Hannibal Mejbri - Manchester United Player

lysglimt said:
With the progress of several of our youngsters over the last few months, in addition to a few of our other biggest talents - Hannibal, Garner, Elanga, Laird, Shoretire, Diallo, Pellistri, Hugill to name some - realistically, 15-20 players from our current first-team squad could be gone in 18 months. I now assume 6-7 of the youngsters will be so good that they will be moved into the first-team squad. Shoretire, Diallo and Hannibal will be there - and I am convinced that from the start of the 22/23 season -at least 3-4 more players from our ranks will join them.

We have to assume we will sign a minimum of 4-5 key players over the next 2 summers - add to that: Shaw, AWB, Maguire, Rashford, Greenwood, Bruno, Fred, McTominay and Henderson should be safe (Pogba if he signs a new contract) - that in theory could mean that there could as little as 3-4 places available in the first-team squad for the remaining players we have today. Less if we sign more players.

So my guess is, in 18 months - only 3-4 of these are United-players if OGS is still in charge.

Tuanzebe, DDG, Lindelof, Telles, Bailly, James, Chong, Martial, Cavani, Mata, Andreas, v.d Beek, Matic, Lingard, Dalot, Williams, Jones, Romero, Rojo, Grant, Pereira
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Out of contract at least by the end of June '22: Romero, Grant, Matic, Mata , Cavani, Lingard.

Out on loan and probably shipped out this summer if there are any takers: Chong, Pereira (whom you count twice) and Dalot.

Already sold: Rojo.

Out of favour and possibly moved on soon: Williams.

I'd be surprised to see Ole move out his own buys (Telles, James, VdB) or Tuanzebe unless his injuries ruin his progression. DdG will hardly accept a more realistic contract elsewhere. And we'd hardly get rid of both Lindelof and Bailly, unless Ole has some serious cash to improve his options with.

Can you see the club moving Martial on? I'd be less surprised to see Woodward give him a new 4-5 year deal.

All in all, I'd expect at least 5-6 of these players to still be here at the start of the '22 season.
 
Bastian said:
Out of contract at least by the end of June '22: Romero, Grant, Matic, Mata , Cavani, Lingard.

Out on loan and probably shipped out this summer if there are any takers: Chong, Pereira (whom you count twice) and Dalot.

Already sold: Rojo.

Out of favour and possibly moved on soon: Williams.

I'd be surprised to see Ole move out his own buys (Telles, James, VdB) or Tuanzebe unless his injuries ruin his progression. DdG will hardly accept a more realistic contract elsewhere. And we'd hardly get rid of both Lindelof and Bailly, unless Ole has some serious cash to improve his options with.

Can you see the club moving Martial on? I'd be less surprised to see Woodward give him a new 4-5 year deal.

All in all, I'd expect at least 5-6 of these players to still be here at the start of the '22 season.
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I did count Pereira twice - but I should have called one Andreas and one Joel :)

It's very easy - we will never win the league if we dont have a striker who scores 15-20 goals minimum. Martial, Greenwood and Rashford all have the potential to do it. But in their current goalscoring form - we will never keep all 3, or should I say - we will sign a striker who guarantees us goals. Because let's be honest here, if Martial or Greenwood were in the same goalscoring form as last year, we would still be fighting City for the title.
And if one of those 3 players are sold to raise funds, or dropped - Martial is the obvious choice.
 
I hope one day I could see this attacking line up

DM
Hannibal Bruno
Diallo Greenwood Rashford​
 
I like Hannibal but he’s got a hard path to the first team. We are stacked in the positions he plays in.
 
Bwuk said:
I like Hannibal but he’s got a hard path to the first team. We are stacked in the positions he plays in.
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Maybe but is it really so difficult long term to dislodge McTominay for example? Not a slight on Scott I just don't think he's the 2nd coming of Roy Keane. I think there's definitely room for Hannibal to get games if he's the top talent we think he is.
 
Bwuk said:
I like Hannibal but he’s got a hard path to the first team. We are stacked in the positions he plays in.
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Not really. Matic is getting old, Pogba is likely to leave and Van De Beek has struggled to settle in. Fred and McTominay are decent players but neither are world beaters stopping his path.

Regarding his injury, I didnt see it but judging by the posts I wonder is it a subluxation.
 
Bwuk said:
I like Hannibal but he’s got a hard path to the first team. We are stacked in the positions he plays in.
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He can play as the attacking midfielder and as the left forward as witnessed in the 23s. But when he played for Monaco's u17 team, he was deployed as a play making #8.

So if he can translate his form from the 23s to the first team, he has a superb chance of nailing down a spot in the team due to how versatile he is.
 
