He is undoubtedly great, but the two of us would have scored against Bochum as well today.
Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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How was that last goal not offside? Seems Mazraoui was offside?
Lazy foot from 2nd defender from the top and he's very even with the third one. You can see the lines in the pitch.
Better question is why the linesman is so far onto the pitch.
He was always going to score plenty. It’s comfortably the least competitive of the major leagues.
Kane is well ahead of the defenders at any point when freezed framed. The wide player may have been just onside as the ball is played but looks offside in almost every frame as the ball is played. Surely, Kane should be flagged as he gained an advantage there and inevitably scored. Am I not properly interpreting the offside rule?
Just out of curiosity. What's the appeal of this forum to you?
Bochum are Dreadful
That's the first phase, he's onside for the phase when the ball is played to him so he's fine.
With Kane scoring so many goals, Bayern have a real shot at the title.
Today definitely. But they drew with Dortmund and Frankfurt this season.
Not this nonsense again ...
In terms of title race candidates? Sure, it's not competitive.
With Bayern you have a top-3 club in the world and no other team in Germany can compete with that long term, because no sugardaddies are allowed. The other "good" teams (Dortmund, Leipzig, Leverkusen) are candidates for the UCL quarterfinals at best, nothing more though.
In terms of overall competitiveness outside of Bayern's rule at the top it's pretty nice though.
Certainly WAY ahead of Ligue 1 in terms of overall quality.
Pretty even with Serie A and only slightly worse than La Liga (only because La Liga has two and a half true top teams with Real, Barcelona and Atletico, bottom half of La Liga is incredibly poor though).
The UEFA 5-year-ranking reflects that - PL leading comfortably, then LaLiga/Serie A/Bundesliga all very close to each other and then a huge gap before Eredivisie and Ligue 1 again.
Yeah, are they not on about 10 titles in a row now? That’s dreadful, and since it’s the title race people are generally most interested in that’s a terrible look for any league. A rich man’s SPL, but then even that’s been won by more than one club in the last decade.
Kane scored 30 league goals last season in a poor side with an out of date manager who was trying to get himself sacked. That's only 6 less than Haaland scored and he had way more chances created for him by his more talented teammates.
Last season the top scorer in the Bundesliga scored 16 goals. If he scores say 2x or more that many, that's due to how good he is and not the league.
Last season the top scorer in the Bundesliga scored 16 goals. If he scores say 2x or more that many, that's due to how good he is and not the league.
If he stays injury free he will breeze by that.
Wrongheaded post. First of all, Bayern were clearly better in that UCL game, the scoreline was a bit deceptive. Secondly, I thought we'd all woken up to the fact that one or two isolated games between teams from different leagues cannot give any real indication of the strength of a particular league after situations like City v Lyon, Arsenal v Sporting etc., but I guess not.
You argued that he would score so much because it's "the least competitive of the major leagues".
I then explained that by all metrics possible the overall quality of the league is right on par with Serie A and only slightly behind La Liga.
If he went to Barcelona or Real, he would just score as much.
If he went to any Italian club he probably wouldn't score as much, but that has more to do with the fact that they don't have a super club and not because Serie A is that tough compared to the other leagues.
Playing for an elite club always makes it that much easier, regardless of the league you play in. Just look at Haaland, who scored way more in the PL last year than he ever did for Dortmund in the BL.
And btw, just for the record in terms of competitiveness: City has won the PL in 5 of the last 6 years. We all know they're going to make it 6 out of 7 this year. Hardly that much more competitive (not saying the BL is competitive by any means in terms of the title race, but let's not act like the PL is).
I think you're making the mistake of taking a horsechoker post seriously
And Dortmund were dumped out of the CL by the 12th best team in England last season, a draw against them isn't exactly indicative of any quality especially since they lost their best player in the summer.
It's seriously hard to judge Bayern's current level as the Bundesliga is so weak and in their only European game so far they played a United side missing an entire team's worth of players who have been dire in recent weeks. Still needed a super soft penalty and a goalkeeping howler to sneak a win as well.
Let's just be honest and say that outside of Bayern it's actually pretty unlikely that any of the other German teams would finish in the top half in the PL, especially once Wirtz is poached by a bigger club. It's a shame how unbalanced the league is, but the PL is heading down the same route with City's dominance, unfortunately.
I really dont know sometimes if some posts are just meant to wind people up or if theyre actually serious.
Also, didnt Haaland score like 3 or 4 hattricks for City last year? Didnt he break the goal record in his first season in the Premier League while he could never win the golden boot in Germany?
You lot get wound up far too easily.
