If Spurs miss top 4. 75% chance my son gets his kit for Christmas?
Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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Yeah they aren't out of the race yet
Yes, I'm comparing aging strikers on massive salaries at the wrong end of their careers, who are only getting slower and offer less and less dynamism up front.
Ronaldo at 29/30 would have been an amazing signing
I'd say Ronaldo at 34 and Kane at 29 are probably the same signing.
Ronaldo at 29 and Kane at 25 is probably more comparable, I'd do that deal all day long.
I don't know if I agree but I'm reluctant to sign Kane. When we signed van Persie he just had his best ever season and was arguably the best striker in the world at that point, coming into a United squad accustomed to winning titles
I don't think Kane is as good as van Persie and this United team can't carry Kane.
But Van Persie was signed to essentially add the final peice to a team that was lacking goals, a very well functioning team at that. He knew it was short term, he himself said he joined to win a PL.
Signing Kane would be like signing Ronaldo again, the outlay means he'd have to be the focal point and we shouldn't be building a team around Harry Kane.
People are getting it wrong. It’s not about his age. It’s about how he is physically. He looks seriously diminished.
I won’t complain if we sign him though.
I won’t complain if we sign him though.
Why? Ronaldo was always more reliant on pace and power. It’s to his credit that he managed to keep himself at top level until 36/37. Kane is a player of a style who traditionally age a lot slower and is in fantastic shape - look at how his injury record has improved over the last few seasons.
Turning our nose up at peak Kane, with probably 5-6 years to go in his career, and with various records to chase to keep him motivated, would be absolute madness.
This place is genuinely mental. I'd go as far as to say he's about the most guaranteed successful signing we could realistically make. Nailed on to make us a miles better team.
I would love to have more MBE at the club and less MBA
It’s absolutely nuts. The various Rashford threads are one thing but this one really takes the prize. We have no number 9, Kane is one of the worlds best, potentially available this summer, and half those posting seem to genuinely think we shouldn’t sign him.
What are you basing that on? All the evidence from recent years is that the peak years of the modern striker is their early 30's. Benzema, Cavani, Zlatan, Lewandowski, Higuain and Suarez all maintained their level or got better in their 30's. I'd love to know why you would think Kane, who looks after himself pretty well, would be so different.
Plays into our hands imo. Yet another manager to work under and get used to.
Unless they sign SAF and give him £500m, they ain't winning anything.
Or his boyhood club is on the verge of a cash injection from QSI and Pochettino is about to return, who he enjoyed working under.
If he does, it makes our mind up for us, he's then not of the required mentality to be a United player and we go for option #2
Totally arbitraty numbers pulled from absolutely nowhere. Kane is still brilliant right now and if we can get him for 60 million or less then we absolutely should. Big if, mind.
How many goals would Kane score over 4 years? 60-80? How much is that worth to us…
Well apparently Lewandowski was the other option at the time but Dortmund wouldn't budge so I'm not sure that's the best example.
The problem will be the price. Levy will look for ridiculous money.
What you sign as a final piece is different to what you sign when you’re a work in progress.
Pointless putting iceing in the middle of the cake.
If we sign Kane next season, this will be the state of our squad (exclude keeper):
30 or above: Kane, Casemiro, Varane, Eriksen, Maguire, Fred
24-29: Rashford, Shaw, Malacia, Dalot, Lisandro, Bissaka, Martial, McTominay, Bruno, Lindelof, VDB
20-23: Sancho, Antony, Elanga, Amad, Pellistri
Under 20: Garnacho
Assume if we sell Maguire and Fred, while buying 26 years old or under players means only Kane, Casemiro, Varane, and Eriksen on their 30ish plus Bruno on his 29, which is on paper looks good and well balanced squad.
30 or above: Kane, Casemiro, Varane, Eriksen, Maguire, Fred
24-29: Rashford, Shaw, Malacia, Dalot, Lisandro, Bissaka, Martial, McTominay, Bruno, Lindelof, VDB
20-23: Sancho, Antony, Elanga, Amad, Pellistri
Under 20: Garnacho
Assume if we sell Maguire and Fred, while buying 26 years old or under players means only Kane, Casemiro, Varane, and Eriksen on their 30ish plus Bruno on his 29, which is on paper looks good and well balanced squad.
Kane instantly makes us title challengers, with the strength of the rest of our first team though, so he is the missing piece. We still need more depth as well but number 9 is the clear hole in our squad.
Ronaldo was not a striker.
He was an inverted forward that became a striker when he lost some pace. When he lost it all - he lost it all.
He was an inverted forward that became a striker when he lost some pace. When he lost it all - he lost it all.
