Mcking
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His passing is good, and he was very good defensively today. Seems to be getting his mojo back. Just needs Martinez back there now.
He needs to stop thinking he's Pirlo and give the ball to the playmakers
Fred. He should give it to Fred.We didn't have any 'playmakers' until Eriksen came on, did you wish him to hang onto the ball until then? Silly thing to mention when Fred & McTommy are in front of him, there's a reason why Ten Hag wants De Jong.
Fred. He should give it to Fred.
Bruno. He should give it to Bruno.
Feck it Malacia. He should give it to Malacia.
He gives it away trying to sail balls over the defense. Lindelof is better at it than him. Give it to Lindelof.
Based on?Looks to have got his self together.
He's not actively like us starting with 10 men, after last season that will do for a starterBased on?
My issue with Maguire isn’t actually his performances, we know who & what he is at this point it’s people that act like a few good games, following a few bad games make him the best/worst player on earth, & in fairness vice versa. He’s certainly been better in the past few friendlies, let’s see how he goes throughout a season before anointing him back ‘together’.
Maguire when he's playing well is better than Lindelof, better than Varane has shown for us and better than Bailly has performed for more than a couple of matches in a row. Maguire's performances in the second half of 20/21 were easily the best any of our current defenders have ever played for us, and second only to Smalling in 15/16 in terms of any of our defenders since the days of Rio and Vidic.I really don't understand why he's in the majority of peoples preferred line ups for the game on Sunday and the upcoming season. Is it simply because it looks like Ten Hag is going to keep him in the side or because people actually think he's one of our strongest CB's? I don't how many chances people want to afford him but no way do I have him as one of my first choice CB's. He's behind Martinez, Varane, Lindelof and Bailly in terms of ability. The only CB I'd have him in front of is Phil Jones and that's only based on fitness.
Of course, I'm willing to be proven wrong and for him to become a good player under a new manager but I just can't see it.
Maguire when he's playing well is better than Lindelof, better than Varane has shown for us and better than Bailly has performed for more than a couple of matches in a row. Maguire's performances in the second half of 20/21 were easily the best any of our current defenders have ever played for us, and second only to Smalling in 15/16 in terms of any of our defenders since the days of Rio and Vidic.
Whether he can get back to that form is debatable, but with Varane's injury issues he is clearly first choice atm.
He was probably our best central defender during the preseason."Maguire when he's playing well". Which is almost never, that's the problem. We could say the same about anyone when they are "playing well". I just don't think he's going to play well often enough. He's consistently poor nowadays and I think you have overrated his performances in the second half of 20/21.
Maguire is the one with the highest ceiling of our defenders. I am mostly worried he will end up in bad positions this season. We saw already last season how teams tried to pull him out to the side and isolate him 1v1 against quick dribblers.He was probably our best central defender during the preseason.
I've tended to be the one criticising Maguire to his fans, and pointing out how inconsistent he has been. But you are going too far the other way. If Maguire is playing well he is one of our top two centre backs, and as such he rightfully should get first shot at the starting role. His performances should then determine if he stays in that role or if he gets dropped.
Now that we have what will hopefully be a proper manager with a proper coaching set-up, the hope is we will have an actual playing style that does make it easier for our players. As bad as Maguire was on the individual level last season (and he was extremely bad in the first half of the season, so-so in the second half), the complete collapse of our team and the obvious lack of any proper coaching put an incredible amount of pressure on the defence.