Harry Kane | "I will be staying at Tottenham this summer and will be 100% focused on helping the team achieve success."

So penalties don't count as goals?

Both Haaland and Mbappe play for clubs in leagues that are alot lesser than the PL, ofcourse to suit your argument, you wouldn't take that into consideration.

Also, could you explain what injury prone means?

Finally, no one says Kane is worth £150m, but that is what he is worth to Spurs and there are very many reasons why.
The reason why Haaland fee this summer is £150m and Mbappe with one year left is still over £100m shows how good of players they are, if all things were equal, all 3 players had 3 years left on their contract, PSG and Dortmund would want over £200m
Penalties are of course goals, but they don't say much about the quality of the player as a striker. So goalscoringratio without penalties says more about his goalscoring abilities than with them.
A couple of dilemmas for you:
Which striker is better: A striker who scores 25 goals a season, no penalties, or a striker who scores 30 goals a season, 10 penalties?
Which one would you want in your team?
I really hope we agree on those two.

Haaland and Mbappe plays for teams in weaker leagues, but their performances on the biggest stage, the CL, is still better. Their performances in the weaker leagues are also better. I like Kane, he is a really good striker and player, but I think you have to be English to rate him up there with the absolute best players in the world, and a pricetag of 150M for a 28 year old striker without extraordinary physique is just crazy. He also has 0 titles to his name. Considering this is the year, as you say, you can get Mbappe or Haaland for the same or less it would be absolute madness to spend 150M on any other players than those 2.

In 16/17 season Kane missed 13 games due to injury
In 18/19 season Kane missed 16 games due to injury
In 19/20 season Kane missed 19 games due to injury

Thats 25% pluss in 3 of the last 5 seasons. I would call that injury prone.

Kane's biggest mistake was obviously to sign that 6 year contract, that makes it possible for Spurs to hold him hostage.
 
Penalties are of course goals, but they don't say much about the quality of the player as a striker. So goalscoringratio without penalties says more about his goalscoring abilities than with them.
A couple of dilemmas for you:
Which striker is better: A striker who scores 25 goals a season, no penalties, or a striker who scores 30 goals a season, 10 penalties?
Which one would you want in your team?
I really hope we agree on those two.

Haaland and Mbappe plays for teams in weaker leagues, but their performances on the biggest stage, the CL, is still better. Their performances in the weaker leagues are also better. I like Kane, he is a really good striker and player, but I think you have to be English to rate him up there with the absolute best players in the world, and a pricetag of 150M for a 28 year old striker without extraordinary physique is just crazy. He also has 0 titles to his name. Considering this is the year, as you say, you can get Mbappe or Haaland for the same or less it would be absolute madness to spend 150M on any other players than those 2.

In 16/17 season Kane missed 13 games due to injury
In 18/19 season Kane missed 16 games due to injury
In 19/20 season Kane missed 19 games due to injury

Thats 25% pluss in 3 of the last 5 seasons. I would call that injury prone.

Kane's biggest mistake was obviously to sign that 6 year contract, that makes it possible for Spurs to hold him hostage.

Ofcourse 25 non pen goals

I do get what you are saying but he is the top 3 strikers in the world behind Lewandowski and Haaland. Mbappe, I don't class as a striker really.

Again, agreed that it is his own mistake for signing s 6 year contract, considering its Spurs and Levy, you must know what you are getting into.

Ofcourse, if you asked me what I would pay for him, it would be max £80m but if you add the things that matter in this transfer, I can see why its £150m. English tax adds £20m, Levy himself will add £20m, then you have contract length and all sorts.

Obviously if you are spending that it would be dumb not to get Haaland instead.

However; they come with issues of their own. Haaland has Raiola who will want £40m himself and Mbappe only wants Madrid. City want a ST this season and Kane is a proven goal scorer.

The other problem is that there are no out and out strikers around anymore, there is a real shortage of top quality strikers in European football at the moment.
 
Ofcourse 25 non pen goals

I do get what you are saying but he is the top 3 strikers in the world behind Lewandowski and Haaland. Mbappe, I don't class as a striker really.

Again, agreed that it is his own mistake for signing s 6 year contract, considering its Spurs and Levy, you must know what you are getting into.

