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2023-24 Performances


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6.0 Season Average Rating
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31
Clean sheets
6
Goals
4
Assists
2
Yellow cards
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but he obviously does have the mentality. To come back from being an absolute meme, with all the fans slating him and put in the strong performances he has done this season is something to be commended.
I've always wondered why the comeback counts towards his mental toughness and the fact that he became a meme in the first place on the back of him consistently crumbling under any sorts of pressure doesn't. He does deserve the credit for doing what he does now but I wouldn't say that he has an exemplary mentality after what I've seen of him previously.

To be perfectly clear I'm not responding to just your post, it's more or less of a general consensus here that I don't fully agree with.
 
Interesting video, would like to see one around McTominay and see how often he stays in the 'passing shadow'.

I like Scott but as sub/3rd choice for multiple positions

However there was a point last night, before Newcastles freekick where Mainoo was marking/tracking Joelinton. Just behind Mainoo was Newcastles Bruno and Scott.

Mainoo was basically inches away from Joelinton and tracking him like a shadow.

Bruno was to the left of Scott and the ref was to the right of Scot. Distance of about 3 foot for both from Scott.

As play moved Mainoo got closer to JoeLinton.

Scott got closer to the ref.
 
Interesting video, would like to see one around McTominay and see how often he stays in the 'passing shadow'.

Yeah it's not only him we have few ghosts in the team. Then we have players who show for the ball only to give it away. Ten Hag needs quite a few more transfer windows to implement his vision on the team, I don't think he'll get there and we'll go back to changing the Manager and rebuilding once more....
 
Are you going to prove otherwise or just throw that statement out there?

I'm willing to bet there are countless examples of him doing this every game.
And every other CB. There's one single clip of Todibo 'doing the right thing'. Show me the full match clips of Lascelles being flawless in the same scenarios and you might have a point.

Not sure how it will be a bigger issue than the midfield but I'd still like to hear it.
 
He is being praised for pretty average gamed quite often, what he does well is defend low, but any time he gets high up the pitch he is slow and makes a mistake or conceedes a yellow card/free kick. And as video shows, he is definitely not the way forward with posession either.

Just because he is playing better than he did before, doesn't make him brilliant, standards some people here set are ridiculously low.
 
Thought he was decent for you yesterday, but it's the ideal game for him. Players like Maguire look great when it's all last-ditch blocks and backs to the wall. It's when your team is playing further up the pitch that you notice their defects.
 
Really nice to see his redemption arc, still not a fan of his style but he has to be commended on his performances this season.
 
We’ve come full circle under ETH.

Maguire and McTomminay are in the team and we are losing every other game.

Deja vu anyone
 
We’ve come full circle under ETH.

Maguire and McTomminay are in the team and we are losing every other game.

Deja vu anyone
MAguire still cannot pass the ball and actively hides from it. He is a major limit on our ability to play out from the back
 
Gotta be impressed with the swedish rumble analysis. As if they got a clue of how we are trying to play.
 
MAguire still cannot pass the ball and actively hides from it. He is a major limit on our ability to play out from the back
He’s shyt at defending as well. We concede chances for fun when he plays.

Not buying this turn around from him.
 
Really nice to see his redemption arc, still not a fan of his style but he has to be commended on his performances this season.

Don't think his performances have actually been anything amazing, but he looks like he gives a feck and is putting effort in. That's more than can be said about plenty of others.
 
MAguire still cannot pass the ball and actively hides from it. He is a major limit on our ability to play out from the back

It's one of those cases where stats clearly cannot paint the full picture. His passing is fairly accurate both long and short. However, the speed of the passes are so slow, weak and lofty that it makes it impossible to build play.

It's actually interesting to see Amrabat pass the ball because he puts a real whip on both long and short passing. It makes for such a difference to get us out of our own half and progress play. Unfortunately, he struggles with his movement.
 
What amazes me if that we've come full circle back to the low block defence with Harry. Just that it's a shittier version of what we did 3 years ago.

Progress.
 
