no one is going to offer him a five-year deal
Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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Off the facts. With Sabitzer on his way to BVB it's the other way around. Total number of players Bayern bought from BVB in the last 25 years: 2, Götze and Hummels (and we gave both of them back after use) . Other direction: 4, Götze, Rode, Hummels, Sabitzer
about United getting Kane: keep on dreaming, Lads. He's Munich bound, 80% this year, if that doesnt happen, next year. Call me back when Mrs Kane is spotted checking out houses and schools in Manchester (is there even an international school?
Lewa?
Free agent ( criminal, I know.)
no money went from FCB to BVB for him
I agree. Also the whole by the time we challenge he'll be too old rhetoric just confuses me. If we get him we'll challenge this coming season.
Kane is probably the only cf in Europe right now that is at least on Haalands level, imo he's better than Haaland due to his overall play. No cf in world football (maybe Benzema) would improve our wingers output and get 20-30 goals in the league at the same time.
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Its been suggested bayern are offering a 4 or 5 year deal.
Which makes sense. They just sold 34 year old Lewa for 50m. They will expect a similar re-sale value for Kane.
Thank you.
What happened to @balaks haven't seen them in a while perhaps resigned already to fact the Arry won't re-sign...
Do you want United to sign Kane? I expected you'd embrace every poster who doesn't think it's a good idea.
Kane isn't the best scorer of all time in the UK. He's 71st in England. Or 19th if you're only looking at top-flight league goals.
Speaking of Lewandowski: Bayern fans of the caf, was there any hype in Germany around Lewandowski breaking the all-time top scorer record of the Bundesliga? He was only 53 goals behind Gerd Müller - that's two good seasons. When he was first linked with leaving Bayern, was the potential record touted as a reason to stick around?no money went from FCB to BVB for him
@Acrobat7 @Wiesenlooser @Blackwidow @do.ob (I apologise for lumping you in with the Bayern fans)
Only very, very rarely.
But in general Gerd Müllers one season record of 40 goals was always a bigger topic in germany than his all time record.
And as we know Lewy broke that "unbreakable" record.
Does Messi have the most La Liga goals ever?
Who is first in Ligue 1?
I don't have a clue.
Imo it's nowhere as big of a topic as in the PL.
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I can tell you it was brought up by the Polish media and there were a few “ITKs” pretending to know that Lewy was on the hunt for that record and that’s what apparently motivated him to stay in Bayern. I honestly think it’s bullshit and breaking the Muller record for the most goals in the season, a treble and numerous individual accolades were surely enough for Lewandowski to admit it’s time to move on.
“Noobs”
And of course a Bayern fan I haven't tagged responds first
Thanks! That's what I thought.
And by the way, yes, Messi does hold the record for all time La Liga top goalscorer. No prizes for guessing who's second, either.
I simply wanted to agree to what was mentioned. Müller‘s single season record was talked about a lot. And rightfully so. 40 goals in a 34 game season is truly impressive.And of course a Bayern fan I haven't tagged responds first
Thanks! That's what I thought.
And by the way, yes, Messi does hold the record for all time La Liga top goalscorer. No prizes for guessing who's second, either.
An all-time-scoring record is obviously great but on the one hand it can be broken (while you get to keep your league, cup, CL, EL trophies) and on the other hand it is quite hilarious to pretend that there was no football before 1992.
Reaching/breaking Gerd Müller's 40 goals in a single season was a pretty big deal in German media and for Lewa and the team. Lewandowski even wore a shirt with "Gerd forever" under his Bayern jersey the day he equalled the record, and when he broke it, the whole squad gave him a guard of honour directly on the pitch.
i think we can challenge next season with Kane
even last season there was a period where we looked like we might challenge, despite the utter mess we were in only one season prior
we literally didn’t have a striker, and then we go straight to having Kane! We’d surely be adding 10/15 points on that and our keeper upgrade is huge too
- Onana v Ramsdale
- Wan Bissaka v White
- Varane v Saliba
- Martinez vGabriel
- Shaw v Zinchenko
- Casemiro v Partey
- Eriksen/Mount v Xhaka
- Bruno v Odegaard
- Antony v Saka
- Kane v Jesus
- Rashford v Martinelli
Arsenal were number 1 in the PL for 3/4 of the season & dropped in the last few months.
I don’t see how a player like Kane wouldn’t make us title challengers - when we are quite similar in capacity to last years Arsenal who gave a good title challenge to Man City.
Our team (with Kane) looks stronger than last season's Arsenal's.
And even better we may be playing with an actual #6 *and* a class keeper who has a trust relation with the defenders and vice versa
Agree what the others said about Müller vs Lewa.
Some other aspects. Müller along with Beckenbauer was the symbol of Germany's and the Bundesligas rise from after-war obscurity to powerhouse both on club and on international level. Lewa was and is respected for his class and his professionalism, but never was beloved the same way, too much of a merc.
If you create a chance, Lewa is the near 100% certain scorer. If there is no chance, Müller creates a goal no one else could have, to this day.
That isn't meant to disrespect Lewa. Gerd himself when he was still able to was full of praise for him.
