Harry Kane | "I will be staying at Tottenham this summer and will be 100% focused on helping the team achieve success."

Unpopular opinion: I think Harry Kane is a bit overrated among people who views him as a top 3 striker in the world. I've noticed how some even argues Kane is the world's best striker ahead of Lewandowski, which is obviously a ridiculous claim. At this point, Kane is just living off his past reputation. There's many strikers who are better finishers than Kane while playing fewer minutes.

2020-21 league season

- Robert Lewandowski: 41 goals (32.08 expected goals) while playing 2467 minutes
- André Silva: 28 goals (25.60 xG) while playing 2787 minutes
- Erling Haaland: 27 goals (23.60 xG) while playing 2416 minutes
- Cristiano Ronaldo: 29 goals (29.84 xG) while playing 2807 minutes
- Romelu Lukaku: 24 goals (23.43 xG) while playing 2885 minutes
- Gerard Moreno: 23 goals (19.53 xG) while playing 2680 minutes
- Karim Benzema: 23 goals (19.45 xG) while playing 2914 minutes
- Harry Kane: 23 goals (22.17 xG) while playing 3097 minutes

And before anyone brings up Kane's 14 assists, he was playing with a phenomenal finisher in Son Heung-Min. He made 17 despite an xG of 11.02.

I'm sure Kane wouldn't get anywhere near same amount of assists if he played with a terrible finisher up-front. Like Vinicius Jr, Werner etc.
 
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Drygon said:
Unpopular opinion: I think Harry Kane is a bit overrated among people who views him as a top 3 striker in the world. I've noticed how some even argues Kane is the world's best striker ahead of Lewandowski, which is obviously a ridiculous claim. At this point, Kane is just living off his past reputation. There's many strikers who are better finishers than Kane while playing fewer minutes.

2020-21 league season

- Robert Lewandowski: 41 goals (32.08 expected goals) while playing 2467 minutes
- André Silva: 28 goals (25.60 xG) while playing 2787 minutes
- Erling Haaland: 27 goals (23.60 xG) while playing 2416 minutes
- Cristiano Ronaldo: 29 goals (29.84 xG) while playing 2807 minutes
- Romelu Lukaku: 24 goals (23.43 xG) while playing 2885 minutes
- Gerard Moreno: 23 goals (19.53 xG) while playing 2680 minutes
- Karim Benzema: 23 goals (19.45 xG) while playing 2914 minutes
- Harry Kane: 23 goals (22.17 xG) while playing 3097 minutes

And before anyone brings up Kane's 14 assists, he was playing with a phenomenal finisher in Son Heung-Min. He made 17 despite an xG of 11.02.

I'm sure Kane wouldn't get anywhere near same amount of assists if he played with a terrible finisher up-front. Like Vinicius Jr, Werner etc.
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I think Kane looks a carthorse as often as he looks "world class", but your stats are woefully ignoring the fact he's playing for a duff team in Tottenham, whereas all of the others you list play for one of, if not the best team in their league.
 
He will score goals but he looks very sluggish compared to three years ago.
Spending £120m on him is a risk only an oil club can take.
 
Sandikan said:
I think Kane looks a carthorse as often as he looks "world class", but your stats are woefully ignoring the fact he's playing for a duff team in Tottenham, whereas all of the others you list play for one of, if not the best team in their league.
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Eh, teammates has nothing to do with someone's level of finishing.
 
Drygon said:
Eh, teammates has nothing to do with someone's level of finishing.
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The guy has quoted the goals those players scored. How many more chances would he get and thus score in better teams?
 
Drygon said:
Unpopular opinion: I think Harry Kane is a bit overrated among people who views him as a top 3 striker in the world. I've noticed how some even argues Kane is the world's best striker ahead of Lewandowski, which is obviously a ridiculous claim. At this point, Kane is just living off his past reputation. There's many strikers who are better finishers than Kane while playing fewer minutes.

2020-21 league season

- Robert Lewandowski: 41 goals (32.08 expected goals) while playing 2467 minutes
- André Silva: 28 goals (25.60 xG) while playing 2787 minutes
- Erling Haaland: 27 goals (23.60 xG) while playing 2416 minutes
- Cristiano Ronaldo: 29 goals (29.84 xG) while playing 2807 minutes
- Romelu Lukaku: 24 goals (23.43 xG) while playing 2885 minutes
- Gerard Moreno: 23 goals (19.53 xG) while playing 2680 minutes
- Karim Benzema: 23 goals (19.45 xG) while playing 2914 minutes
- Harry Kane: 23 goals (22.17 xG) while playing 3097 minutes

And before anyone brings up Kane's 14 assists, he was playing with a phenomenal finisher in Son Heung-Min. He made 17 despite an xG of 11.02.

