according to the data Harry top speed is similar to Kyle Walker's who clocked 35.21 km/h but look at the difference here.
Harry Maguire’s speed...
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Those are only used during the training (and there aren't sewn into shirts).
Makes sense. I think I've read a more comprehensive analysis on those somewhere after which I trust those numbers even less.
You're comparing accleration and top speed. Look towards the end of the video Maguire starts catching up quite quickly
I mixed it up with another sport. I was thinking of rugby or GAA where they have them on their backs maybe.
Those sports bra vests the players wear under their shirts do have gps trackers in them.
He can has a top speed of 100km/h but it doesnt matter if he accelerates like a titanic. He always got burned in short distance.
no he doesn't. Man stop
. they started in line with each other and Walker had to run across too and ended up infront of Maguire and was the sole reason Muller missed. You guys are persistent. Walker is the guy nearest to us btwbut he has ZERO recovery pace so in effect he does not have pace and is therefore slow.
I agree with stacks comment, a top class defender requires recovery speed, because there will be times when forwards will evade the tackle, and you need to recover. He does not have this ability to turn and make that second tackle, plus his spacial awareness is questionable, a number of times he has been caught as the last man when the defensive line has moved up, leaving the opposition on side.
This. Probably easiest defender to beat 1v1 on counter scenarios. These speedy forwards just need to nick the ball behind him and ran away. Either he lost the footrace or resort to fouls to stop them.
Reminds me of when I've got no boost in rocket league. I make an effort to get back but everybody knows I'm not getting back.
You only need to watch videos of him at Leicester to see he was quicker than he's showing recently. He's always been a bit slow to get going but once in his stride he's definitely NOT slow.no he doesn't. Man stop
Injuries have clearly made him hold back/slow down a little. He rushed back for the Europa league final/Euros and then got injured again early in the season and rushed back again. If you don't fully heal that will effect the way you can run.
I genuinely do think he's playing with a few knocks/niggles right now, hopefully with a bit of a break he can get those healed up and get back to his best.
You seem to have this obsession with scapegoating him, so why don't you tell me
It was a rhetorical question. Unfortunately I can’t take you seriously enough to actually debate. Merry Christmas!
It wouldn't surprise me at all that top PL footballers hit speeds that are close to the 2nd-fastest woman on the planet. I used to work with a bloke who could beat the women's world record for a 5KM and a 10KM run but yet never made a Team GB running team at any level. The fact is, elite male sportsmen are significantly physically faster, stronger and more powerful than elite sportswomen.
We don't know for sure how the stats are calculated, but why would they be skewed in Maguire's favour? Also, I find it hard to believe it's that difficult to calculate, should be one of the simplest things to measure, surely? Speed = Distance/Time...you learn that in school! Plus, I am big fan of Horse Racing, and they can measure the stride length (in metres), stride frequency and speed of a horse down to a tenth of a second.
Again, just to go back to my point....I am not saying Maguire is rapid....what I am saying is that all the Data indicates his speed (or supposed lack of) is a myth/non-issue, certainly when compared to other players in his position. Bear in mind, I compared with top defenders at top clubs, to make sure it was an 'elite' comparison.
Yeah I’ve lost faith in these dodgy speed stats.
It wasn’t long ago Mata came up as one of our quickest in training if I remember correctly? He was faster than Shaw.
Same problem as with Pogba I think. Both tall, heavy players who can get going in a long sprint but look slow and awkward on short distances because they can't accelerate fast enough and turn very slowly.
It would surprise me as very few of those players receive Olympic training. Only a handful of players have every run sub 11 in hundred metres and they don't have proper running technique.
Well it is as we literally saw Kyle Walker leave him in his dust vs Germany (amongst many other players) and Kyle according to the data, has the same speed as Maguire. It is not a non issue since he has zero recovery pace and gets burned.
also what about the others? Fred, Soyunco and Foden are quicker than Vardy, Rashford and Kyle Walker?
We've hired a psychologist, perhaps next we should hire a sprint coach, doesn't Usain Bolt support Utd.
Why do people keep quoting my post as if I am arguing Maguire is some kind of sprinter?
This thread is titled "Harry Maguire's speed..." and I posted his speed stats, without any of my own comment.
We all know there is more to speed than average speed and top speed. As I mentioned elsewhere, I am a massive horse racing fan and used to compile my own speed ratings, so I am well aware of the danger of taking these numbers at face value without context.
However, I go back to the point which I keep making, which is that his numbers are about in the middle. I would say, visually, it looks like Maguire is slow to get going but then reasonable in a straight line.
I do keep reiterating that I think the fact our CBs keep having to get into foot races is more of an issue with tactics than anything else. I am not comparing Maguire to Vidic or Terry, but how would they have fared at United this season? I would have thought pretty terribly based on how open we have been.
Great analogy
Aye those top speeds looks suspiciously fast. Possible but I'd be surprised if all of those players were hitting 37-38km/h on grass with boots and shinguards on. You translate those speeds to spikes on a fast track and they'll be pushing 39-40km/h which would suggest they are capable of running 10.5 or quicker for 100m. There will be a very small proportion of footballers who can run 100m under 11 seconds, but they will be few and far between and some of those names don't look incredibly quick on the park, in the way that the likes of Robben or Haaland do. For example, the fastest speed attributed to Haaland is 36km/h or 22.4mph and he is an athletic freak in the way that most of those guys aren't.
The other caveat is these times never really compare like with like as they are simply snapshots in game. Top speed will be dictated by the opportunity to hit a top speed, which is often why the centre-halves crack these lists because they are more likely to make long bursts towards their own goal during counter-attacks. To accurately assess and compare top speeds, you need timing gates and cameras which is what top sprinters will use to measure their flying 10-30m times.