Tottenham 4-2 Real Madrid on aggregate
Harry Kane MBE | Performances
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Tottenham 4-2 Real Madrid on aggregate
Even though I really like Lukaku, I think he is currently the best striker in premier league.
Aguero keep getting less game also help Kane cement that position.
But I think he got many stick here because his antics and he plays for Spurs
Top 5 striker? Definitely
I don't think so about top 5 forward/attacking player though, there are Ronaldo, Messi, Salah, De Bruyne, Neymar, and other who is in the diacudiscu for that
Aguero keep getting less game also help Kane cement that position.
But I think he got many stick here because his antics and he plays for Spurs
Top 5 striker? Definitely
I don't think so about top 5 forward/attacking player though, there are Ronaldo, Messi, Salah, De Bruyne, Neymar, and other who is in the diacudiscu for that
Yeah, cracking game of 2 european powerhouses as between both clubs they hold 13 UCL cups!
Best number 9 in the world currently. There is no one better right now. Had a quiet game but contributed with 2 goals. England's only world class player.
Madness. The only thing Lukaku has on Kane is pace and size. Kane bests him in every other category.
Funny how that part is twisted for different players. When someone like Rooney or Lukaku plays average game and scores, people would say "he scored goal but he was poor".
Not saying Kane is average or anything, just that particular point is used both ways for different players.
He seems to be Saint Kane now around these parts 
I agree with you. However when you examine football in simple teams, the role of a GK is to stop goals going in, the role of a striker is to score goals. He did, and job done
Yeah agree with that.
Just in last friendlies, Lukaku scored 2 and made 1 assist, some guy said it wasn't all that good performance apart from goals and assist. With you on this, job of strikers is to create and score and Kane did his job.
Many people talk s*ite these days. If you look at the goal scoring record of Kane over the past 3 seasons, who is better in world football as a number 9?
He had a pretty average game, looked heavy and slow in the head for most of the match. That usual quick thinking and clever movement just didn't seem to be there for him.
Saying that though his natural ability of sniffing out goals (tap ins) is a real blessing. The header especially was much harder than it looked.
He's got to perform better, but getting 2 goals under his belt will take the pressure off immensely.
Saying that though his natural ability of sniffing out goals (tap ins) is a real blessing. The header especially was much harder than it looked.
He's got to perform better, but getting 2 goals under his belt will take the pressure off immensely.
They aren't even in the same category - Kane is comfortable a tier above Lukaku and has been for the past few years.
What's he moaning about, did he want Tunisia's player to let him play his game ? he needs to stop this b****** to the media all the time.
And what's it about Tunisia's penalty, if anything it should have been a sending off, it was a clear elbow. how can you be this bitter, i would understand if they lost, but England won ....
We have so many PK decisions in this WC and unsurprisingly people rarely 100% share the same opinion about a call. Seen quite a bit disagreement for this one too. Commentator on German TV also said it's extremly soft and not a penalty for him.
The call is a joke tbh. Look at the position of his elbow, his arm movement and where the Tunisian's players head is. Clearly not an intentional elbow. This a pretty regular arm movement (and not an elbow check) that happens 100x during set pieces etc, the guy just had his head lowered and was looking for it.
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The penalty was soft and 100% not a sending off. Walker said he got the call from Trippier to leave it because the attacker wasn't getting the ball so he put his arms up to shield the ball out and accidentally hit the face of the attacker who went down like he had been shot.
As Rio said after, Walker's body shape was all wrong for the situation and he should have been facing the ball but that is a consequence of player a RB at CB.
That said, I'm not too offended by the penalty as it was unintelligent play by Walker.
As Rio said after, Walker's body shape was all wrong for the situation and he should have been facing the ball but that is a consequence of player a RB at CB.
That said, I'm not too offended by the penalty as it was unintelligent play by Walker.
Are you for real? Lukaku has close to matched Kane over the past 5 years and he's hardly played in a creative side, and I include United in that. Kane gets twice as much service playing for a Spurs side that is built around him.