Ofcourse, if you asked me what I would pay for him, it would be max £80m but if you add the things that matter in this transfer, I can see why its £150m. English tax adds £20m, Levy himself will add £20m, then you have contract length and all sorts.

Obviously if you are spending that it would be dumb not to get Haaland instead.

However; they come with issues of their own. Haaland has Raiola who will want £40m himself and Mbappe only wants Madrid. City want a ST this season and Kane is a proven goal scorer.

The other problem is that there are no out and out strikers around anymore, there is a real shortage of top quality strikers in European football at the moment.
I guess we pretty much agree on most of the above.

Another thing though is that City already have 4 years younger Jesus who actually has outperformed Kane when it comes to goalcontributions per minute played since he came to City, and they don't trust him to be their main man:

Jesus for City: 150 minutes per non penalty goal, 346 minutes per assist and 105 minutes per G/A for City in his career.
Kane for Spurs: 140 minutes per non penalty goal, 559 minutes per assist and 112 minutes per G/A for Spurs in his career.

Jesus has played for a dominating City though, so not comparing apples with apples here either.
 
Sounds daft I know but would prefer City to get Kane over Grealish but then that's because I want us to still get Jack one day
 
Sounds daft I know but would prefer City to get Kane over Grealish but then that's because I want us to still get Jack one day
You and me both, although I think that will be dependent on one or both of Pogba and Martial leaving.
 
Sounds daft I know but would prefer City to get Kane over Grealish but then that's because I want us to still get Jack one day
Also if they get Kane, then it probably takes them out of the haaland running next year. Lukaku to Chelsea does the same thing. Can only help our chances to get haaland
 
Unless City wants to spend £150m on Kane this summer I am not sure Levy will let him go.

Kane's mistake was signing that six year deal. If he had signed a five year deal instead he would be in the last two years of his contract, which would give him much more leverage. He's in a similar position to the one Sancho was in last summer: With three years left on your deal there is no pressure on your club to sell immediately. Value only starts to drop significantly in the last two years of a contract.

People will say we signed Sancho for less than Dortmund were asking for last summer. However, from Dortmund's perspective, they signed Sancho for sweet F.A. Therefore, its all profit for them. Levy will feel the same way if he ends up selling Kane for £80m next summer. Especially if Kane's goals get Spurs close to, or in to, the top four.
 
What wage will Kane come with?

Kane in the CL: 123 minutes per non penalty goal in the CL and 696 minutes per assist or 102 minutes per non penalty G/A
Mbappe in the CL: 144 minutes per non penalty goal in the CL and 203 minutes per assist or 82 minutes per non penalty G/A
Haaland in the CL: 74 minutes per non penalty goal in the CL and 420 minutes per assist or 63 minutes per non penalty G/A

None of Kanes seasons for Spurs has been close to what Haaland has done for Dortmund as a 19 and 20 year old.

Harry had a spree in the first 11 matces of the campaign last season where he assisted 10 times.Other than that he has contributed with an absolute minimum of key passes in his career (6 matches on average between each assist in his entire football career) He is not direct and not creative. Both Haaland and Mbappe creates more for their teammates.

+ Kanes value will go down from here no matter how well he does for you bacuse of his age......and he is injury prone.

150M in this market for Kane would be complete madness.
Ofcourse 25 non pen goals

I do get what you are saying but he is the top 3 strikers in the world behind Lewandowski and Haaland. Mbappe, I don't class as a striker really.

Again, agreed that it is his own mistake for signing s 6 year contract, considering its Spurs and Levy, you must know what you are getting into.

Ofcourse, if you asked me what I would pay for him, it would be max £80m but if you add the things that matter in this transfer, I can see why its £150m. English tax adds £20m, Levy himself will add £20m, then you have contract length and all sorts.

Obviously if you are spending that it would be dumb not to get Haaland instead.

However; they come with issues of their own. Haaland has Raiola who will want £40m himself and Mbappe only wants Madrid. City want a ST this season and Kane is a proven goal scorer.

The other problem is that there are no out and out strikers around anymore, there is a real shortage of top quality strikers in European football at the moment.

‘Isn’t there a line of reasoning where we, as Man United, would actually prefer for Kane to move this summer to City, along with Grealish?

Why? One less legitimate contender for Haaland next year.

