalling eventually as he's nearing his 30's which we all know is the end of your career as a footballer...
I don't think you'll find anyone on here who think he's worth 80m, but that wasn't your original point.
How many long passes are successful for the three of them @Havak?
Stats without context are just waffle.
Playing long passes doesn't mean only lumping the ball. The below pass is also a long pass.
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