Harry Kane | "I will be staying at Tottenham this summer and will be 100% focused on helping the team achieve success."

He'll be 28 by the time the summer window opens. Feels like he's allowed his career to slip through his fingers somewhat although he was a late bloomer to be fair. Even so, how many more years do we think he has at top level? Could he reach Vardys age and still be effective?
 
groovyalbert said:
Hard to feel too sorry for him. No idea why he signed a contract with them that essentially locked him down for his peak years.

I mean, it's fecking Spurs at the end of the day. Unless he wins trophies, he won't be considered one of the best to have played in the league.

Le Tissier.2 - a nice side-note to the ones people really talk about.
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Shearer won 1 title and is considered the best ever PL forward. I'm sure, with or without trophies, Kane will go down as one of the leagues top, top forwards.

Trophies aren't a criteria for me to judge players on.
 
Rozay said:
I know his strengths, but we need Haaland’s penalty box domination rather than Kane’s creativity. Before we even consider the age difference.
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Kane is probably the best CF in world football outside of Lewandowski.
Haaland is a prolific goalscorer but not much more than that at the moment.
He reminds me a bit of Lukaku. Prolific, but he looks slightly clumsy. There is more risk attached to Haaland than there is to Kane.

We already have a young forward who looks like he may be insanely prolific and complete in his own right in the future.

Kane would also be better suited to the pressure of holding Manchester United's main striker role. Which, as has been noted, is not easy.
 
RedSky said:
He'll be 28 by the time the summer window opens. Feels like he's allowed his career to slip through his fingers somewhat although he was a late bloomer to be fair. Even so, how many more years do we think he has at top level? Could he reach Vardys age and still be effective?
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Its not as if he relies on pace... he has good technique... a nack of finding space and seems to be a natural finisher (unlike say martial)... no reason with thise traits he is going to suffer a massive decline (subject to staying fit etc)

If a 30 year old Keane was available on a Bosman i think there would be plenty of top clubs willing to bring him in for example ... Im not expecting Zlatan like exploits in his 30s but equally Im not expecting michael owen type 30's either
 
UNITED ACADEMY said:
What are you talking about mate? Kane is also penalty box domination. He scores 21 league goals so far this season and proven before he could score 25+ or even 30 league goals per season. Haaland relies on services, the issue why Kane is more suitable than Haaland is because Rashford, Greenwood & Martial are goal scorers means their first instinct most of the time will be shooting not passing/crossing to Haaland.
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Kane plays outside of the box very often. Haaland’s first instinct is to get inside the box. Kane comes short. That doesn’t mean Kane doesn’t score goals - it means he scores a lot of the goals that we don’t struggle to score currently.

He has good numbers, of course. A lot of them are also from penalties, Haaland either doesn’t take them, or when he does, rarely scores them. He is more of a 6-12 yard striker than Kane is. Kane wants to drop deep all the time. Which isn’t even so bad when he plays in a team that doesn’t play with a recognised #10. We do.

Rashford, Martial and Greenwood are not goalscorers first and foremost, and their first instinct isn’t to score goals. If that were the case, we wouldn’t have to force them, beg them and get them all sorts of striking coaches to convince them to get into the box. Their first instinct is to drop deep or drift wide. Kane’s is now to drop deep. Haaland’s is to head directly for the 6 yard box.
 
MattofManchester said:
Kane is probably the best CF in world football outside of Lewandowski.
Haaland is a prolific goalscorer but not much more than that at the moment.
He reminds me a bit of Lukaku. Prolific, but he looks slightly clumsy. There is more risk attached to Haaland than there is to Kane.

We already have a young forward who looks like he may be insanely prolific and complete in his own right in the future.

Kane would also be better suited to the pressure of holding Manchester United's main striker role. Which, as has been noted, is not easy.
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Haaland being a prolific goalscorer is perfectly fine. That is what we need.
 
FrankDrebin said:
Shearer won 1 title and is considered the best ever PL forward. I'm sure, with or without trophies, Kane will go down as one of the leagues top, top forwards.