If we can agree that Haaland will only go to clubs who can afford his wages and City already have Kane, that leaves: Chelsea, Real Madrid, PSG and us. Barca is in financial hell, already signed Depay and Aguero. Bayern will still have Lewandowski and have a pretty rigid wage structure. Juventus is unlikely due to financial issues.

Mbappe’s first choice is Real, and he may move this summer or on a free to Real next summer. That leaves Chelsea, PSG and United. Those are decent odds and we might have a shot at Haaland…
 
If Kane signs for city it could go either way, they could be less fluid in there attacking because guardiola normally likes technical players. On the other hand though, with the way city play and always squaring it into the box, Kane will get like 30+ goals a season.
 
Even before the window opened, the City journalists were saying that City's intention was to sign both Grealish and Kane. The obstacle is probably selling players to make the Kane bid viable with extra scrutiny on them for FFP.
They funnily got bailed out of an FFP punishment last time. I doubt they even care about it now if they know they could escape the consequences anyway.
 
‘Isn’t there a line of reasoning where we, as Man United, would actually prefer for Kane to move this summer to City, along with Grealish?

Why? One less legitimate contender for Haaland next year.

If we can agree that Haaland will only go to clubs who can afford his wages and City already have Kane, that leaves: Chelsea, Real Madrid, PSG and us. Barca is in financial hell, already signed Depay and Aguero. Bayern will still have Lewandowski and have a pretty rigid wage structure. Juventus is unlikely due to financial issues.

Mbappe’s first choice is Real, and he may move this summer or on a free to Real next summer. That leaves Chelsea, PSG and United. Those are decent odds and we might have a shot at Haaland…

Kane going to City does help us get Haaland next season.

However; there is one big factor in that happening.. Raiola. It all depends how that relationship is.
 
If Kane signs for city it could go either way, they could be less fluid in there attacking because guardiola normally likes technical players. On the other hand though, with the way city play and always squaring it into the box, Kane will get like 30+ goals a season.
Kane is a highly technical player though?
 
I wish I could do that in my job.

Don't we all, to top it off there's quotes from sources his end that say he feels the situation has been blown out of proportion

Kane clearly doesn't live in the real world
 
Penalties are of course goals, but they don't say much about the quality of the player as a striker. So goalscoringratio without penalties says more about his goalscoring abilities than with them.
A couple of dilemmas for you:
Which striker is better: A striker who scores 25 goals a season, no penalties, or a striker who scores 30 goals a season, 10 penalties?
Which one would you want in your team?
I really hope we agree on those two.

Haaland and Mbappe plays for teams in weaker leagues, but their performances on the biggest stage, the CL, is still better. Their performances in the weaker leagues are also better. I like Kane, he is a really good striker and player, but I think you have to be English to rate him up there with the absolute best players in the world, and a pricetag of 150M for a 28 year old striker without extraordinary physique is just crazy. He also has 0 titles to his name. Considering this is the year, as you say, you can get Mbappe or Haaland for the same or less it would be absolute madness to spend 150M on any other players than those 2.

In 16/17 season Kane missed 13 games due to injury
In 18/19 season Kane missed 16 games due to injury
In 19/20 season Kane missed 19 games due to injury

Thats 25% pluss in 3 of the last 5 seasons. I would call that injury prone.

Kane's biggest mistake was obviously to sign that 6 year contract, that makes it possible for Spurs to hold him hostage.

I think you're missing the point completely here. Mbappe plays a completely different position to Kane and could actually play in the same team as him for City. I'd argue that Kane and Mbappe in the same side would be exceptionally potent when you consider Kane's ability to drop deep and create for his wide forwards (see his link up with Son last season). The key point being that Mbappe cannot offer what Kane does to a team as a 9, which is a more total football style where he plays as a hybrid 9 & 10. Haaland, whilst playing the same position as Kane, plays it very differently, with him being solely the focal point of the attack. Guardiola does not favour this type of 9 in his system.

If you look deeper into their stats then you will see that Kane is on a different level as a passer of the ball to both those players which strongly suggests the reason as to why Guardiola would want to sign him over those two players, although to reiterate that only Haaland is a meangingful comparison anyway.

When you consider the levels of the leagues the respective players compete in, look at Kane's npXG, then I'd argue that it would be reasonable to expect a similar level of goal output as those two players in a top league like the PL when he plays in a high chance creation side like City. That's whilst adding the qualities to the team that the other two players can't in the 9 position.

