Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

WeePat said:
I've always said, the litmus test for the great legendary strikers is to come to Chelsea and see if they can score 20-25 goals per season in our team. I said it about Lewandowski in his prime, Kane and Haaland.

Until any of them bother trying this, Diego Costa is better than them all.
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You have a point. Somehow you managed to ruin Shevchenko ffs. Crespo needed 5 months at Milan to get out of whatever curse you laid on him
 
Kane: Wait, we have no games for three and a half weeks over Christmas and New Year’s?
 
Let's be honest if he wasn't English he'd be rated much higher on here down the years.

If we were a serious club or if Fergie was still in charge we would have gone in for him ages ago when he proved he wasn't a one season wonder.

Instead we have been fannying about with Ibrahimovic and Lukaku then flop Sanchez.
 
I'd say Dier was signed with Harry in mind, maybe he's shown signs of struggling to settle in over in Germany.
 
GueRed said:
Let's be honest if he wasn't English he'd be rated much higher on here down the years.

If we were a serious club or if Fergie was still in charge we would have gone in for him ages ago when he proved he wasn't a one season wonder.

Instead we have been fannying about with Ibrahimovic and Lukaku then flop Sanchez.
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100% Fergie always had that instinct to get the best English (British and Irish also) talent at the time while he could, Roy Keane, Denis Irwin, Paul Ince, Andy Cole, Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves, Alan Smith, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Ashley Young (attempted Gascoigne and Shearer). Getting that core of top British and Irish players was always key, and I have no doubt Kane would have been here in around 2014/15 if Fergie was still in charge.
 
Devil81 said:
I'd say Dier was signed with Harry in mind, maybe he's shown signs of struggling to settle in over in Germany.
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I don’t think so. We just desperately need more depth at cb and other options have not worked out. Tuchel knows him from his time in England, he’s cheap and experienced. For a cb number 4 that’s a solid package. The Kane thing is just another small plus.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Wow, why on Earth would they want Dier?
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4th choice, will he even play? Three arguably world class defenders in front of him.

Dier is ok with a low block defending his box, not so much playing out from the back under an aggressive press and standing on the halfway line and having to recover and chase down fast players. Which is what Postecoglu wants from his CB's.
 
Devil81 said:
I'd say Dier was signed with Harry in mind, maybe he's shown signs of struggling to settle in over in Germany.
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Got to be the case as he's one of the lowest IQ footballers I've ever seen. Nowhere near Bayern standard even as a backup.
 
Scroto Baggins said:
4th choice, will he even play? Three arguably world class defenders in front of him.

Dier is ok with a low block defending his box, not so much playing out from the back under an aggressive press and standing on the halfway line and having to recover and chase down fast players. Which is what Postecoglu wants from his CB's.
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With Tuchel we play less often with that ultra high line - and we still have Neuer behind that.

Will he play? We had Goretzka and Mazraoui playing in central defense sometimes in the recent weeks prior to the break. De Ligt is injury prone and Kim might play the Asian cup until the final.
 
Good signing for Bayern as 4th choice. He won’t need to do much actual defending there and his passing is strong. Worst case is they will re-sell him to a premier league team for more than £3.5m next summer if it doesn’t work out. It’s the type of smart “no lose” signing which Bayern seem to be excellent at.
 
Back to Kane - obviously a smashing signing for Bayern based on what we’ve seen in half a season. However, is it fair to wait for a couple of seasons to laud the signing as an unmitigated success? I mean, Ronaldo was tearing it up for us in his 1st season back here and we all know how it turned out. Any chance at all that Kane may drop off the cliff after his first season there?
 
HTG said:
I don’t think so. We just desperately need more depth at cb and other options have not worked out. Tuchel knows him from his time in England, he’s cheap and experienced. For a cb number 4 that’s a solid package. The Kane thing is just another small plus.
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Shouldn't forget he can also play as a 6, which is where I think he played best.
 
hasanejaz88 said:
Shouldn't forget he can also play as a 6, which is where I think he played best.
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I actually can see Tuchel using him very often to save small leads with an offensive getting substituted for him. We used to have Tymo and Gustavo and later Martinez with coaches where he did not start to do that.
 