For Kane's goalscoring record, which is excellent, his general all round play is fairly shocking; He has no pace whatsoever, he could well have been Englands slowest player last night, and he provides little in terms of chance creation for team mates.
Lukaku has everything that Kane has and more. He runs the channels far more effectively, is stronger and more creative. I would not swap Lukaku for Kane.
He's been very good, but he needs to perform better at the highest level.
He's only been world class in the Premier League with nothing to show for in the CL or international level.
He's only been world class in the Premier League with nothing to show for in the CL or international level.
It’s not just this one performance though is it? The logic that he will score more centrally than on the wing doesn’t wash in football, two very different positions the main problem bring there is a lot less space centrally than out wide.
The mind boggles.
I'm not sure what to say about this comment. Kane's all round play is excellent I'm not sure if you've ever seen a Tottenham game in your life or?
PL Goals scored in the last 4 seasons:
2014/2015 - Kane 21 vs Lukaku 10
2015/2016 - Kane 25 vs Lukaku 18
2016/2017 - Kane 29 vs Lukaku 25
2017/2018 - Kane 30 vs Lukaku 16
Please enlighten me then, Robin the Liverpool fan, what does Kane have that Lukaku doesn't?
Can you disagree with what I've said as regards him having greater pace and power, running the channels better and being debatably more creative?
He's scored 9 goals in 10 Champions League appearances and 15 goals in 25 England appearances so far in his career. That's quite a lot of something at those levels.
TBH I'll keep Kane at Spurs then as he is good enough for us and you can keep the better player in Lukaku. I'll just have to deal with the vastly better goal scoring records somehow.
Except Kane has better movement, is the better finisher, is better holding the ball, and the better player when the stakes are high, the latter being something Lukaku really needs to sort out. Add to that consistency too.
You are right about being stronger, creative and running the channels, but if he can't sort the rest out it doesn't matter
Did you see the game, on 2 occasions Kane was basically being climbed over and brought to the ground and the ref did nothing in absolutely blatant positions that would have resulted in penalties. If I didn’t know better I would think the red was handed a stuffed brown envelope before the game.
Nail on head and why Walker shouldn’t be at CB he was facing his own goal and the ball coming over his shoulder, he could see neither the player or the ball. Soft penalty maybe but it was idiotic from Walker.
Kane is complaining about inconsistency - if the raised arm by Walker is probably a penalty, then presumably a full on rugby tackle in the box is definitely a penalty?
So why is his goal scoring record no where close to Kane’s if he has more ability? Let me guess it’s Man United style of play that’s happening him....
He scores more goals, is lethal in the box and can actually create score goals on his own, something Lukaku sorely lacks. Did you watch our game yesterday? Lukaku had 7 touches in the first half and went into hiding went things got rough - he needs (a lot of) supply to score goals, his first touch and hold-up play are still terrible, he has a poor record against big teams in the PL and he struggles against defenses that sit deep as well. Kane doesn't have pace but neither did Inzaghi or Van Persie and others - he's simply a world class striker, while I'd class Lukaku as a good striker who scores goals if everything goes well, with the potential to be even better if he improves certain aspects of his game.
Besides all that, Lukaku doesn't come close to Kane's goalscoring record in the PL in the last few years.
That I can agree with, and thought of it after my post. Kane is the more effective in big games, he seems to relish them. I don't think he's categorically the better finisher. Lukaku's second goal yesterday showed a lot of his strengths at once.
Lukaku misses quite a few chances, he certainly isn't as good a finisher as Kane.
Let me ask what you think, who’s header was the more difficult yesterday... Kane’s or Lukaku’s?
Really? Maybe its down to Pochs tactics but he doesn't seem to be the same player away from home against the top sides.
I don't know how much this has changed but Lukaku and Kane had the same scoring rate v the big 6 at the start of last season.
Kane just seems to be consistent, I don't think he has any big game elevation to his play tbh.
Re-read what I've written, his all round game is better. He has more qualities than being a poacher.
If you choose to judge on goals scored alone, that is up to you, although Kane had twice as many shots in the PL last season.
Hasn't he scored 7 goals in the last 7 North London derbies?