Bwuk said:
I like Hannibal but he’s got a hard path to the first team. We are stacked in the positions he plays in.
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Only in quantity. Especially if Pogba leaves soon, which is more than likely.
 
lysglimt said:
I did count Pereira twice - but I should have called one Andreas and one Joel :)

It's very easy - we will never win the league if we dont have a striker who scores 15-20 goals minimum. Martial, Greenwood and Rashford all have the potential to do it. But in their current goalscoring form - we will never keep all 3, or should I say - we will sign a striker who guarantees us goals. Because let's be honest here, if Martial or Greenwood were in the same goalscoring form as last year, we would still be fighting City for the title.
And if one of those 3 players are sold to raise funds, or dropped - Martial is the obvious choice.
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Haha. Forgot about Joel. Surely his contract is out at the end of this season. I wholly agree on the striker/forward front, and of course there is no way in the world we'd not retain Rashford and Greenwood, and absolutely rightly so. But with Martial, he should be hitting his peak and he's still mostly potential. The most logical move would be to upgrade there but I can't see the club not "preserving value" in that regard. I could see him being dropped though, if we manage to bring in a guaranteed goal scorer, and then it's down to him whether he embraces the squad role or asks for a move.
 
spontaneus1 said:
All of our options in midfield are currently miles ahead of Hannibal.
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And who says that he should be a certain starter right at this moment? But he is more talented than Fred or McTominay (and probably van de Beek) though, so why can't he break through in a couple of seasons? We also struggle without Pogba (or with unmotivated Pogba) against the teams that sit deep, and neither of our current central midfielders (except from the already mentioned Pogba) have a necessary skillset to help us in those situations. While Hannibal has a skillset to become such a player — he's a fantastic dribbler, a great passer and he also has a great shot on him.

Is he ready to play ahead of our current starters? Obviously not. Does he have it in him to break through in a couple of years and replace them? He certainly does, even though it's far from a guarantee that he'll proceed to do so — we all know how many factors are involved in players development aside from their natural talent.
 
Hannibal is definitely an attack-minded CM box-to-box in a 3. Will grow, can tackle, hold up and pick the right pass.
High hopes from the United staff - Source. anonymous.
 
I like Mejbri, he is very promising. But when talking about potential regular first teamers, both Diallo and Shoretire are ahead of him. Partly because of the positions they are best suited to; one a RW and the other 10 or second striker; but also because they are exceptional.
 
NFM said:
I like Mejbri, he is very promising. But when talking about potential regular first teamers, both Diallo and Shoretire are ahead of him. Partly because of the positions they are best suited to; one a RW and the other 10 or second striker; but also because they are exceptional.
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Exactly. The positions such as CB and less advanced MD are the most difficult for youngsters to get in the first team. Let’s see how Ole gets him involved. I hope he can be deployed with McFred or MatiFred in certain games this season in a more advanced or free role.
 
NFM said:
I like Mejbri, he is very promising. But when talking about potential regular first teamers, both Diallo and Shoretire are ahead of him. Partly because of the positions they are best suited to; one a RW and the other 10 or second striker; but also because they are exceptional.
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Not so sure about that. Hannibal is very versatile and has a good physique. I don't think he will have any trouble settling in at first-team level. Don't you think that 10 is a difficult position? Take Angel Gomes, he barely got any chance there and got stuck on the wing.
 
NFM said:
I like Mejbri, he is very promising. But when talking about potential regular first teamers, both Diallo and Shoretire are ahead of him. Partly because of the positions they are best suited to; one a RW and the other 10 or second striker; but also because they are exceptional.
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No way is Shoretire ahead of Mejbri. Mejbri's game is easily more mature. Not to mention he is physically more ready I think.
 
I seriously think he can play wonderful stuff with Martial, Greenwood, Rashford, McFred and form chemistry right away. But not sure if Bruno also plays.
 
NFM said:
I like Mejbri, he is very promising. But when talking about potential regular first teamers, both Diallo and Shoretire are ahead of him. Partly because of the positions they are best suited to; one a RW and the other 10 or second striker; but also because they are exceptional.
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Shoretire is great, but he is absolutely tiny at the moment — a bit like Gomes was (which isn't surprising, considering that he had turned 17 just 2 weeks ago). Amad isn't much taller, but he's a special case as he clearly was signed with fast promotion in mind. Hannibal is already 1,82 meters tall and he has gained quite a bit of muscle recently — and he often uses his physicality in U-23 games. He won't be able to outmuscle adult players with such ease, but it would certainly help him with the transition.

Also, surely it's easier to break through our midfield (Fred/McTominay/Matić/Pogba/van de Beek all have different issues, be it their age, fitness, adaptation or limited skillset) rather than through the one spot that is occupied by our by far the best and the most important player that rarely misses any games?
 
harms said:
Shoretire is great, but he is absolutely tiny at the moment — a bit like Gomes was (which isn't surprising, considering that he had turned 17 just 2 weeks ago). Amad isn't much taller, but he's a special case as he clearly was signed with fast promotion in mind. Hannibal is already 1,82 meters tall and he has gained quite a bit of muscle recently — and he often uses his physicality in U-23 games. He won't be able to outmuscle adult players with such ease, but it would certainly help him with the transition.

