Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

[Huddsred]

How I wish we could sign Harry. He is not only a goal scoring machine, but a complete footballer with great vision that would fit the systems of switching positions.

He's not a winner, and he's not a complete footballer as he goes missing far too often. He scores against City then is totally anonymous against Leicester so much so that he might as well not be on the pitch. That's Kane all over and it's why we shouldn't sign him. He's always been like that and he'll never change.

 

[croadyman]

He's not a winner, and he's not a complete footballer as he goes missing far too often in big games. That's why we shouldn't sign him. He will hopefully stay at Spurs.

Who would be your choice?

 

[Trequartistry]

He's not a winner, and he's not a complete footballer as he goes missing far too often. He scores against City then is totally anonymous against Leicester so much so that he might as well not be on the pitch. That's Kane all over and it's why we shouldn't sign him. He's always been like that and he'll never change.

And that’s exactly how he’s got his 267 Premier League goals?

 

[Bebestation]

He's not a winner, and he's not a complete footballer as he goes missing far too often. He scores against City then is totally anonymous against Leicester so much so that he might as well not be on the pitch. That's Kane all over and it's why we shouldn't sign him. He's always been like that and he'll never change.

Absolute bullshit. Spurs lost because they played forster in goal instead of lloris

 

[francobaresi]

He's not a winner, and he's not a complete footballer as he goes missing far too often. He scores against City then is totally anonymous against Leicester so much so that he might as well not be on the pitch. That's Kane all over and it's why we shouldn't sign him. He's always been like that and he'll never change.

What a load of nonsense

 

[Mainoldo]

He's not a winner, and he's not a complete footballer as he goes missing far too often. He scores against City then is totally anonymous against Leicester so much so that he might as well not be on the pitch. That's Kane all over and it's why we shouldn't sign him. He's always been like that and he'll never change.

So which ‘winner’ striker do you want?

 

[DWelbz19]

He's not a winner, and he's not a complete footballer as he goes missing far too often. He scores against City then is totally anonymous against Leicester so much so that he might as well not be on the pitch. That's Kane all over and it's why we shouldn't sign him. He's always been like that and he'll never change.

The winner thing aside, the point about his anonymous performances going under the radar is definitely worth raising — nobody really gives a feck about Spurs and only truly pay attention whenever Kane is on the scoresheet, so there are times where his poor performances don’t get picked up.

That being said, Kane’s scored in 16 of 23 PL matches he’s played in this season. That’s pretty good going. He’s only blanked 7 times. For comparison sake his two competitors for the golden boot: Haaland has blanked 5 times and Toney 11 times.

 

[Redfrog]

So you pray that one of the finest strikers of this generation (200 premier league goals and the rate is not slowing) is not bought and instead we go with Ivan Toney (25 PL goals). Because he's better value for the future (2 years and 9 months younger).

Don't get me wrong, I like Toney and he'd do a good job for us. But he's at least 2 levels down from Kane.

Edit - I don't even think Toney would end up being that much cheaper!

I think it’s sarcastic, I hope for him.

 

[CM]

Huh? This season he’s achieved playing relatively injury free but previous seasons, are we just discounting those? We are talking about a player who will be coming into his 30s, do we expect less niggles?
Osimhen, I’d think hard about investing in him too
Kane

Season	Injury	Days	Games missed
20/21	Ankle Injury	6 days	2
20/21	Ankle Injury	7 days	2
20/21	Unknown Injury	5 days	1
19/20	Fitness	23 days	1
19/20	Thigh muscle rupture	67 days	14
19/20	Ill	3 days	1
18/19	Ligament Injury	51 days	9
18/19	Torn Ankle Ligament	40 days	8
18/19	Back Injury	2 days	-
17/18	Ankle Injury	20 days	2
17/18	Knee Injury	8 days	-
17/18	Hamstring Injury	7 days	2
16/17	Ankle Injury	24 days	3
16/17	Ankle Injury	49 days	11
13/14	Back Injury	49 days	11

I don't think there's too much to be concerned about there. Kane's avoided picking up a bad injury for two years and has missed 67 games over the last decade. Rashford has missed 31 games over the last 4 years and I don't think many would consider him an injury prone player.

I can't even remember the last time we had the same player as our main striker from one season to the next. Lukaku maybe? We need a serious striker this summer and Kane is one of the few who might be available.

 

[Rozay]

As expected.

 

[LuckyScout78]

Kane = a super super good fate = it's something majestic over Harry Kane. It's just shining.

A good fate = rise the chance to achieve success.