Go into the full report for the passing stats.

https://fbref.com/en/players/21a66f6a/scout/365_euro/Harry-Kane-Scouting-Report

https://fbref.com/en/players/42fd9c7f/scout/365_euro/Kylian-Mbappe-Scouting-Report

https://fbref.com/en/players/1f44ac21/Erling-Haaland
 
I think you're missing the point completely here. Mbappe plays a completely different position to Kane and could actually play in the same team as him for City. I'd argue that Kane and Mbappe in the same side would be exceptionally potent when you consider Kane's ability to drop deep and create for his wide forwards (see his link up with Son last season). The key point being that Mbappe cannot offer what Kane does to a team as a 9, which is a more total football style where he plays as a hybrid 9 & 10. Haaland, whilst playing the same position as Kane, plays it very differently, with him being solely the focal point of the attack. Guardiola does not favour this type of 9 in his system.

If you look deeper into their stats then you will see that Kane is on a different level as a passer of the ball to both those players which strongly suggests the reason as to why Guardiola would want to sign him over those two players, although to reiterate that only Haaland is a meangingful comparison anyway.

When you consider the levels of the leagues the respective players compete in, look at Kane's npXG, then I'd argue that it would be reasonable to expect a similar level of goal output as those two players in a top league like the PL when he plays in a high chance creation side like City. That's whilst adding the qualities to the team that the other two players can't in the 9 position.

Go into the full report for the passing stats.

https://fbref.com/en/players/21a66f6a/scout/365_euro/Harry-Kane-Scouting-Report

https://fbref.com/en/players/42fd9c7f/scout/365_euro/Kylian-Mbappe-Scouting-Report

https://fbref.com/en/players/1f44ac21/Erling-Haaland
Good post. Agree Kane's all round game offers something to city that neither Mbappe or Haaland offer. Mbappe has stated serveral times that he preferes the wide forward position and therefore not a no9. Haaland although a very good goalscorer, is very much and individualistic player. Dropping deeper and creating chances for other will come to him with age and experience.

Kane is probably right now the best match for city in terms of what they need from a no9. His goalscoring will improve as he will be playing with better players and his potential injuries can be managed better by City as he can be rested for games where at Spurs he played all the time. Every game.
 
Sounds daft I know but would prefer City to get Kane over Grealish but then that's because I want us to still get Jack one day
Given we need to upgrade the center of our midfield, and have to add a main no 9, I can't see us signing Grealish tbh.
 
Without Kane, Spurs have next to no chance of finishing in the top 4, and their marketability diminishes massively if he leaves. In a good season, you could argue that Kane brings in anywhere upwards of 50-70m for Spurs.
But Spurs have minimal chances for top 4 finish regardless. City, United, Chelsea and Liverpool have big advantage, and there is also Leicester
 
But Spurs have minimal chances for top 4 finish regardless. City, United, Chelsea and Liverpool have big advantage, and there is also Leicester

All the more reason for Spurs to value him so highly.

Without Kane, the slight chance they have of a top 4 finish all but disappears.
 
Harry Kane just does not make sense for any club except those flush with money and no regard for losses due to his age and lack of sell-on value. United already have Cavani and by the time he leaves Kane will be 29 years of age with only a few years at his peak left.

Say he's purchased at 120 Million: He basically has 4 years at the very top which would be 30 Million a year in transfer fees, and a salary of say 400k a week which equates to 20 Million. It would end up costing 1 Million a week to any purchasing club. This is Messi level money who is getting Barcelona in financial difficulties.

I don't think age will affect his game too much, he already drops deep and links play. He's more technical than physical. The only question mark would be around his injuries and whether they catch up with him. Talk of sell on value is ridiculous, top players retire here, we're not a selling club generally. If we bought Kane and his goals won us the league, he'd be worth every penny. More and more players are now running down contracts and selling for below their value too. We should be looking to buy players that we can trust to do the job we need, proven in the league and that improve us instantly. To turn our nose up at Kane would be crazy imo.
 
It will have to be Spurs and Levy who uphold the integrity of the league. They should demand the Neymar money because Kane is just as important and integral to Spurs.
 