Trophies aren't a criteria for me to judge players on.
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They definitely influence how highly we rate players historically and top players like Kane are driven to win both at an individual level and as a team. It's what makes them great players. His talent is capable of more than he's achieving with spurs and if he moves to a team that wins the CL or even the prem it will definately represent the pinicle of his career. Doing well at spurs doesnt put him in the top bracket of players in Europe unless he wins trophies with the national team
 
Fair play for staying with Spurs. Loyalty is a rarity in football so I don’t know why people feel the need to criticise him. He’s served his time there though and he probably knows it’s time to move on. That said, I don’t think he’ll be worth it for us. He’s 27 and has question marks over his long-term fitness, paying big money for him would be too big a gamble I believe.
 
Rozay said:
Kane plays outside of the box very often. Haaland’s first instinct is to get inside the box. Kane comes short. That doesn’t mean Kane doesn’t score goals - it means he scores a lot of the goals that we don’t struggle to score currently.

He has good numbers, of course. A lot of them are also from penalties, Haaland either doesn’t take them, or when he does, rarely scores them. He is more of a 6-12 yard striker than Kane is. Kane wants to drop deep all the time. Which isn’t even so bad when he plays in a team that doesn’t play with a recognised #10. We do.

Rashford, Martial and Greenwood are not goalscorers first and foremost, and their first instinct isn’t to score goals. If that were the case, we wouldn’t have to force them, beg them and get them all sorts of striking coaches to convince them to get into the box. Their first instinct is to drop deep or drift wide. Kane’s is now to drop deep. Haaland’s is to head directly for the 6 yard box.
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What you said basically tells everything why Kane is more suitable in tactical view because that's how our striker operates because we have Greenwood & Rashford when they play wide, they can run into space that our striker created. Cavani also does this too, tends to drop deep. This is why Haaland will not be at his best and less ideal than Kane if the wide players are Rashford, Martial, & Greenwood. If we have Sancho instead then Haaland would be much more ideal than Kane.
 
RedSky said:
He'll be 28 by the time the summer window opens. Feels like he's allowed his career to slip through his fingers somewhat although he was a late bloomer to be fair. Even so, how many more years do we think he has at top level? Could he reach Vardys age and still be effective?
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No he's a bit of a sicknote already
 
Zen86 said:
Fair play for staying with Spurs. Loyalty is a rarity in football so I don’t know why people feel the need to criticise him.
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I feel like a lot of the posts are concerning the weirdly long contract. There was no reason for it to be so long, he could have stayed loyal and looked after his own interests a bit better.
 
RedSky said:
He'll be 28 by the time the summer window opens. Feels like he's allowed his career to slip through his fingers somewhat although he was a late bloomer to be fair. Even so, how many more years do we think he has at top level? Could he reach Vardys age and still be effective?
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His injuries will catch up with him, personally with his style of play I think he will be pretty much done by 33/34. Unless he reverts to being a straightforward up top poacher. I know that's 6 years away, but even still the outlay to get him now might not be worth it.

If you look at Vardy he started at the top later and has less top level miles on the clock than most players his age. That's why he still looks a lot fresher than most players his age.
 
UNITED ACADEMY said:
What you said basically tells everything why Kane is more suitable in tactical view because that's how our striker operates because we have Greenwood & Rashford when they play wide, they can run into space that our striker created. Cavani also does this too, tends to drop deep. This is why Haaland will not be at his best and less ideal than Kane if the wide players are Rashford, Martial, & Greenwood. If we have Sancho instead then Haaland would be much more ideal than Kane.
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We don’t have Sancho but we have Bruno. And Pogba. We don’t need a #9 trying to be a #10.
 
If he's even slightly available then City will pay the earth to get him. They don't care about resale. They're perfectly capable of playing the wages. He fits perfectly how city want to play the game. He couldn't be any more perfect for them. Plus they pretty much guarantee trophies. I think it would be a massive surprise, assuming Kane is available, that he would go anywhere else. Don't want him to mind.
 