I really dont know sometimes if some posts are just meant to wind people up or if theyre actually serious.
Also, didnt Haaland score like 3 or 4 hattricks for City last year? Didnt he break the goal record in his first season in the Premier League while he could never win the golden boot in Germany?
he’s a secondary school teacher. lost a bet with his students and had to play bundesliga football as the forfeit.
He's 27 and somehow scored pretty much as many goals as he's ever gotten in a single season in the first 5 games.
It wasn’t a wind up though. That poster was serious about it.
Let's be honest though. He's probably right. Leverkusen might be able to do it, Dortmund or Leipzig most likely not in their current state.
Who else could possibly do it?
Feast your eyes on a Lederhosen-clad Herr Kane
Feast your eyes on a Lederhosen-clad Herr Kane
There’s no way he didn’t dribble two thirds of that down his lederhosen
Brighton West Ham Astin Villa Newcastle are all top half of the EPL
Newcastle played Milan and they didn't look like they belong in that level of football.
I was serious about it, you're right. It wasn't meant to be a brag about the strength of the PL or anything though, I actually really dislike any kind of dominance in football that is based simply on having more money than the opposition whether that be a team or a league.
Bayern outspend all the other clubs in the BL and it becomes pretty dull watching a fight for second every season, the PL teams have too much money and it leads to the likes of Villa and Spurs being able to poach players from one of the top teams in Germany and weakening the league even further. To make it even worse you have the state funded City who over the past decade have signed the best striker from the BL as well as the best midfielder and probably the best defender. City are also turning the PL into a fight for second thanks to their financial superiority over a long period of time and it becomes pretty boring to watch as well as there is no real drama involved.
Kane could score 10 goals or 60 in the league this season, but we all know deep down that Bayern will still walk the league regardless. Now that might satisfy Kane as he has never won a trophy before, but Bayern fans and the board probably wouldn't even consider that a real success anymore which is actually quite sad when you think about it.
He’s playing for the side that completely dominates the league, the strongest side in the country by a stretch. So how is it hard to predict he’d score a load of goals? I’m sure any decent striker would weigh in with them at Bayern. Even guys like Mario Gomes and Mandžukić had great tallies there and they weren’t exactly world beaters. That was before the era of VAR and increased numbers of penalty kicks too, which Kane has certainly benefited from. I’m sure anomalous portion of his England goals are made up from spot kicks too.
Feast your eyes on a Lederhosen-clad Herr Kane
he genuinely looks like he’s loving the experience of it all.
None of this has anything to do with what you wrote and what the poster took offence to.
You wrote: "... it's actually pretty unlikely that any of the other German teams would finish in the top half in the PL..."
I really dont know sometimes if some posts are just meant to wind people up or if theyre actually serious.
Also, didnt Haaland score like 3 or 4 hattricks for City last year? Didnt he break the goal record in his first season in the Premier League while he could never win the golden boot in Germany?
Had he been playing for the best team in Germany I’m sure he’d easily have done the same there.
Not to mention, he was a raw 19 year old as opposed to a player right at the peak of his powers.
Germany is basically England if United still had Ferguson but you got rid of Chelsea, City, Arsenal and Liverpool. Its easier to win the title there but the best of the rest there would still get into the top half of England. They'd just be nowhere near the title.
If the leagues were somehow combined, I'd say City would be 1st, then Bayern, then 4 or 5 English teams then a mix of both from then on.
If the leagues were somehow combined, I'd say City would be 1st, then Bayern, then 4 or 5 English teams then a mix of both from then on.
The next 4 or 5 English teams are not comfortably better than Dortmund, Leverkusen, Leipzig. I'm assuming you mean Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, and
You mean like Mane took the Bundesliga by storm when he came from Liverpool, having scored loads of goals there for years?
Its almost like there are many more factors that contribute to a player succeeding in a certain team that go far beyond the league theyre playing in.
What’s that got to do with anything I said? Haaland was already banging them in at Dortmund who aren’t the best team in the league. Had he been playing for Bayern who are clearly the best team in the league I’m sure he would’ve won a golden boot in Germany as they’d be creating even more chances for him.
Yes they are, easily.
Yep I do. If you were to have a combined top 5 from both leagues, it would be Bayern and 4 English teams.
Liverpool, City and Chelsea have all won the Champions League with Spurs making the final in recent years. No German team that wasn't Bayern got close to the final and none will for the foreseeable future.
Dortmund loses their best player every year. There's 4 or 5 teams in the PL that can keep theirs for several years.
Leipzig got to a semifinal in 2020.