I think you're missing the point completely here. Mbappe plays a completely different position to Kane and could actually play in the same team as him for City. I'd argue that Kane and Mbappe in the same side would be exceptionally potent when you consider Kane's ability to drop deep and create for his wide forwards (see his link up with Son last season). The key point being that Mbappe cannot offer what Kane does to a team as a 9, which is a more total football style where he plays as a hybrid 9 & 10. Haaland, whilst playing the same position as Kane, plays it very differently, with him being solely the focal point of the attack. Guardiola does not favour this type of 9 in his system.

If you look deeper into their stats then you will see that Kane is on a different level as a passer of the ball to both those players which strongly suggests the reason as to why Guardiola would want to sign him over those two players, although to reiterate that only Haaland is a meangingful comparison anyway.

When you consider the levels of the leagues the respective players compete in, look at Kane's npXG, then I'd argue that it would be reasonable to expect a similar level of goal output as those two players in a top league like the PL when he plays in a high chance creation side like City. That's whilst adding the qualities to the team that the other two players can't in the 9 position.

Go into the full report for the passing stats.

https://fbref.com/en/players/21a66f6a/scout/365_euro/Harry-Kane-Scouting-Report

https://fbref.com/en/players/42fd9c7f/scout/365_euro/Kylian-Mbappe-Scouting-Report

https://fbref.com/en/players/1f44ac21/Erling-Haaland
Oh lord!
Kane last season (where your stats are from) and Haaland is completely different striker types. Kane dropped deep alot more (15,5% of his touches in the boxes), got involved a lot more and used more touches per pass (1,56 touches per pass), while Haaland spent as much time as possible in the boxes (28% of his touches in the boxes) and played direct whenever possible. Mbappe often plays wider and gets involved a lot more than both the other two. Even then Harry has a pass completion rate lower than both the players we are comparing him to here (Harry 70%, Erling 74%, Mbappe 78%). His xA was alltime high for him last season with 0,23 per 90, just a tad higher than Haalands 0,21 per 90, even though Harry attempts 50% more passes. Kylian is at 0,26 with 95% more passing attempts than Haaland. Haaland by far the most direct player of them and never takes freekicks or setpieces.

When it comes to finishing and getting in to good scoring positions, Haaland is in a league of his own.
Do you really think Harry would increase his npxG with 38% if he played for City?
Harry shoots a lot and wastes chances like few other top strikers. He shoots from all angles and all distances, while Erling chooses his chances more carefully while also being a lot more clinical.

Finishing and goalscoring:

Harry:
Shots on target: 36,2% (25 percentile)
Goals per shot: 0,14 (40 percentile)
nxpG: 0,55 per 90 (90 percentile)
npG-nxpG: +0,03 (57 percentile) He outperforms the expected output of his chances by 2,7% (a bit over average for strikers)

Erling:
Shots on target: 54,3% (96 percentile)
Goals per shot: 0,29 (99 percentile)
nxpG: 0,76 per 90 (98 percentile)
npG-nxpG: +0,22 (95 percentile) He outperforms the expected output of his chances by 29% (outrageous for a striker)

If you have creators in your team and want a guy to convert your chances, Kane is not your man if you can choose between those two. Haaland and Mbappe also adds something a new dimension to your counterattack.
If you want a guy that drops deeper and involves himself more in the buildup, then sure Kane could be a better option. Will he score more than he does for Spurs? Hard to tell as he is shooting more often than anyone in the PL already (and Haaland and Mbappe). Kane shoots on average 4,03 times per 90, while Jesus and Aguero both sits well below 3 shots per 90. So it will be interesting to see if the City signs him.
 
If you have creators in your team and want a guy to convert your chances, Kane is not your man if you can choose between those two. Haaland and Mbappe also adds something a new dimension to your counterattack.
If you want a guy that drops deeper and involves himself more in the buildup, then sure Kane could be a better option. Will he score more than he does for Spurs? Hard to tell as he is shooting more often than anyone in the PL already (and Haaland and Mbappe). Kane shoots on average 4,03 times per 90, while Jesus and Aguero both sits well below 3 shots per 90. So it will be interesting to see if the City signs him.

That's the whole point though isn't it. That is what Guardiola wants. Guardiola doesn't use forwards like Haaland so why would he change his highly successful style to do so? Mbappe plays in a different position that City are stacked in so it isn't a meaningful comparison. Not to mention that he seems to have his eyes on Real Madrid only.

