Harry Kane | "I will be staying at Tottenham this summer and will be 100% focused on helping the team achieve success."
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This.
People are in denial. You have Perez and the Glazers (heads of the two biggest clubs in the world), and Agnelli (head of a massive team that’s been crushing its league, and has a new stadium), engineering their own league while they still can in an attempt to stay competitive and reign in the oil state clubs.
You also have to laugh when people talk about City’s transfer fees and wages and believe them at face value. How many times do they have to be caught using shell companies, offshore accounts, and creative accounting for people to understand that these numbers leaked in the press mean nothing?
The simplest test is this: watch what happens when City want a player. There is no protracted negotiations, no bidding wars, no back and forth in the media. They go in, sign their player (often for what seems like a good fecking deal!), and it all happens with minimal fuss. Same thing with contract renewals and their players seemingly never being interested in leaving.
It’s really simple, if City want him, they’ll get him. If they don’t want him, or don’t want him enough (like Sanchez), then we might get him. Either way, they will strengthen by buying him or someone else and continue to dominate the league. 5 out of the last 10 league titles, runners up in 3 of the other 5, 8 domestic cups in that period, and for the next 10 years, they are starting from a much stronger position compared to the past 10 years.
I'd love him at United but £130+? Really?
I mean if he was 21 and had his ability now, sure, you could argue its a good long term investment, but if he signs for 5 years at the end of that contract he will be 32 and have almost zero re-sale value.
I know a lot of people will argue "We are United, we shouldn't have to worry about that, we just want the best" but a lot of our rivals have been smart in recent years and bought top players at a younger age who they can now get more money for and re-invest. Mane, Salah, Hazard, De Bruyne, Sterling etc.
Personally I'd do whatever it takes to get Haaland, with inflation and him getting better, you could probably sell him for close to £170m/£180m if you eventually wanted to.
Kane for under £100m with a Martial Swap included. Sure. Kane for £130m+. No Thanks.
I mean if he was 21 and had his ability now, sure, you could argue its a good long term investment, but if he signs for 5 years at the end of that contract he will be 32 and have almost zero re-sale value.
I know a lot of people will argue "We are United, we shouldn't have to worry about that, we just want the best" but a lot of our rivals have been smart in recent years and bought top players at a younger age who they can now get more money for and re-invest. Mane, Salah, Hazard, De Bruyne, Sterling etc.
Personally I'd do whatever it takes to get Haaland, with inflation and him getting better, you could probably sell him for close to £170m/£180m if you eventually wanted to.
Kane for under £100m with a Martial Swap included. Sure. Kane for £130m+. No Thanks.
What an insult. Kane has playmaking abilities Lukaku can just dream about.
Wow.
Levy holds all the cards here so nothing really is going to happen unless Kane forces the issue by putting in a transfer request and publicly declaring his intention to leave. He may also need to go on strike etc.
Knowing his personality, he won’t do any of that and Levy won’t sell him without crazy money and an able replacement. This will drag on till 2022.
Knowing his personality, he won’t do any of that and Levy won’t sell him without crazy money and an able replacement. This will drag on till 2022.
Hotspur will finish midtablish with or without him.
120m for a 28 years old dwindling asset is a good deal.
What's 2 or 3 more season of kane brings? A meassle top 6 finish? Better cash in fast. That 120m worth alot more being spent on several player than an ageing strike
that's it then.
Tbh, I can't see any club that can afford him in this post covid economy other than City. Most clubs would be quite conservative with their spending because they still recovering from the loss they made this season, and they don't know how fast they could return the normalcy next season.
Nobody is paying £150m for him. And from Tottenham's perspective, they should cash in and use the money to refresh the squad with a new coach.
I personally hope we don't get involved because signing him won't improve us due to the weakness at the back and midfield. It's also understandable that Kane wants to play for Guardiola due to City having the best chance of winning the big trophies.
I personally hope we don't get involved because signing him won't improve us due to the weakness at the back and midfield. It's also understandable that Kane wants to play for Guardiola due to City having the best chance of winning the big trophies.
Agree with all of that.
I'm just wondering if City are willing to spend that amount on him given they're not really desperate right now. Although that need may exist if Haaland isn't interested in them.
No one is paying 150m for Kane in a COVID market.
He's a cherry on the cake type player due to the money it will take to sign him. But there's little point us getting involved when the cake is half baked. But that doesn't apply to City because their cake is well baked and the player wants to play for them and their coach Guardiola.
I think we should wait a year and try for Haaland. And hopefully by then, we'll be closer to challenging for the league with Haaland and one more player to arrive.
We probably won't end up with Haaland but I'm hopeful Solskjaer's relationship with him might work in our favour.
Absolutely. I don't think Kane alone wins this team the title. And given his age surely that's why you'd be signing him considering he would take up the entire budget. If you spend the same on other younger players at least you can still target a longer term plan.