Like a greek Goods. You can see and experience their physical body and presence. It is just something majestic over Kane

 

[balaks]

I really hope and pray we don't waste money on Kane. If we spend big on a striker then please let it be Ivan Toney. Far better value for the future

That is one of the funniest posts I've seen in ages. Fair play I genuinely laughed out loud.

 

[Vapor trail]

That is one of the funniest posts I've seen in ages. Fair play I genuinely laughed out loud.

It's funny I heard the exact same comparison on the vibe with five chat and I think Ashley Williams / Howson agreed. The biggest aspect that makes Kane a risk as a high profile transfer is his age he's on the tail end of his career. If Harry was a 25-26 year old there wouldn't be room for a debate.

 

[Rojofiam]

Kane would probably score 125+ goals for us over the next 5 seasons if we signed him in the summer...don't know how you can say no to that...not to mention that he would be perfect alongside Rashford and Fernandes.

 

[Rolaholic]

 

[Valencia's Left Foot]

He's not a winner, and he's not a complete footballer as he goes missing far too often. He scores against City then is totally anonymous against Leicester so much so that he might as well not be on the pitch. That's Kane all over and it's why we shouldn't sign him. He's always been like that and he'll never change.

This is such an insanely ridiculous take, you do know that, right? Every metric available supports Kane being one of the best strikers in the world.

 

[Becks_VII]

This is such an insanely ridiculous take, you do know that, right? Every metric available supports Kane being one of the best strikers in the world.

Its insane isnt it? In my view it would be a similar impact signing to when we got RVP, taking us and himself to the next level.

 

[El-Manos]

would be a great move for him.

 

[FujiVice]

If its a choice between going to Bayern and staying at Spurs, he wont leave. He's the big fish in a pond filled with seaweed. If he was going to leave it'd be to United or City.

 

[Abraxas]

Kane = a super super good fate = it's something majestic over Harry Kane. It's just shining.

A good fate = rise the chance to achieve success.

Like a greek Goods. You can see and experience their physical body and presence. It is just something majestic over Kane

I know you don't like discussion, so I would just like to say.. totally agreed.

 

[Rolaholic]

would be a great move for him.

It would.

He could leave, build a trophy case and potentially even win a European crown with them in a period of time that could still leave him with a few years left to come back home and break Shearers record if he wants.

He would bypass the Spurs fan backlash/fury that moving to a domestic rival would bring as well.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

It's funny I heard the exact same comparison on the vibe with five chat and I think Ashley Williams / Howson agreed. The biggest aspect that makes Kane a risk as a high profile transfer is his age he's on the tail end of his career. If Harry was a 25-26 year old there wouldn't be room for a debate.

It's Redcafe mate. Some people don't him because he doesn't have a "winners mentality"

 

[SilentWitness]

Toney is very very good and it's also worth having a penalty specialist in your team but Harry Kane is much better than him and it's still an easy choice to take him.

 

[Zed 101]

Weghorst as 10/8 shows where Kane would operate, in that role he would have great potential for the team at the right price, but as a 9 no chance

 

[Bebestation]

Weghorst as 10/8 shows where Kane would operate, in that role he would have great potential for the team at the right price, but as a 9 no chance

I hope to see

Rashford-Bruno-Antony
Kane​

Kane & Bruno can swap positions during pressing, counters, headers, long shots whilst both being creative & scoring. Garanacho and others would look good too imo.

 

[cyberman]

Weghorst as 10/8 shows where Kane would operate, in that role he would have great potential for the team at the right price, but as a 9 no chance

But that’s Bruno’s best position. Bruno was just shifted wide because Weghorst was needed there for his pressing which isn’t Kanes strongest attribute

 

[Rozay]

‘He doesn’t rely on pace’. Yea, but we do.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

‘He doesn’t rely on pace’. Yea, but we do.

The problem isn't that Kane doesn't rely on pace, it's that he's not some elite dribbler either a la Benzema. So it's a lot of dropping deep, and you also sacrifice any sort of pressing presence up front on top of that.

I'm super split on him. Think he consistently looks mediocre for England, but he'll have brilliant performances for Spurs year in and year out.

 

[Red Royal]

The problem isn't that Kane doesn't rely on pace, it's that he's not some elite dribbler either a la Benzema. So it's a lot of dropping deep, and you also sacrifice any sort of pressing presence up front on top of that.

I'm super split on him. Think he consistently looks mediocre for England, but he'll have brilliant performances for Spurs year in and year out.

