I agree it's a long shot, but the market isn't exactly favourable at the moment. They could sign deals with caveats, release clauses that may kick in if they don't qualify for the CL, and it could still make a lot of sense for Spurs if the clauses are high enough. But with Sterling it seems a no-go due to his wages.
Harry Kane | "I will be staying at Tottenham this summer and will be 100% focused on helping the team achieve success."
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I agree it's a long shot, but the market isn't exactly favourable at the moment. They could sign deals with caveats, release clauses that may kick in if they don't qualify for the CL, and it could still make a lot of sense for Spurs if the clauses are high enough. But with Sterling it seems a no-go due to his wages.
Or instead of going to spurs have the pick of a dozen clubs not named Man Utd or Liverpool.
theres a reason why swap deals are difficult.
if city want to get rid of these players, their agents will be looking at all possibilities, not just spurs - all of the players mentioned as possible exchanges are very sellable, so whilst spurs might be an option it’s one of many - so it’s unlikely that they would want to go there.
I'm bullish on Mason but not that bullish!
Back to Kane though: even with the limitations you see him having, he has enough quality that they can be minimized within the tactics of any good manager. The only sticking point is the price: Kane at 50M for example, is a must buy for any club.
Its not just about money though. These are players in or entering their prime years. All of them will be looking upwards and wanting to evolve their careers.
A year out of Europe (proper Europe) to go to a club with massive debt, low wages and a reputation for winning nothing just isn’t going to happen for these players.
Laporte would be a key player at any other club in the world that isn’t saturated by oil money. He isn’t going to spend his prime years at Spurs playing next to Matt Doherty. Absolutely no chance.
Is Laporte that good ? I see he is behind Stones at City and couldn’t get a game for France.
He had an inconsistent season but is still quality. Had some personal issue with Deschamps I think.
He's a top class centerback. Had a bad knee injury and Stones was doing well enough as a partner to Laporte so was a no need to change situation. The year before Laporte was their key defender. He's a much better CB generally. For France, Deschamps had something against him and they have Varane who has been one of the best in the world for years now.
It's the same regurgitated nonsense. Romano ! Don't make me laugh. People like him will post anything for clicks. It's how his world works.
It's 'journalists' putting 2+2 together and coming up with 22. Sterling, Laporte and Jesus not getting game time at City, throw the names in the mix.
The facts are those 3 players, if they are to leave City, will be looking at top tier clubs not Spurs.Their combined salaries are probably in the region of £600k pw. Sterling is almost certainly on more than Kane is at Spurs. Spurs need to reduce their costs not add to them.
None of those City players will be playing at Spurs next season and I really don't think Kane will be at City either.
It is clear that most of the speculation that you read about any transfer is made up bollocks.
Yeah I agree. I really don't see him aging gracefully like Lewandowski for example, and while as you say he'll have his vision and technique with his shooting, it's not like he is very agile or a runner with the ball that can make space on his own. He'll just get less and less involved in games. I never worry much about Kane when he plays United because he's easy to mark out as you say. He's a brilliant goalscorer but how many more brilliant goalscorer years does he have left? He doesn't have enough to his game to really change enough IMO. He's not a physical beast that outmuscles defenders, doesn't have much pace, so when he loses that bit of sharpness then it'll be a much sharper decline IMO, at least in the premier league. Would have to turn into a trequartista in Serie A or something.
You don’t believe Mase can become a world class striker?
As for Kane, I think he’s a brilliant striker, although like most players, not perfect. His performances at the Euros so far are not surprising to me, for instance. I see them as relatively typical Kane performances when he finds himself in big games or against difficult teams/opposition. That’s his average performance level vs United, with the exception of the odd game where we are going through a spell of being shite and are massive underdogs against Spurs. What often happens is that he’ll go and score 4 against Sheffield United the following week though.
Kane for 50m is an absolute must buy, you can’t get better. Kane for 150m will still get a shit load of goals for City, at least at first, but not for too long I suspect. I see the Rooney in him personally. His finishing will always be great, but as time goes on, he’ll find it harder and harder to earn the right to finish. His half a yard will be closed down by sharp, athletic defenders, there’s no acceleration to get away, no real drop of the shoulder etc. In a game where his team is dominant and the opposition is pulled apart, he’ll get openings and score goals though.
I’d much rather Haaland than him, personally. Both can finish, but I feel Haaland has more tools to earn himself the right to finish, such as speed, aggression and strength. It’s an old cliché in English football that the older you get the deeper you drop. Centre halves drop deeper because they don’t want to engage with physical strikers, and centre forwards drop deeper to avoid physical centre halves. Kane has already started that, at 27, and I don’t see him having reversed that trend by 30.