December_16 said:
Back to Kane - obviously a smashing signing for Bayern based on what we’ve seen in half a season. However, is it fair to wait for a couple of seasons to laud the signing as an unmitigated success? I mean, Ronaldo was tearing it up for us in his 1st season back here and we all know how it turned out. Any chance at all that Kane may drop off the cliff after his first season there?
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Fair point, but Kane will never behave with Bayern the way Ronaldo did with us. We got rid of Ronaldo because of the circus that engulfed his every move. It's ridiculous to even type these words but the point must be underscored -- the Ronaldo of today is still a massive upgrade over the Martial or Hojlund of today. Even Joe Hugill!
 
December_16 said:
Back to Kane - obviously a smashing signing for Bayern based on what we’ve seen in half a season. However, is it fair to wait for a couple of seasons to laud the signing as an unmitigated success? I mean, Ronaldo was tearing it up for us in his 1st season back here and we all know how it turned out. Any chance at all that Kane may drop off the cliff after his first season there?
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Obviously he could pick up a career threatening injury at any time but there’s no reason at all otherwise to expect him to drop off before 35, especially playing in Germany. It could happen but a player with no significant injury history, who has never relied on pace, is by all accounts a model professional and is no doubt hungry for the trophies that eluded him in his 20s is as low risk a signing at 29/30 as its possible to make.

The likelihood is that he will tear it up for Bayern for 2-3 seasons and then look to come back to England to take the goal scoring record. At that stage, I don’t want us to be involved in signing him.
 
lex talionis said:
Fair point, but Kane will never behave with Bayern the way Ronaldo did with us. We got rid of Ronaldo because of the circus that engulfed his every move. It's ridiculous to even type these words but the point must be underscored -- the Ronaldo of today is still a massive upgrade over the Martial or Hojlund of today. Even Joe Hugill!
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Funny, I remember him looking extremely out of his depth against crap teams from Cyprus even, must've been dreaming.
 
strongwalker said:
I read the redcafe a lot and apparently even a mid-tier PL player will run circles about any BL Player who is considered World Class. I expect him to win the german ballon d'or
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The BDL take everything so seriously.
 
RVN1991 said:
Funny, I remember him looking extremely out of his depth against crap teams from Cyprus even, must've been dreaming.
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I don't know about your dreaming habits, but the Ronaldo of today is still a massive upgrade on Martial and Hojlund. Ronald is in decline, but he hasn't reach Martialesque levels of indolence and incompetence just yet. But if you asked me to choose whether to bring in either Kane or Ronaldo right now it's not a hard call.
 
lex talionis said:
I don't know about your dreaming habits, but the Ronaldo of today is still a massive upgrade on Martial and Hojlund. Ronald is in decline, but he hasn't reach Martialesque levels of indolence and incompetence just yet. But if you asked me to choose whether to bring in either Kane or Ronaldo right now it's not a hard call.
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Of course. Completely forgot that players in their late 30's tend to get better as they age.
 
RVN1991 said:
Of course. Completely forgot that players in their late 30's tend to get better as they age.
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Straw man alert. It is undeniable that Ronaldo is significantly older than Martial and in decline, but Ronaldo’s peak was vastly higher than Martial’s peak, and the state of Martial is incredibly poor, well below the level Ronaldo is at now.

As far as I know, Hojlund has scored exactly one goal on his PL career. Even at Ronaldo’s advanced age I’m pretty sure he would have managed more than one PL goal for United this season.
 
Grabs another. Not bad. Bayern were poor though. Hoffenheim could and maybe should've had at least a draw.
 
Ekkie Thump said:
Grabs another. Not bad. Bayern were poor though. Hoffenheim could and maybe should've had at least a draw.
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Hoffenheim had a good phase in the second half where they had 2.5 good chances but a Bayern win is deserved. Maybe one goal too high but they where clearly better.
 
Acrobat7 said:
Hoffenheim had a good phase in the second half where they had 2.5 good chances but a Bayern win is deserved. Maybe one goal too high but they where clearly better.
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I felt Bayern knocked it about better and had more of the ball but weren't particularly dangerous with it. Thought in terms of chances Hoffenheim were good value for the draw up until the sending off.

Musiala looks a handful.
 
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