For some reason I just don't see Bruno and Kane ever working. They would occupy similar spaces and try similar passes. Absolutely amazing player, but at the price quoted (thinking FFP not new investors ££) I think we could do more with.

 

[Dve]

He's objectively class, one of the best strikers in the world. But he's 29 and £100m on a 29 year old seems mental, I'm also not convinced it won't cost a lot more considering how much Spurs hate us. Rebuilding midfield is absolutely crucial, I'm aware we'll need a striker but I'd rather the bulk of our money goes to quality midfield additions.

Really? And you are aware that we actually don't have one singel striker at the club? Unless you count Martial's left foot, that is.

I'd love to see Kane playing for United - a classy striker and a classy personality as well. But not for 100m, I agree with that.

 

[Rozay]

The problem isn't that Kane doesn't rely on pace, it's that he's not some elite dribbler either a la Benzema. So it's a lot of dropping deep, and you also sacrifice any sort of pressing presence up front on top of that.

I'm super split on him. Think he consistently looks mediocre for England, but he'll have brilliant performances for Spurs year in and year out.

I’m similarly split. I also don’t think it’s just England he often looks mediocre for, I think often for Spurs against good sides he’s shut out of the game. I think the dropping deep is to run away from defenders. It’s been an English saying in the game my whole life that ‘you drop a few yards the older you get’. Whether that’s as a striker or a defender. It’s borne out of an unwillingness to engage.

I also have some concerns about the dynamic between Kane and Bruno. From what I see, Kane wants to stand on Bruno’s toes. And from what I see, Bruno isn’t too keen on the patient link play - he wants to release his man as soon as possible. And I don’t see that he’d be releasing Kane. We’d have a team full of wanna be 10s, including whatever we pit out at RW because Sancho and Antony are not running in behind either all set up trying to spring Rashford. Which is a bit predictable, and also leaves us with no outlet if Rashford can’t play.

The way I see it, there’s no perfect option available. Kane can’t run. Osimhen can’t link. We will have to gamble to some degree. Kane will get us goals, but there will be games where there are questions too, just as there has been with Haaland. I think Kane fits us better if we did not play with a 10 and if we also had a runner on the right. To me, Kane, Sancho/Antony and Bruno are all trying to do the same thing, and the game is all in front of the opposing defenders.

 

[Dve]

Well there's money but couldn't he get the same amount plus move to a team more likely to win things than us right now? That's why he supposedly wanted the move to City.

If we're not even in the Champions League next season then we can't be that appealing. Not ruling us out but we can't be favourites to qualify at this time. He'd be swapping a team he has affinity with to one he doesn't but no big step up in chances of collecting a few medals for extra cash.

From our perspective I'd rather go for someone we could build onto that level of player anyway. Someone with untapped potential still who we'd get more years out of.

Like Martial?

I like the idea, but untapped potential tend to remain untapped - just as often as not. But yes, let's get that as well, but we also need someone who is already a top striker, not only with the potential of becoming one.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

I’m similarly split. I also don’t think it’s just England he often looks mediocre for, I think often for Spurs against good sides he’s shut out of the game. I think the dropping deep is to run away from defenders. It’s been an English saying in the game my whole life that ‘you drop a few yards the older you get’. Whether that’s as a striker or a defender. It’s borne out of an unwillingness to engage.

I also have some concerns about the dynamic between Kane and Bruno. From what I see, Kane wants to stand on Bruno’s toes. And from what I see, Bruno isn’t too keen on the patient link play - he wants to release his man as soon as possible. And I don’t see that he’d be releasing Kane. We’d have a team full of wanna be 10s, including whatever we pit out at RW because Sancho and Antony are not running in behind either all set up trying to spring Rashford. Which is a bit predictable, and also leaves us with no outlet if Rashford can’t play.

The way I see it, there’s no perfect option available. Kane can’t run. Osimhen can’t link. We will have to gamble to some degree. Kane will get us goals, but there will be games where there are questions too, just as there has been with Haaland. I think Kane fits us better if we did not play with a 10 and if we also had a runner on the right. To me, Kane, Sancho/Antony and Bruno are all trying to do the same thing, and the game is all in front of the opposing defenders.

Agree there's no perfect option. Ironically the best option considering our new owners might be a mega bid for Mbappe/Kvara and have Rashford as the primary 9 along with another cheaper 9 to rotate in.

But If we are set on either Kane or Osi, then it's clearly Osi for me as I think at his worst he's a physical specimen that can finish which fits our more direct style.

 

[ti vu]

For some reason I just don't see Bruno and Kane ever working. They would occupy similar spaces and try similar passes. Absolutely amazing player, but at the price quoted (thinking FFP not new investors ££) I think we could do more with.

