He'll be expected to tuck into midfield anyway with the inverted fullback modern trend.
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He'll be expected to tuck into midfield anyway with the inverted fullback modern trend.
I agree with you, Luke.
I really hope he is fit for the tour, I think he can play his way into contention.
Should be, he played at the U17s Euros.
It would be good if this kid turns out ready and saves us 50m on a new LB.
He could eventually, but the big question here is the timing. We can't count on Shaw or Malacia's fitness and Amass is still only 17. So it'd be a big risk going into next season without a LB signing.
LCB who could fill in out there in a pinch might be fine though (Branthwaite?). Dalot has done fairly well at LB generally so we'd have options there as long as Wan Bissaka stays or we bring in a replacement RB option if he goes.
In theory yes. But as far as I know he’s never played LB at Everton. Five minutes at PSV. So we don’t really know anything about him as a LB. It could also take three years for Amass to be ready, who knows?
I’d sign a LB this summer. If Amass is good enough, he’ll break through and get games regardless. We need two anyway.
I always think your 3rd option should be a youth player coming through, but thats just what my own personal preference would be when squad building. I am willing to live with mistakes from younger players, it is up to the coaches to not be dicks about it and actually teach and develop.
Ideally yes, I agree. Then again sometimes you’ve got to give them more of a chance when they’ve deserved it. Or have a dozen defenders injured and you’ll play them anyway.
I would be fine with a rotation of Shaw, Malacia, Amass, and Dalot. Are we expecting Shaw and Malacia to miss as much as they did last season? If no, then go with Amass to give Dalot rest.
If we're trying to keep the ball, Amass is perfect for the tucked in fb role. He's not a guy that is going to go up and down the byline. He's great at keeping possession by being press resistant. This would allow Dalot to go forward on the right.
If we're trying to keep the ball, Amass is perfect for the tucked in fb role. He's not a guy that is going to go up and down the byline. He's great at keeping possession by being press resistant. This would allow Dalot to go forward on the right.
If it was a guarantee that Shaw would stay fit for say 80% of the season, I’d agree. No idea what Malacia’s situation is. I’d probably sell/loan him but it would understandably be difficult to find clubs willing to take that risk as things stand.
I think his one of maybe 5 or 6 that will go on pre season with a chance of being with the squad for the new season, especially in European games. Not saying he will be a regular but I think the manager knows his investment in youth paid of for him in the end.
Still needs to bulk up unfortunately.
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I couldn't agree more
I'm excited to see how he does in the preseason games. With Shaw playing in the Euros and seemingly no update on Malacia's fitness, Amass will get plenty of gametime you'd think.
I agree with the key word 'timing', yeah.
Amass isn't yet ready for regular first team action, and so the huge question marks over the availability of Shaw and Malacia for next season complicate the issue.
Ideally we would have Amass as the rarely used 3rd choice LB while he mostly plays U21's next season - however the injury issues with the senior LB's do leave us vulnerable to similar problems as we faced last season if we go into it gambling on their fitness.
It's a tricky balance obviously, as we can't really afford to be overloaded at LB if they do happen to stay fit a lot more, but then we can't afford to end up in a similarly avoidable position as we ended up in last season.
It's a tough call.
I think we should be looking at loan options perhaps if we can’t rely on Shaw / Malacia . Maybe it’s a bit soon for Amass but time will tell. No one on here would have guessed how Mainoo’s season would have panned out this time last year.
Personally I think we should loan Malacia out for the season, he needs a season playing regularly.
Amass would be best kept with the u21s for half a season and potentially loan him out the latter half of the season.
Signing Kerkez or another LB would make sense too if the fee is right as Shaw cannot be depended on anymore.
I think Shaw is one serious injury away from retirement and Malacia was never a top 4 level left back. We need a new starting left back for next season and Amass could be mopping up appearances in cup games.
Malacia won't be ready to play at the start of the season. If it is true that he didn't have a full training session at all as was reported the day before the Cup final, then it would signal he probably is a few months out still.
I'd imagine if he can get back within the next few months, he will probably play at least a few weeks in reserve grade before he slowly reintegrates into the side after 14-16 months out.
We could explore a loan in January depending on his fitness.
Would love to see him start against Barnsley. The next U21s game is a week away too.
Reports linking him to Villa oddly.
Hopefully not one of those PSR workaround deals.
Not that convinced by the quality of the sources.
He’s under contract until 2027 but reads as though the club may consider a Fernandez style deal with buy back. Not sure why Villa though as he wouldn’t play for them yet either?
Even Maatsen can't get a game for Villa right now. Not to mention that when Cash got injured on the other side of the defense, Emery played Konsa at RB instead of Nedeljkovic or Bogarde, if I'm not mistaken, so he might not put a lot of trust into inexperienced teenagers.
I don't think we have a PSR problem.
TEAMtalk, The Sun and some random United twitter account with 3692 followers don’t worry me.
We probably do if we want to buy a proven striker in the summer, but this IMO is nonsense, he's 17 and shown a lot of promise and just needs some experience and to fill out a bit physically before he's ready to play for the first team
Our net spend this season was healthy whilst also selling a lot of players for "pure profit", like Greenwood, McTominay, Carreras, and Kambwala.
Ratcliffe will also probably invest a further chunk of money into the club before next summer arrives.
I think cash flow is the only potential problem we might encounter, like we did last summer, but Ineos have a good number of months to solve that issue as well.
I personally think Ineos have been getting ready for a big summer in 2025, even with their actions last summer.
I would like to see Amass developed with our first team and not on loans even to solid clubs like Villa. Chances will be fewer for sure with us, but he'll be coached under the system that hopefully he'll be playing under for the long term and loan deals typically work out poorly for our players.
Villa want to sign him permanently. Not on loan.
'You let Villa take Amass!?'
It was alluded to on the TOTD pod that he’s nowhere near ready for the first team, so maybe the club just don’t rate him that highly and he’s pushing for the move. But these sources are trash so it seems very unlikely.
Very unlikely.
The reports say we don’t want to sell and he wants to stay. But yes he is not ready for premier league football at the moment and would have an easier time getting into our team than Villa’s. I presume if it’s true it was just Villa feeling it out to see if there was a chance.
We also need some replacements, we'll need at least 2 CB's and at 1 MF as well. Evans, Maguire, Lindelof and Eriksen are out of contract and I don't see them getting new deals
Yeah, those guys are probably leaving too, although I would extend Maguire's contract if it was up to me.