Kane will likely have to adjust his style under Guardiola and will take less pot shots. He will also be the beneficiary of more high xG chances. I do think that Kane would increase his output for City whilst Haaland and Mbappe would likely see a reduction in theirs playing at a higher level.
 
If city are signing Grealish, they will most likely not go for Kane unless they can sell some assets. These assets won’t just go to any team city wishes hence they will most likely stay.

Next year we’ll have to fight city for Haaland if they win everything this season or go close to it. Haaland will consider them as good as us if not more. Those days are gone where players would blindly pick us. All the players that have gone to city so far don’t really care about their history. Trophies matter a lot.

We’d have to give a solid fight this season for Haaland to even think we’re a better fit.
 
Kane is a highly technical player though?
Yeah but he isn’t going to dribble his way through defenders and out run anyone because he’s slows as anything. He’s a striker that tends to be in the box more, it was only last season he started dropping deep which is where all his assist came from. I just don’t see him as a pep striker but who knows.
 
Yeah but he isn’t going to dribble his way through defenders and out run anyone because he’s slows as anything. He’s a striker that tends to be in the box more, it was only last season he started dropping deep which is where all his assist came from. I just don’t see him as a pep striker but who knows.
Does Pep like his strikers to be explosive dribblers? My impression was that he favours a technically proficient target man (like Lewandowski at Bayern)
 
Yeah but he isn’t going to dribble his way through defenders and out run anyone because he’s slows as anything. He’s a striker that tends to be in the box more, it was only last season he started dropping deep which is where all his assist came from. I just don’t see him as a pep striker but who knows.
Honestly I think he’s about the best fit for a Pep striker I’ve seen, even more so than Aguero. Aguero was far more of a box striker and he didn’t get involved much in the build up. Kane doesn’t need pace because his hold up play, vision, passing and of course finishing are all world class. On paper he’s a match made in heaven but the hope is perhaps Kane’s injuries will affect him slightly. I think he would score a she’d load for city unfortunately.
 
Yeah but he isn’t going to dribble his way through defenders and out run anyone because he’s slows as anything. He’s a striker that tends to be in the box more, it was only last season he started dropping deep which is where all his assist came from. I just don’t see him as a pep striker but who knows.
And the fact that his partner in crime, Son, outperformed his npxG by 72% inflating Harry's assist numbers.
 
His expected assists were still in the top 7% of Europe's top 5 leagues for players in his position.
Yes, he did have a great season last last year. xA=0,23 is very good for a striker. Very antitypical for him though regarding his sudden assist contribution: 2019/20 season xA=0,08 (29 percentile), 18/19 xA=0,15 (71 percentile), 17/18 xA=0,08 (42 percentile) etc.

Haaland this season: xA=0,21 (87 percentile). Not too shabby for a guy who doesn't fall deep much and likes to be in the box or at the shoulder of the last defender best.
Mbappe did play 6 games in the CL as a center forward last season and scored 4 and assisted 3 in those matches, so he does his business well in that department as well.

Kane is a great player, but he is older, slower, less clinical and in general not at the same tier as the 2 youngsters. He is English though....
 
Yes, he did have a great season last last year. xA=0,23 is very good for a striker. Very antitypical for him though regarding his sudden assist contribution: 2019/20 season xA=0,08 (29 percentile), 18/19 xA=0,15 (71 percentile), 17/18 xA=0,08 (42 percentile) etc.

Haaland this season: xA=0,21 (87 percentile). Not too shabby for a guy who doesn't fall deep much and likes to be in the box or at the shoulder of the last defender best.
Mbappe did play 6 games in the CL as a center forward last season and scored 4 and assisted 3 in those matches, so he does his business well in that department as well.

Kane is a great player, but he is older, slower, less clinical and in general not at the same tier as the 2 youngsters. He is English though....

He also plays in a harder league for a team that isn't in the top 4, something stats often fail to encapsulate.
 
Yes, he did have a great season last last year. xA=0,23 is very good for a striker. Very antitypical for him though regarding his sudden assist contribution: 2019/20 season xA=0,08 (29 percentile), 18/19 xA=0,15 (71 percentile), 17/18 xA=0,08 (42 percentile) etc.