I disagree. Kane used to play with Ali, Eriksen, Lamela, who all prefers that central space, and it worked out.

The problem isn't that Kane doesn't rely on pace, it's that he's not some elite dribbler either a la Benzema. So it's a lot of dropping deep, and you also sacrifice any sort of pressing presence up front on top of that.

I'm super split on him. Think he consistently looks mediocre for England, but he'll have brilliant performances for Spurs year in and year out.

I think you got the wrong idea of how Kane operates as a play maker. He's not gonna drop deep if his team is able to push their defensive line high.

Kane drop deep is when the defensively line is deep, where somebody with vision, passing ability would tactically help adding an extra midfielder; aka no CF, false no 9. Also in this scenario, there is plenty of space in behind opposition's high defensively line.

While England still gets result, it's a tactical mess. Some players can't realize their best abilities under Southgate.

Kane lack space, but he doesn't lack in doing his tactical job: Being the proper forward beating the low block, or an extra midfielder when counter against a highline.

 

[2 man midfield]

Kane up top last night and we win that imo.

It all depends how easy it is to get him out of spurs. If they won’t sell then that puts the whole thing back 12 months, and we need to buy a striker this summer. It’s this window or nothing.

 

[Chipper]

Like Martial?

I like the idea, but untapped potential tend to remain untapped - just as often as not. But yes, let's get that as well, but we also need someone who is already a top striker, not only with the potential of becoming one.

It's a long time ago when I posted that what you quoted! I don't think I had someone like Martial from the time we signed him in mind.

I don't even know if the kind of player I was thinking of even exists these days because they might already snapped up by clubs at a younger age as scouting networks have improved. I was thinking someone more established than Martial when we bought him, a little older, more of a proven track record but still not at that "destination club" and could improve a bit more.

We used to make that kind of signing a fair bit. Van Nistelrooy was 25 when he made his United debut, Yorke 26, Cole 23. He didn't have that much football behind him but Chicharito was 22, same with Solskjaer at 23. Saha (25 when we bought him) was well-liked by many but ultimately suffered from a lot of injuries just like Martial.

I don't know the European/World market very well these days so I can't throw out names. Was thinking someone more around that age who has perhaps already shown a fair bit, but could also take it up a level further.

Everyone is talking about Osimhen right now who fits that sort of profile. The thing is with him is that he's about to be crowned an Italian champion and Napoli already paid a lot for him so will cost a bomb as they'd surely like to make a decent profit. Ideally he'd have been playing at a lower-profile top-flight club right now or not cost as much in the first place so that we could pick him up as his first big-fee move. Like I said though, I don't know if that exists nowadays.

Kane after his first couple of seasons in the Spurs side would have been brilliant too of course.

 

[Globule]

It's a long time ago when I posted that what you quoted! I don't think I had someone like Martial from the time we signed him in mind.

I don't even know if the kind of player I was thinking of even exists these days because they might already snapped up by clubs at a younger age as scouting networks have improved. I was thinking someone more established than Martial when we bought him, a little older, more of a proven track record but still not at that "destination club" and could improve a bit more.

We didn't buy Martial in the 1980s. Scouting networks were pretty comprehensive in 2015.

 

[Bebestation]

Rashford~Bruno~Antony/other
Kane​

Let Bruno press when we dont have the ball

Rashford~Kane~Antony/other
Bruno
​

When we do have the ball. sancho or even vdb would not be bad cover for brunoimo.
We saw weghorst getting played in on goal whilst starting deep.

 

[Chipper]

We didn't buy Martial in the 1980s. Scouting networks were pretty comprehensive in 2015.

Shame that can't be said about your reading skills in 2023.

You see the part where I said " I don't think I had someone like Martial from the time we signed him in mind."

Well guess what? That means I wasn't talking about Martial or signings like him. I even included examples of the types I was talking about.

 

[Globule]

Shame that can't be said about your reading skills in 2023.

You see the part where I said " I don't think I had someone like Martial from the time we signed him in mind."

Well guess what? That means I wasn't talking about Martial or signings like him. I even included examples of the types I was talking about.

Fair point. I misread your post.

I think there are players like the ones you do mention though. I also don't know European markets very well, but from the premier League there's Mitrovic and Toney that could potentially have an impact like most of your examples - maybe not van Nistelrooy or Cole.

Part of the problem with premier League signings is those clubs now have a lot more money to resist the advances of the bigger clubs, but similar players will be out there.