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I don't think they would. They sold Keane for around that 2 years ago and Tawkowski has done just as well.You don't think Burnley would sell Tarkowski for £30m? I think you're right on Ake. Dunk is probably somewhere between £35-40m
What a load of rubbish. You make it seem like those are the only two things a CB does and by the way many on that list can do the same thing.Is it difficult to work out if we're signing Maguire?
Aerial ability, can bring the ball out of defence. Plus the fact that he's proven in the Prem and won't have to adapt will have been seen as a huge positive.
Solskjaer - 10th July 2019 “But we're patient, we're Man United, we don't have to sell and don't have to overpay either. You have to have the right players at the right price".
Solskjaer - 14th July 2019 "80m fee agreed for Harry Maguire".
We're paying more for Maguire than was paid for Van Dijk, Militao, De Ligt, Lucas Hernandez. Even more than what was paid for guys like Rodri, N'Dombele, Tielemans and de Jong, all of which would've improved our team massively.
As much as I love Solskjaer, he just doesn't come across as a "tough manager" and we'll continue to play Young, Matic, Lingard, etc. even if they do perform poorly.
unless he only have 2 years on his contract not a chanceYou don't think Burnley would sell Tarkowski for £30m? I think you're right on Ake. Dunk is probably somewhere between £35-40m
VVD was 75 +15 add ons
Harry is 60 + 20 add ons
So logic tells you that Harry is world record for defender, well done English media.
Why is that unfortunate for me? I’ve not actually said I didn’t want him or that he was a bad player.Try watching him play.
Unfortunately for you, it looks like he'll be doing it in a United shirt next season.
For what it's worth, he's won player of the year at his 3 previous clubs in 2011-12, 2012-13, 2013-14, 2016-17 and 2017-18.
$250M?£150m ?
He's not miles better. He will be found out pretty quickly.If true, 60m upfront is a great deal.
English tax
Still youngish (26)
From a Premiership team and proven in the league.
Forget the fact that he’s miles better than any of our other centrebacks, including Lindelof. He’ll come in and be a leader, bring the ball from the back and put his square head on literally any arial ball that comes his way at either end of the pitch.
Yeah because City never spend feckloads on average defenders.So less than a year ago United refused to give Mourinho £65m to sign Maguire. Now they're giving more than that to Solskjaer in order to get him. He wasn't even Leicester's best defender last season and considering the centre-backs you could have gotten instead - probably for slightly less money - this strikes me as an increasingly odd choice. He's a solid second choice for a team with United's ambitions, and I think if we'd picked him up to replace Kompany as a reserve option I'd be pleased, but is this the guy United want to spend tonnes of money on to start their resurgence?
Ok.
Do you have to be a patronising wanker about it? The point about his application is still relevant regardless. Everyone knew Liverpool had paid over the odds at the time, the only one revising history here is you.
Am I, or am I suggesting the attributes which Ole has clearly prioritised when searching for a new centre back?What a load of rubbish. You make it seem like those are the only two things a CB does and by the way many on that list can do the same thing.
When does Jones play in front of him? Smalling's played the most and been our most reliable CB since Vidic/Rio. The only place Jones plays before him is England and Jones isn't a starter there plus that's due to the England manager not liking him whereas numerous Man Utd managers do.Smalling....Jones plays in front of him if he's not injured, that's how bad Smalling is. Harry is significantly better than both and the problem is VVD fee as created a problem where people are comparing that fee then and not what VVD is worth now. If Liverpool were to sell him now, he cost 40m more than they paid for him or in principle the fee for Harry is about right in today's market.
This just reeks of someone who plays FM. Half of these don't even meet the same attributes as Maguire.
Who?He wasn't even Leicester's best defender last season and considering the centre-backs you could have gotten instead - probably for slightly less money - this strikes me as an increasingly odd choice.
Will be interesting if we find out what triggers the £20m worth in add-ons.
£60m by itself isn't as bad as I'd feared, and if we only end up paying the £80m after winning some things then nobody will be that arsed about the added cost if it does some to fruition.
Again people struggling with understanding, “wouldn’t have been my first choice” key word “my” so when asked what were the 7 I (again a key word there) would have preferred I provided a sample of people I’ve seen on and off over the last 2-3 years.De Ligt doesn't want to come, it seems like Alderweireld doesn't either
Koulibaly, Militao and Marquinhos are not available
Konate and Upamecano are not for sale
Maguire is better than the rest.
You should maybe try reading the original question which prompted the list before getting involved then and trying to act the big man with a snide comment.Am I, or am I suggesting the attributes which Ole has clearly prioritised when searching for a new centre back?
This is a pointless discussion as your list doesn't even account for whether players are available.
Who?
I don't think they would. They sold Keane for around that 2 years ago and Tawkowski has done just as well.
So less than a year ago United refused to give Mourinho £65m to sign Maguire. Now they're giving more than that to Solskjaer in order to get him. He wasn't even Leicester's best defender last season and considering the centre-backs you could have gotten instead - probably for slightly less money - this strikes me as an increasingly odd choice. He's a solid second choice for a team with United's ambitions, and I think if we'd picked him up to replace Kompany as a reserve option I'd be pleased, but is this the guy United want to spend tonnes of money on to start their resurgence?
Ok.
but they aren't English so we must over rated them. Here's the thing that many people don't seem to get. With Maguire we have a player who will likely want to stay at United for as long as he possibly can. With that list many of them may see United as a stepping stone before getting their dream move to Barca or Real Madrid...
Insane fee, but I don't think we could have got someone better at this time.
He should improve us instantly.
AWB-Lindelof-Maguire-Shaw is a very strong and relatively young defense.
Tarkowski is a current England player mate. I agree Keane was maybe hyped slightly more but the market has gone insane from even 2 years ago.Keane was younger though and I think an England international (I could be wrong on that). I also think that, while Tarkowski has done well, Keane was hyped a lot more at the time than Tarkowski is.
if we pay €90m that means all the add-ons have been met, in which case we probably won titles and have Maguire hit several milestones.90 mil euros for Harry Maguire? . Madness. We overpayed at least double for him.
If this is true, of course
Like Jones, except he might be really good.Like Jones for example? Well then we're blessed.
£80m for Phil Jones with a corner gimmick that everyone worked out last summer.