Rozay said:
We don’t have Sancho but we have Bruno. And Pogba. We don’t need a #9 trying to be a #10.
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The fact we only have Bruno & Pogba sums it up. One injured or rested, we are fecked, Haaland won't get enough services. That's why Kane is more ideal than Haaland for what we have right now. Kane is much more like RVP not ''trying'' to be no 10, he's just very good at both.
 
I think he will leave Spurs, but i can't see it being this summer simply because he's priced out of the market. Levy is going to ask for a astronomical fee for him and I can't see who's going to pay it. Realistically, the only teams in the world who can pay that sort of money for one player are PSG and City. I don't think PSG are going in for him and i don't think he would go there, and not sure about City. Maybe i can see it happening, but they typically don't spend that amount of money on one player. So i think we're looking at a situation where he will have to run down his contract for a bit and go for a little cheaper, at which point he'll be around 30.

Now, I think Kane at 30 is still a very good player and speaking as a United fan i'd have him at that age no problem. But yeah, i don't see anyway he's leaving this summer unless Levy accepts a much lower fee. And that isn't going to happen.
 
backofthenet said:
If he's even slightly available then City will pay the earth to get him. They don't care about resale. They're perfectly capable of playing the wages. He fits perfectly how city want to play the game. He couldn't be any more perfect for them. Plus they pretty much guarantee trophies. I think it would be a massive surprise, assuming Kane is available, that he would go anywhere else. Don't want him to mind.
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I think the only thing that I can see that would stop that is if they can get Haaland - i could see City prioratising Haaland simply for the longevity - i do agree that in the short term thoug Kane would be a great fit for them and if him and KDB formed a good unsertanding then hes gonna score a ton
 
cyberman said:
This is all a bluff. He likes being a big fish in a small pond and only says this type of nonsense every once in a while to pretend hes a winner.
He knows hecant leave, or doesnt want to leave, so out comes the hardened winner spiel
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I actually think this is true. If he so wants to leave, put in a transfer request which he will not
 
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BusbyMalone said:
I think he will leave Spurs, but i can't see it being this summer simply because he's priced out of the market. Levy is going to ask for a astronomical fee for him and I can't see who's going to pay it. Realistically, the only teams in the world who can pay that sort of money for one player are PSG and City. I don't think PSG are going in for him and i don't think he would go there, and not sure about City. Maybe i can see it happening, but they typically don't spend that amount of money on one player. So i think we're looking at a situation where he will have to run down his contract for a bit and go for a little cheaper, at which point he'll be around 30.

Now, I think Kane at 30 is still a very good player and speaking as a United fan i'd have him at that age no problem. But yeah, i don't see anyway he's leaving this summer unless Levy accepts a much lower fee. And that isn't going to happen.
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Levy might have learned from Dele Alli that sometimes cashing in on a player is a good move.
 
Too expensive. Would rather spend all the money on Haaland or even more.
 
thegregster said:
Levy might have learned from Dele Alli that sometimes cashing in on a player is a good move.
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Yeah, but it's how MUCH he wants to cash in for is the problem. He's going to want a huge fee. He knows this isn't an ordinary player he's getting rid of here. He's going to want £120m +
 
It's not like we are actually getting Kane or Haaland but we would get the same years out of them imo.

Sure Kane doesn't have any sell on value but with Haaland you just know Raiola will try to move him on after couple of years and I'd rather have more complete player in his peak for those couple of years.
 
Mr. Ant said:
It's not like we are actually getting Kane or Haaland but we would get the same years out of them imo.
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I'm sticking to my belief that the transfer will largely weigh in how Harry Kane approaches this.
Is he ambitious enough, or does he remain at a failing club?
If he starts throwing his toys out, Levy will be forced into a position he's not been in before.
Unless he intends to only let Kane go on a free, which as a businessman, he is unlikely to do.
 
adexkola said:
He's not "trying", he's been excellent at both roles. But I don't see why he can't stay up and be a more traditional #9 if it helps the team.
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He has, and he has needed to be - as he plays in a team that doesn’t play with a #10. I’m sure he can make the transition and play as a traditional 9 - I’m just saying that I think Haaland is better/more suited to it than him.
 