I'm sure Kane wouldn't get anywhere near same amount of assists if he played with a terrible finisher up-front. Like Vinicius Jr, Werner etc.
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I hate Kane but he had the best minutes per goal ratio in the premier league only behind Bale(barely played) and Ihaenacho. I'm not sure how you can claim that doesn't put him in with the best in the world.
 
Kane can't go he wouldn't want to disappoint Nuno Holy Spirit. Not looking good for him, City will need to cough up a huge sums to price him away.
 
Drygon said:
Unpopular opinion: I think Harry Kane is a bit overrated among people who views him as a top 3 striker in the world. I've noticed how some even argues Kane is the world's best striker ahead of Lewandowski, which is obviously a ridiculous claim. At this point, Kane is just living off his past reputation. There's many strikers who are better finishers than Kane while playing fewer minutes.

2020-21 league season

- Robert Lewandowski: 41 goals (32.08 expected goals) while playing 2467 minutes
- André Silva: 28 goals (25.60 xG) while playing 2787 minutes
- Erling Haaland: 27 goals (23.60 xG) while playing 2416 minutes
- Cristiano Ronaldo: 29 goals (29.84 xG) while playing 2807 minutes
- Romelu Lukaku: 24 goals (23.43 xG) while playing 2885 minutes
- Gerard Moreno: 23 goals (19.53 xG) while playing 2680 minutes
- Karim Benzema: 23 goals (19.45 xG) while playing 2914 minutes
- Harry Kane: 23 goals (22.17 xG) while playing 3097 minutes

And before anyone brings up Kane's 14 assists, he was playing with a phenomenal finisher in Son Heung-Min. He made 17 despite an xG of 11.02.

I'm sure Kane wouldn't get anywhere near same amount of assists if he played with a terrible finisher up-front. Like Vinicius Jr, Werner etc.
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It's unfair to compare Kane with Vinicius or Werner. They're both players with good athleticism but poor finishing. Kane basically has poor athleticism but good finishing.

Kane's basically got incredible shooting technique, great passing and movement, and really good understanding with the spurs attackers. He's not fast but is used to finding space at the edge of the box/just inside the box because of how quick Spurs are on the break.

I'm not sure he deals with pressure that well - for a striker with such a big reputation, he doesn't score that many vital goals in big games against big teams. He's also got a system built around him at Spurs. He's a slow starter, he has at least one injury per season, and he needs to play in certain positions with certain types of players around him.

All of that is to say that he's still clearly a great player, but I don't think he's as certain a success at City/his next club as lots of people assume. I'd easily prefer Haaland.
 
If he goes to city he will be an absolute beast IMO and score bags of goals every season because they are utterly dominant in most/ all games. Compared to Tottenham it will be like playing training gamed for him... however, this is also the same story for every striker in the world that can finish. They would all do very well for city. Kane has many failings and I’m afraid these are all too clear when England play especially at these euros where he just doesn’t look like scoring OR doing anything to help the team. When he’s not on the ball it’s not like he’s good at getting it back, marking, or creative play (not really). In summary he’s not worth the money Tottenham will demand for the move.. IMO I have no idea why you would get Kane over haaland but there you go. The age thing along is enough.
 
Get the feeling Kane will stay at Spurs for 12 more months and just live off the glory if England win the euros, less desperate to move if he's actually got a major trophy even if it's not at club level.

Two years left on his deal and then surely some sort of deal would be agreed.

Imagine him winning more with England than at club level, only Spurs. :lol:
 
The moment that changed Harry’s tournament.

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FootballHQ said:
Get the feeling Kane will stay at Spurs for 12 more months and just live off the glory if England win the euros, less desperate to move if he's actually got a major trophy even if it's not at club level.

Two years left on his deal and then surely some sort of deal would be agreed.

Imagine him winning more with England than at club level, only Spurs. :lol:
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Worked for Gordon Banks and George Cohen
 
I was slagging him off earlier in the tournament. Fair play, can admit that it does look like it was mostly a confidence issue.
 
ReddBalls said:
Or Ukraine is just not that good.
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Bit of both. You gotta be in the positions to score or miss. Earlier in the competition Kane looked sluggish, wasn't arriving in the box at the right moments, was taking snap shots. Looks more likely to take a chance now than a few weeks ago.
 
That goal vs Germany was huge. It seemed to transform him and its perfect timing for England.
 
I wouldn't be so sure Kane would be a hit at City.

In the past, we have seen some strikers signed by english clubs for a huge amount of money and it didn't turn out so well. Sometimes the price tag can increase the pressure.