Ten Hag has maneuvered himself into a corner by making Maguire a permanent starter again. Maguire does what he always has done, trying his best and looking pretty decent when we are pinned back and just need to get the ball out of the box. In case he benched him from now on a lot of people would go "this is unfair, he was one of their best players and one of the few who cared etc.".
 
I thought he was good last night but watching this changed my mind.


He's fine if you want to sit deep and abandon any attempts at modern proactive football, which we've done since losing Martinez.

Asking him to play out the back under pressure is a recipe for disaster. He's not a quick ball player. Needs multiple touches and time to distribute the ball which the decent sides don't give you.
 
I thought he was good last night but watching this changed my mind.


He’s been good at clearing balls but not for the way we want to play. We had some movement patterns introduced since ETH joined, which we used to play out of press. Those are unfortunately gone since Maguire came back.
 
I totally think it's Maguire that is preventing us from playing out from the back and not the fact that we have practically no midfield...
 
He's fine if you want to sit deep and abandon any attempts at modern proactive football, which we've done since losing Martinez.

Asking him to play out the back under pressure is a recipe for disaster. He's not a quick ball player. Needs multiple touches and time to distribute the ball which the decent sides don't give you.
We're playing a higher line than last season, which was one of the deepest in the league.
 
I totally think it's Maguire that is preventing us from playing out from the back and not the fact that we have practically no midfield...
doesnt have to be one or the other. In fact i say it is pretty obvious that it is both right now. Our backline cant play out with confidence, and the midfield is nonexistent as well. Overall just a fecking joke and the reason ive lost most of my faith in EtH.
 
One of the only players in this team I have any measure of respect for. I still think he's not good enough to be part of the long-term plan, but at least he has the right attitude.
 
I totally think it's Maguire that is preventing us from playing out from the back and not the fact that we have practically no midfield...
Swap Maguire and Lindelof for Lascelles and Schar and we'd have won by 4 or 5.
 
Might be controversial but his redemption arc thing has been overhyped. He is not performing like Maldini or vidicesque. He is doing a decent job in a shit side. Doesn't mean he is a top class defender. What he is doing now is basic, nothing extraordinary.
 
Might be controversial but his redemption arc thing has been overhyped. He is not performing like Maldini or vidicesque. He is doing a decent job in a shit side. Doesn't mean he is a top class defender. What he is doing now is basic, nothing extraordinary.

It's not controversial, at least it shouldn't be, everything you said is right.
 
Are you going to prove otherwise or just throw that statement out there?

I'm willing to bet there are countless examples of him doing this every game.
I mean starter for ten, in that video Maguire is criticised for "not making himself available to Onana", which is entirely fair. However, later on when he is available as a option, the video then makes the implicit criticism that "Maguire isn't being pressed because he's not a threat". That creates a scenario where the guy cannot fecking win; if he's not available for a pass then he's hiding, and if he is it's because the opposition don't view him as a threat.

Also, even throughout most of those clips that have been selected specifically to criticise Maguire, it's painfully obvious that the midfield are the much much bigger problem.
 
Had a good game. The only player who put himself about and tried to rally the players and force an equaliser during injury time.
 
It's hilarious how the guy who was on the receiving end of more abuse than anybody and everyone wanted rid of, is one of the few putting in consistently decent performances, behaving professionally and making an effort. Not that he's ever going to be an amazing defender, but feck me, I at least appreciate the bare minimum of effort. I hope Marcus Rashford fecks off long before Maguire
 
A well run club will use this to get a good price for him in the summer. However, at United it'll be funny when he gets a new contract on the back of this & under the Jimmy Brexit's English revolution, and then goes on to stink up the place for another 3 seasons.
 
Feel sorry for him.
Dude came back from firing line, and the team decided to down the tools.
I am not his biggest fan, but I respect his mentality and willingness.
 
A well run club will use this to get a good price for him in the summer. However, at United it'll be funny when he gets a new contract on the back of this & under the Jimmy Brexit's English revolution, and then goes on to stink up the place for another 3 seasons.
yep exactly what i was thinking. This would help us actually get a decent price for him if we were proactive. The rumor that jimmy wants a bigger english core is scary when you consider how overpriced even the most remotely talented english player is vs the value in the market for non english talent
 
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