MattofManchester said:
I'm sticking to my belief that the transfer will largely weigh in how Harry Kane approaches this.
Is he ambitious enough, or does he remain at a failing club?
If he starts throwing his toys out, Levy will be forced into a position he's not been in before.
Unless he intends to only let Kane go on a free, which as a businessman, he is unlikely to do.
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Levy could still price him out of the move. I mean they had to pay millions to sack Mourinho, they still didn't sell naming rights of the stadium and are no longer super league club and they will have no champions league.

Kane deserves a move after all he's done at spurs but Levy will only sell if the offer is good enough and I'm not sure if there is a club that will offer that much during covid.
 
Left it too late and COVID recovery in football now means no one has the money to pay his worth.....
 
Kane, Bruno, Greenwood and Rashford would be a tasty front line but I am not even attempting to get my hopes up. Levy will make this deal impossible.
 
You lot would be mad if you don't even attempt to sign him. Especially if man City are sniffing around him too.
 
Litch said:
Left it too late and COVID recovery in football now means no one has the money to pay his worth.....
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Levy is a smart man, he won't want to keep an unmotivated asset and risk damaging the dressing room.

Sign him and we'll properly challenge, simple as that
 
Rozay said:
Haaland being a prolific goalscorer is perfectly fine. That is what we need.
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I would think he would be a lot more in demand and clubs will be going after him with everything they've got.
RedSky said:
He'll be 28 by the time the summer window opens. Feels like he's allowed his career to slip through his fingers somewhat although he was a late bloomer to be fair. Even so, how many more years do we think he has at top level? Could he reach Vardys age and still be effective?
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For some reason I always thought he was older. I think we could get a good 5 years from him and his experience in the PL is definitely a plus.
 
Rozay said:
I’d much prefer £150m for Haaland than Kanye.

Haaland is significantly younger, but he is also rapid, which helps our current counter-attacking favour, and also more of a penalty box striker, rather than some sort of pseudo midfielder. One of the issues we have is players not occupying the right areas, unless Cavani is playing. I see Haaland as more suited to this role. He won’t be trying to play as a 10. He’ll be in the box. And when we want to sit deep - he’d be devastating on the counter. Haaland suits us better than Kane and Kane suits City better than us.

Kane will get us more goals for sure, but he’d also take Bruno’s penalties off him so the net gain won’t be THAT much from a Cavani or a Martial of last season.
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I wonder how much of that is Kane having been forced to play that role, as Spurs haven't a creative bone in their body, and how much is Kane's own want in the same way Rooney loved to do that. If it's the former, that's fine - the onus then becomes on him to simply score goals here and the likes of PP and Bruno can do the heavy lifting outside the box. If it's the latter, then it may simply need to be a tactical tweak he would need to make.

I also think you're downplaying Haaland's flaws a little there whilst highlighting Kane's. Haaland's an absolute demon in the counter and against these Bundesliga FM-tier high press lines, but naturally he'll have plenty of games against the fodder in the league where there will be absolutely no room for him to run into. Those are the games where Kane will have the better impact.

I honestly think it's much of a muchness between them - obviously both are completely different profiles (the age thing isn't really a point) but you're guaranteed quality from either player.
 
RedSky said:
He'll be 28 by the time the summer window opens. Feels like he's allowed his career to slip through his fingers somewhat although he was a late bloomer to be fair. Even so, how many more years do we think he has at top level? Could he reach Vardys age and still be effective?
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The two best strikers in world football are 32 and 33.

We wouldn't need to worry about whether Harry Kane can still play football to the highest level in 7 years time. He will be able to play at the very top for the amount of time his prospective buying club would contract him to when they sign him, and that's what matters.
 
Nothing to see here.
3 years left on the deal, 28 in the summer, would take 100m and just isn't happening in any shape or form.

We need to stick to the Sancho plan I think. Hopefully at a much less silly price than last summer.
 
This summer or at most next summer is the most valuable he'll ever be. So levy need to act this year or next year. After that age and contract situation will halve the fee.

I prefer Kane personally. He will improve our team play and shoulder some creative burden. In any case we are getting neither.
 
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