On paper it looks good but football isn't played on paper. Kane's a lot better than Jesus but could he match Jesus' mobility and pressing? We've seen with Ronaldo how a player can offer goals but still be an overall detriment to the team. I'm not saying this would definitely happen with Kane but it's something to think about despite how good he is overall.
Exactly.
We have improved/more options at arguably our weaker to Arsenal RW this season aswell (Antony, Amad, Sancho & potentially somewood).
Kane would make us better than last seasons Arsenal IMO - at least at the same level to the people who would disagree.
If we sign Hojlund then I’m less so sure compared to Kane because we don’t know how he will grow or adapt in his first season at the PL.
All ifs and buts, the deal is never going to happen. Too bad ah well.
Sure but we are not buying Kane for his pressing - we are buying him for his passing/link up play with Rashford & our RW whilst also having the ability to poach 20 goals.
Does Jesus’s hold up play measure well against Kane’s?
Jesus hardly played last year due to injury aswell - so Kane should be better than Nketiah.
Just have to hope he waits it out but nah I think he will decide it's time for new experience
I am of the opinion that we're definitely after Kane. I don't think we'll sign Hojlund until Kane is definitely off the table. I think we're waiting to see the outcome of the negotiations with Bayern to see what price Spurs will come to the table.
There wouldn't be so much definite stances from the likes of Stone,Whitwell,Ducker & Crook if that was the case which there clearly is looking at recent tweets from all of them
Not this summer certainly
yeah agree, but maybe a 5% chance that will require harry to be fully on board
eg tell Levy it’s United or nothing
He isn't ever doing that unfortunately
I think the ship has sailed. If Spurs were as open to selling him as they seemingly are now, we would've put all our eggs into the Harry Kane basket. Keep DDG around, rely on Fred / McT / Mainoo to cover for Eriksen and Casemiro and go all out for Kane.
We're too far along to change that now.
We're too far along to change that now.
I think Spurs were expecting us to be going in hard for him and were planning to use the end of the window to force the price up.
As it is, we clearly haven’t really shown the interest they expected and they are panicking a bit that they’re going to lose him for free so they’re drumming up interest.
We’d be fools not to try and get in his ear about signing for free next summer. Not gonna fork out this summer anyways. Does seem like he’s finally off in this window though so probably missed that boat.
Yep I agree but I never fully followed why they were delaying it (more money is one reason of course, but still). Late in the window means they won't have enough time to find replacements, they got a new head coach who I assume they don't want to piss off right away and a team that's in trouble. It made sense for all parties to get the deal done early.
agree it’s unlikely but surely it’s possible given leaving on a free will be great for him financially anyway?
Everyone saying if he goes to Bayern they are the second best side in Europe etc. Did everyone forget Bayern were bang average in the league last season and then got steamrolled by City?
I would argue with Ten Hag and the players we have now we should be beating Bayern in the near future. We have seemingly more riches and a great manager.
If a takeover happens Kane would be kicking himself if he moved to Bayern this summer and watched us hoover up top talent once FFP and the Glazer’s do one. More possible than them staying still at this point.
He could become the all time greatest PL goalscorer here which is far better than any Bundesliga title if you ask me.
Bayern will win that with or without him regardless.
Also Kim moved to Bayern only because he wasn’t a guaranteed starter here I imagine and our indecision with the limited budget. We are 100% the bigger draw. Sabitzer said it himself we are a naturally bigger club.
Bayern had a great 10 years but end of the day if we have the cash he comes here full stop.
I would argue with Ten Hag and the players we have now we should be beating Bayern in the near future. We have seemingly more riches and a great manager.
If a takeover happens Kane would be kicking himself if he moved to Bayern this summer and watched us hoover up top talent once FFP and the Glazer’s do one. More possible than them staying still at this point.
He could become the all time greatest PL goalscorer here which is far better than any Bundesliga title if you ask me.
Bayern will win that with or without him regardless.
Also Kim moved to Bayern only because he wasn’t a guaranteed starter here I imagine and our indecision with the limited budget. We are 100% the bigger draw. Sabitzer said it himself we are a naturally bigger club.
Bayern had a great 10 years but end of the day if we have the cash he comes here full stop.
We need more than a striker to break Manchester City dominance, even one better than Kane. Arsenal are also ahead of us. Chelsea will be better next year. Our squad was way too thin last season and will be again, so we will drop loads of points end of season as City go on a strength in depth power run like always. As usual the Caf has unrealistic expectations. 2nd would be a very good result this year unless Qatar sweeps in and waves the chequebook real soon. 3rd or 4th is more what I expect. 5th and 6th is possible if Liverpool and Newcastle outperform expectations.
And Kane isn't that good or it would be more than Bayern in for him. You can be quite slow in Germany.
Good point and Kane definitely offers more than Jesus overall as a CF. I still think that we can't afford any passengers out of possession and I worry that Kane would be just that. He's pretty static in his overall play and I just worry that he'd make us very predictable. I do concede that there isn't a striker on the market that offers all the traits we're looking for, I just don't think it's wise to spend the required amount on a player who's physically declining.