Haaland this season: xA=0,21 (87 percentile). Not too shabby for a guy who doesn't fall deep much and likes to be in the box or at the shoulder of the last defender best.
Mbappe did play 6 games in the CL as a center forward last season and scored 4 and assisted 3 in those matches, so he does his business well in that department as well.

Kane is a great player, but he is older, slower, less clinical and in general not at the same tier as the 2 youngsters. He is English though....

You're talking about players in different leagues though. The French league is a million miles off the English league in the UEFA coefficients, it was actually ranked the 8th best league last season even below Scotland! The German league is a good step up from that but have you ever watched it? Many of the teams play with high lines and it's very kind to attacking players.

Kane's role has gradually been changing over the years and last season he was very much a hybrid 9/10. I think at City you'll see an improvment in his games in creating and assisting (maybe not as many assists). Of course this is an opinion but perhaps we'll get a chance to find out if it's accurate.

Mbappe and Haaland may well prove to have been better players when all is said and done but in this case it's easy to see why City want Kane for their 9 position over the other two.
 
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He's staying this summer. City would have to cough up an astronomical fee for Levy to sell, and it doesn't seem like they're prepared to do that. I think Levy is quite content to wait this out as he holds all the cards. Can't wait to watch Kane take a massive slice of humble pie stepping out for Spurs the day after the transfer window slams shut :drool:
 
He also plays in a harder league for a team that isn't in the top 4, something stats often fail to encapsulate.
Other than against us, City, Liverpool and Chelsea, Spurs should be in the driverseat and be the better team/squad against all the other teams in the league. Thats 30 matches a season where they have the better squad. No need to downplay that. I guess you even thought you had a shot at the title in November/December last year. Spurs has just not played their cards very well the last couple of seasons.

Except the 2 goals and 1 assist against us in the infamous 6-1 match, Harry scored 0 goal and assisted 1 against the top 4 last season, including the cup matches he played against Chelsea and City. He's never won a trophy and has failed to deliver when it really matters. What makes everyone think that suddenly changes if he signs for us or City?
 
Other than against us, City, Liverpool and Chelsea, Spurs should be in the driverseat and be the better team/squad against all the other teams in the league. Thats 30 matches a season where they have the better squad. No need to downplay that. I guess you even thought you had a shot at the title in November/December last year. Spurs has just not played their cards very well the last couple of seasons.

Except the 2 goals and 1 assist against us in the infamous 6-1 match, Harry scored 0 goal and assisted 1 against the top 4 last season, including the cup matches he played against Chelsea and City. He's never won a trophy and has failed to deliver when it really matters. What makes everyone think that suddenly changes if he signs for us or City?

What has that got to do with anything? And no I have never went into a season thinking we will win a league. You then pick last season, our worst some time to pick out Harry's goals.

Because he is playing under Pep, in one of the best teams in Europe where he wont be the focus for all goals.
 
You're talking about players in different leagues though. The French league is a million miles off the English league in the UEFA coefficients, it was actually ranked the 8th best league last season even below Scotland! The German league is a good step up from that but have you ever watched it? Many of the teams play with high lines and it's very kind to attacking players.

Kane's role has gradually been changing over the years and last season he was very much a hybrid 9/10. I think at City you'll see an improvment in his games in creating and assisting (maybe not as many assists). Of course this is an opinion but perhaps we'll get a chance to find out if it's true.

Mbappe and Haaland may well prove to have been better players when all is said and done but in this case it's easy to see why City want Kane for their 9 position over the other two.
Kane played against Lokomotiv Plovdiv, Shkendija, Maccabi Haifa, Royal Antwerp, Ludogorets and failed to get Spurs past Zagreb (with a squadvalue of 115M total) in Europa, while the other 2 were 1. and 2. on the topscorer-list in the Champions League. Spurs played 30 matches in the PL last season against teams where they on paper have the better squad.

I've watched 80% of the matches Haaland has played for Dortmund. He scored 8 and assisted 1 in 5 games against the 2 best teams in Germany, Bayern and RB Leipzig, in League and cup last season and was topscorer in champions league (10 goals in 8 matches) for a team that exited in the quarters. Should be no need to down play this.

Can't argue against the quality of the bottom 10-14 teams in France though. Mbappe still delivered against the top teams and in CL (8 goals, 3 assists in 10 matches)