Kane tried to do that and Spurs didn't let him. That's on the club. It's also their fault City have Haaland.
Buying Oshimen will stop us signing other players for other positions.
He was bought to Napolifor 70 million so buying him would cost easily over 130+million.
On the other hand Spurs want 80-90 mil for Kane which we can negotiate for 60-65-70 million Deal because no one would be interested in a higher price like Bayern Munich would offer for him.
Just as an example Kane and De Jong could maybe even be bought for the single price of Osihmen.
If Osihmen costs/negotiates up to 150 million (which is a number that’s been mentioned for him already say if Chelsea want him or the numbers they asked for Koulibaliy) then we could get Kane and De Jong for 75 mil each and arguably complete most of our squad.
Osihmen is not some cheap youngster. He is 24 turning 25 on the season we buy him and costs nearly 150 million pounds.
It's not as good when our first choice goalkeeper, our best centre back, our best midfielder and our number 9 would all be in their 30s (albeit only just in their 30s). It would be understandable if that had been our core for years and had already had success (like Liverpool in recent years and more so ourselves post Ferguson) and soon needed rebuilding but it's not the best situation when that team is just being constructed.
If Ten Hag thinks it's the way to go then I would trust him to get it right but it would mean we'd need to be seriously competing for the title next season rather than building a bit more patiently.
Surely we already know his mentality is questionable. He's their main man and each time Spurs have had an opportunity to raise their head above the parapet and win something he has a poor game. Balloons a ball into orbit when England are on top of a quarter final. Signs a lengthy contract with Spurs with no exit contained within.
The signs are there for people if they want to see them that Harry Kane isn't a winning machine.
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If we sign Raya for 15m, we will have first choice keeper of 28 years old keeper for next season. We will have one each of 30 years old in defense, midfield, and attack for our starting XI and I think it's well balanced when you think about it.
Yeah this should absolutely be our mindset on this one,however all in for Osimhen will definitely require new ownership due to needing a top CM as well. We aren't exactly full of players who can make us much from sales.
I can totally understand the point that you are making but the management of him has to take some criticism for things as well.
Say if you look at the Champions League Final in 2019 I tend to blame Pochettino for not being stronger and starting Moura when Kane was clearly still struggling with injury.
When you talk about that World Cup Quarter Final yes he missed a shocking penalty but Southgate could have got Rashford on earlier to take pressure off him a bit.
I’m against Kane solely on the premise that it will probably cost us around £100m, anything under £60m then it should get done, but I’m operating under the assumption Tottenham won’t let their crown jewel go for anything less than a British transfer record + United tax, and massive salary.
Also, ‘brilliant right now’? How about in 18 months? Ronaldo was brilliant last season, this season he looked to have aged 5 years overnight. The problem when you’re dealing with players at this age of this calibre you have no idea when they’re about to drop off. Kane is only ever another ankle injury away from being done, and he’s prone to them.
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Levy is notoriously very difficult to deal with & will probably stick a ridiculous price on Kane. Harry will need to put pressure on the club if he wants away.
Levy will ask 85m probably. Fortunately for us, there are still alternatives we can sign but we better act quickly. May be combined of Kane hands in a transfer request and Spurs not getting UCL's money will allow Levy to sell cheaper than 85m?
The only gettable player, maybe the only player overall, in this league I'd spend £100M pounds on. Ultimate Muppet target.
Don't know how anyone wouldn't want Harry. He's probably the most complete striker outside of Benzema and Lewandowski at a stretch. Buying him is like buying a #9 and a #10.
Don't know how anyone wouldn't want Harry. He's probably the most complete striker outside of Benzema and Lewandowski at a stretch. Buying him is like buying a #9 and a #10.
People are living in the dark ages thinking this should be closer to the £50m price tag than a £100m price tag. It'd be better for Spurs to just let him see it out than fold for a similar price to Lewandowski who was 4 years older at the time of the transfer.
Yep, there’s no way he’s leaving for anything less than £100m, Levy has repeatedly said £150m for Kane this summer. There’s literally no point in pursuing this transfer.
Reference for these Levy stuff? Anything I find about that is Summer 2021.... he's not discussed or hinted at his sale since the City flirtation from what I see. £85m-100m seems about right for a 1 year left 30 year old though as per what's being generally guessed in most reports.
What type of striker does Ten Hag want though? Kane is a different type of striker from the other alternatives mentioned here - Osimhen, Vlahovic, Ramos. Its not just about if any of these players are good enough but who fits ETH style best. If ETH wants a striker to drop deep and play close to the team then its really no contest, Kane is the best out there.