Like others I'm extremely surprised some people here think any of City's players would take an extremely massive downgrade to a Spurs team that's completely broken and in the Conference League. London factor for them is as relevant as West Ham's who are also in London but NEVER a serious destination for serious players. And that's without mentioning how they'd struggle to pay the wages of any of City's players
City will have to either pay an immoral fee for a 28yr old that's world class with ankle problems(just like Hazard) or walk
City will have to either pay an immoral fee for a 28yr old that's world class with ankle problems(just like Hazard) or walk
Except no one said that they'll agree to play for Spurs. It's that City are thinking of including them in the deal. Whatever they agree and it succeeds or not isn't something they confirmed.
it’s not clear from the article whether that’s £100m cash plus players, or if the £100m figure includes those player values. The fact that the article talks about Kane being valued at £150M by Spurs suggests the latter, since Jesus and Sterling must be worth £50m between them.
It’s £100m cash and player(s) on top of it
I’d be amazed if he got Sterling and Jesus to agree to that but it isn’t exactly out of character for Pep to make such an obviously over the top offer for a striker. What was Zlatan again? 60m plus Eto’o? That was bonkers back in 2009. Spurs would do well to pull that off.
Yes of course. I was just trying to be contrarian. But of course they won't say, "sure, I'll leave Pep's City for managerless Spurs".
If that's the case, why does the article say Spurs would need £150M to look at it? That bid would be worth far more than £150M.
Kane really committed career suicide by signing that ridiculous contract. Such a stupid move, under no pressure, for no reason.
He's either broken or injured. Either way, I'd love nothing more than him to be shite at Spurs or shite at City next season, especially if they spunk 100m on them. Of course that sort of money means nothing to them, but still...funny.
Levy is mad if he turns down £100m + players. We’re seeing an off form, half fit Kane struggling but it’s a bit of a glimpse into what he will be like as his legs and ankles decline. It’s reminding me of Rooney’s later years where he dropped back and stunk out midfield because he didn’t have the quickness of step required around the box.
Not sure why, but he looks like an absolute carthorse this tournament. I'm sure we'd see better in the prem at City, but you wouldn't fancy dropping 100m+ on watching his last 3 games.
Kane for 100-150 is an insane gamble in my opinion.
The way he's playing for England, I'm not sure if he's even worth £1.50, let alone £150m.
It's not £100m cash. It's cash plus players to the total value of £100m.
Based on the last few games the deal
Should be Sterling to Spurs with Spurs handing over £££ + Kane.
clearly this is knee jerk, but Kane has been Kieran Dyer for England thus far.
Should be Sterling to Spurs with Spurs handing over £££ + Kane.
clearly this is knee jerk, but Kane has been Kieran Dyer for England thus far.
Levy must be praying PLEASE HARRY, KICK IT ONN.
levy would be so idiotic not to sell
levy would be so idiotic not to sell
So you think City are offering players to Spurs without the agreement of said players?
I don't believe any club would treat its highly valuable employees in such a way plus City would surely know, even if they wished it, that the players wouldn't go along with it. It's Spurs after all.
I thought the idea was that centre half's drop deeper because they lose the pace to recover ground fast enough if they get caught out too high up the pitch?
This fraud is being exposed at the Euros. Spurs should simply sell him to us for 70M, before his price goes down.
Because you were correct the first time.
What apparently City offer is £100M which includes the value of one of the players.
Example if Jesus market value is £50M it would be Jesus (£50M) + £50M for Kane like wise if Sterling value was £80M it would be Sterling (£80M) + £20M for Kane. Hence why Spurs rejected the offer.
Don't believe for a second its 100M and players on top of it. It would be a tremendously bad deal.
Getting old and slower, injury prone
A bad signing
A bad signing
Think you're assessing his performances too much on the games against United. His performances in big games are fairly solid, and his record against the top 6 is pretty good. If I remember correctly the two clubs which most of his goals have come against are Leicester and Arsenal.
Maybe, it’s way too early to say..He needs to improve a lot to get to that level. He is young but he’s way behind what the likes of Mbappe & Haaland were at the age. It’s basically unknown right now how high his ceiling is & when he will peak. We’ve seen strikers like Lewandowski & Kane show less at Greenwood’s age & end up world class. It’s too hard to say right now.
Might have gone under the radar but since a short while back, Laporte is playing for the Spanish team, not the French national team. Started all 3 games in Euros so far and scored a goal yesteday!
I know. Was responding to a guy who asked why he didn't get the chance for France
I can see him declining massively
Mason will need to nail down a position before I consider him a future world XI star. we still using him as a RWF
"big 6" record as of January
And here are the top 6 goalscorers:
- Jamie Vardy (Leicester) - 37
- Eden Hazard (Chelsea, Real Madrid) - 29
- Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United, Real Madrid, Juventus) - 28
- Leo Messi (Barcelona) - 26
- Harry Kane (Tottenham) - 26
- Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (Arsenal) - 18
I was including Leicester instead of Tottenham because of him being at Spurs. He loves playing the foxes.
Vardy’s record is incredible but unsurprising.
Surprised Aguero was not there but hazard. Hazard one hell of the game raiser if he wanted to.
Ah, got it. Just thought it was worth mentioning since several posts have been mentioning the fact the Laporte haven't yet played for France in Euro. Just picked your post as one of them to reply to.