Obviously each player has their own way of dealing with things mentally. But in general, a couple of failed big money signings come to mind.
 
Wouldn't get too excited by anything seen tonight. Arguably the worst defence in tournament and collapsed completely for second half. As close to a training match as is possible in an international tournament.

Will probably score against Denmark too, but if Italy make the final he might benefit from the confidence building ties leading to it
 
I think he’s still in the excitement and adrenaline of being in the tournament with England. Once that’s over, he goes back to Spurs and will realise again how bleak it is over there at the club. Don’t think he fancies so much playing under Nuno
 
He doesn't exactly have his pick of clubs that can afford him, its either City or Chelsea.
 
Luke1995 said:
I wouldn't be so sure Kane would be a hit at City.

In the past, we have seen some strikers signed by english clubs for a huge amount of money and it didn't turn out so well. Sometimes the price tag can increase the pressure.
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I have doubts too. He's obviously a very good striker and would score buckets of goals for City, against teams they already score buckets of goals against. He's a great finisher but he's not somebody that's going to work to create openings, he needs to ball delivered to him in a place where he can fashion a shot. That doesn't happen often against top defenders. I don't see him being the player who makes the difference in the biggest games for them aka he's not going to win them the Champions League.

This below is a great summary of him as a player imo. His solid top 6 record is bumped up by Arsenal and Leicester, teams hardly known for their stellar defences. It's a long time ago and no detailed stats exist for it, but i felt much the same about Shearer. I think our history would be a lot different had we signed him instead of Cantona.

Rozay said:
To me, Kane has always been easy to mark for top defenders. A defender with speed, strength and a brain. He seems to have few touches and chances against us for example. I’ve said for months (so not a product of him seemingly joining City) that I have concerns about him. By 30/31 - you will barely find him in the box at all I suspect, as he drops deeper and deeper to try and run away from defenders he can’t run away from.
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The more likely scenario is he loses to the much more superior team in Italy, which will give him flashbacks of that League Cup final vs City, and he’s going to want to leave even more.

Or better still, England lose to Denmark which will have a Dinamo Zagreb in the EL feel to it, and will add salt to the Spurs wounds he’s endured over the years.
 
Isn’t the most likely scenario that Kane now realizes his hand isn’t that strong and that Levy has the higher card? The interview with Gary Neville was Kane’s big move and it’s not enough.
 
His hand has never been that strong. Just a terrible decision to sign such a long term contract with no get out clause. He’d need to more or less down tools to force an exit.
 
Doracle said:
His hand has never been that strong. Just a terrible decision to sign such a long term contract with no get out clause. He’d need to more or less down tools to force an exit.
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Exactly, he Zaha'd himself. I'll never understand how these player's agents can't see the big picture and advise them to maybe lose some money for a year to not only gain the freedom to chose but even more money through wages/signing bonus at a bigger club. Even if Tottenham won the Champion's League, you just know they would not be able to compete long term with United and City every single year...
It's looking more and more likely that he's going to be stuck at Spurs for at least one more year.
 
11101 said:
I have doubts too. He's obviously a very good striker and would score buckets of goals for City, against teams they already score buckets of goals against. He's a great finisher but he's not somebody that's going to work to create openings, he needs to ball delivered to him in a place where he can fashion a shot. That doesn't happen often against top defenders. I don't see him being the player who makes the difference in the biggest games for them aka he's not going to win them the Champions League.

This below is a great summary of him as a player imo. His solid top 6 record is bumped up by Arsenal and Leicester, teams hardly known for their stellar defences. It's a long time ago and no detailed stats exist for it, but i felt much the same about Shearer. I think our history would be a lot different had we signed him instead of Cantona.
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Well, City's team is much better than Shearer's Newcastle so I guess if Kane were to join City he could even eventually get Shearer's PL goalscoring record

But I don't know man, I think peak Kane was 2017-18 season. He's still class, but not quite that beast he was a few years ago. So he could struggle at least initially.

Anyways, still feel like he is going to stay at Spurs next season.
 
Signing that big contract at Spurs was certainly a debatable move at the time, though granted Spurs were looking competitive and stable during that period

Also obviously need to factor in the current Covid climate.
 
It’s better he accepts his fate now and gets on with it. Signing that contract was binding and his chairmen didn’t even let the like of Eric Dier leave when his value was high.

It’s better he just accepts it and gets on with it now. Focuses on his individual goals and looks at the bright side (will always start, club legend etc…)
 
I think Levy is going to be the one that comes out of this looking worst. While people are saying currently “Kane shouldn’t have signed that contract”, the same people will be saying “Levy had the chance to get over £100m for him, he was stupid to push for £150m when the signs were there that he’s physically degrading”.
 
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