It makes more sense signing Sancho because he'd improve our build up phase, which IMO is way more important. Sancho, CB, CM and we'd have had a good window IMO.
Then operation Haaland in 2022.
Agree wholeheartedly but Levy doesn’t operate based on what’s best for Spurs.
Somehow he has the misguided notion of Spurs being rivals with clubs that challenge consistently for the PL and sees selling his players as an acceptance of their lower profile.
That’s why he often holds onto players against their wishes past their sell by date and loses money. His track record for recouping money is really poor.
Buildup is the biggest issue for me. But I don't know how were going to fix that. I see us and from the defensive third to the attacking third, the quality of our passing is, frankly, abysmal.
AWB - not a passer
Fred - inconsistent passr
Mctominay - passes like a CB
Pogba - creative passer when given time and space. Does his work further up the pitch
Bruno - creative passer. Less involved in buildup and more in final third
Rashford - passes like a striker
Greenwood - passes like a striker
Cavani - no use on the buildup
The way I see it Sancho adds some passing quality to our buildup for sure. He's one of the better wingers in terms of link up play etc
But even when it comes to the other addictions - DM, CM, right back, don't you feel this team needs more people who are comfortable in the ball and can link play together and set things up for the final third. Players like Rice /Ndidi will only add to how limited we are, and well coninue to be a clumsy team.
Or do you think it's also down to poor coaching that we have these issues?
He does not fit our counter attacking styles. But him and Rashford and Greenwood on each side. That would be great
I like the “passes like a striker” phrase. I didn’t know how to describe this phenomena before. Completely agree on Mason but think Rash has more creativity about him.
90-100M and i think he's gone. Levy is a businessman and he'll sell to whoever shows him that kind of money. I think we have the financial capability to do this deal but the manager may think we may have other positions to sort out first before a striker
Shout out to the gentlemen who called us names for saying this exact same thing, few pages back.
I still can't decide if we need a CM regista who can control the tempo of a game more or a DM that is able to break up play but also capable of providing quality passes to break the lines
Six for ‘Arry. Plus a keeper. AND keep the bus!
It's a hard pill to swallow for some on here but Kane wants trophies and City guarantee that. It's natural that he would want to play under one of the best managers in the world and win something meaningful.
City will get him and offload some deadwood in exchange
Sancho should be first priority this season.
If Pogba renews his contract, there are good chances our relationship with Raiola will improve and we can then move for Haalaand next season for a much lower fee than Kane's. By that time, Cavani's contract will be over and Haalaand would be perfect replacement.
With Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho and Haalaand, our attack is sorted for next 10 years.
If Pogba renews his contract, there are good chances our relationship with Raiola will improve and we can then move for Haalaand next season for a much lower fee than Kane's. By that time, Cavani's contract will be over and Haalaand would be perfect replacement.
With Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho and Haalaand, our attack is sorted for next 10 years.
Absolutely nailed it.
I agree with this description of City... unfortunately.
Baby I’m a D**kHead, a D**kHead, to youuuuu.
So you got 100 million to spare, Haaland and Kane cost the same...
Smart people will never go for Kane.
Smart people will never go for Kane.
Kane’s a much better fit for Pep as he’s a much more rounded footballer, and price means nothing to them.
I reckon this is Solskjaer being media smart for his own position. He probably knows that we don’t have a huge budget this year so when next season comes and we’ve inevitably not strengthened as much as our rivals, he knows the narrative will be about the Glazers letting him down rather than him being a complicit yet man.
Tottenham won't be declining a £100m+ bid for Kane. If buying clubs (with much bigger pockets than Spurs) are hesitant spending such a huge amount on Kane, then Spurs will be equally wary of rejecting 9 digit bids for their soon to be 28 year old striker. Are 2 or 3 more years of Harry Kane worth rejecting such huge offers for, keeping in mind that they can buy 2 or 3 £40m players to reinvigorate the squad?
I really hope we don't pass up on Sancho to instead go for Kane. Looks like Ole may be pushing for the latter.
Will get him when he is 32-33. Worked with teddy larson Owen zlatan and cavani. Cheaper
Harry Kane is 27, at the top of his game and still has at least 4 very good seasons left. Haaland can be a no-brainer but there's always the risk involved. As a DoF of a top club, going for Harry Kane seems the more logical option, and he also counts as player formed in England which is also an important factor for any English club.
That's not true actually.
Why do people act as if Kane is finished? He is 27, if a PL team needed a ST and had £100m spare, Kane would be a no brainer.
1. PL proven striker
2. 20+ goals season in season out
3. He can play in different systems
4. He is a leader
What makes someone smart to go for Haaland? How many 90 mins of Haaland have you watched?
How good is he at holding the ball up?
How good is he at bringing people into play?