Also, surely it's easier to break through our midfield (Fred/McTominay/Matić/Pogba/van de Beek all have different issues, be it their age, fitness, adaptation or limited skillset) rather than through the one spot that is occupied by our by far the best and the most important player that rarely misses any games?
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Mejbri is more consistent by far. Amad is a class above again but not sure why we are including Diallo as a youth recruit given he could be much older after what was exposed last week about his papers. He's a 20 million signing so should be almost straight into contention for the first team.
 
Bigsid said:
Mejbri is more consistent by far. Amad is a class above again but not sure why we are including Diallo as a youth recruit given he could be much older after what was exposed last week about his papers. He's a 20 million signing so should be almost straight into contention for the first team.
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How is this shit still going around. He was smuggled into the country using fake papers, why on earth would they need to lie about his age?
 
Bigsid said:
Mejbri is more consistent by far. Amad is a class above again but not sure why we are including Diallo as a youth recruit given he could be much older after what was exposed last week about his papers. He's a 20 million signing so should be almost straight into contention for the first team.
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I heard the issue was the papers claimed the people he was coming to Italy to live for were his parents (apparently not).

Did they mention age (and lies about age)?
 
harms said:
Shoretire is great, but he is absolutely tiny at the moment — a bit like Gomes was (which isn't surprising, considering that he had turned 17 just 2 weeks ago). Amad isn't much taller, but he's a special case as he clearly was signed with fast promotion in mind. Hannibal is already 1,82 meters tall and he has gained quite a bit of muscle recently — and he often uses his physicality in U-23 games. He won't be able to outmuscle adult players with such ease, but it would certainly help him with the transition.

Also, surely it's easier to break through our midfield (Fred/McTominay/Matić/Pogba/van de Beek all have different issues, be it their age, fitness, adaptation or limited skillset) rather than through the one spot that is occupied by our by far the best and the most important player that rarely misses any games?
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? I think Shoretire is at least 5 inches taller than Gomes.
 
Bigsid said:
Mejbri is more consistent by far. Amad is a class above again but not sure why we are including Diallo as a youth recruit given he could be much older after what was exposed last week about his papers. He's a 20 million signing so should be almost straight into contention for the first team.
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Yeah, let’s just be safe and count him as one of the senior players. Thought we were done with this shit.
 
He may well be that age and is a great talent regardless. However, given every paper (including who his parents are) were fake in entering Europe all bets are off. African born players run riot throughout academy football and worldwide junior football everywhere as birth certificates in many countries simply do not exist.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26174252
 
TwoSheds said:
Maybe but is it really so difficult long term to dislodge McTominay for example? Not a slight on Scott I just don't think he's the 2nd coming of Roy Keane. I think there's definitely room for Hannibal to get games if he's the top talent we think he is.
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Currently the second name on the team sheet, whatever you might think of his merits. And the other player we have in his position is Paul Pogba.

But it shouldn't be easy for these youngsters to break through. Hannibal's got quality, and in time he'll get his chances, and then it'll be up to him to start forcing his way in.
 
Mark Pawelek said:
? I think Shoretire is at least 5 inches taller than Gomes.
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I'm probably in the wrong here. After looking at the pictures he seems to be slightly taller than Amad, which would make him taller than Gomes. Still, in every game that I've seen with him he looked (understandably) tiny, even though he wasn't playing against fully grown adults. Hannibal, on the other hand, is a tall-ish lanky kid that's already gaining some muscle (although I'm pretty sure that he'd be gain a lot more in a few years).
 
Bigsid said:
He may well be that age and is a great talent regardless. However, given every paper (including who his parents are) were fake in entering Europe all bets are off. African born players run riot throughout academy football and worldwide junior football everywhere as birth certificates in many countries simply do not exist.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26174252
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Wrong thread?
 
RedRonaldo said:
I hope one day I could see this attacking line up

DM
Hannibal Bruno
Diallo Greenwood Rashford​
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There is a high possibility mate as they all play for us and as far as I know they are all on long contracts.
 
I love watching Hannibal and really rate him. He's got plenty of ability and definitely has the potential to break into our first team squad in the attacking midfield / wide positions. Just like Shoretire has.

Whether they do or not is a completely different matter, and depends on so many things that we can't predict at this point. How will they react to senior football and will they develop sufficiently physically to cope with it? Will they continue showing the necessary desire and hunger to make it? And will they get enough chances - depending on who we sign in their positions over the next couple of years that they'd be competing with? Will Ole still be manager by then, or someone less prepared to give youngsters a go? And so on.

It's impossible at this stage to say whether they'll definitely establish themselves in our first team squad. But both - along with Amad - definitely have the ability and potential to do so should they continue putting in the necessary work, and then be given enough chances to establish themselves.
 
Bertie Wooster said:
I love watching Hannibal and really rate him. He's got plenty of ability and definitely has the potential to break into our first team squad in the attacking midfield / wide positions. Just like Shoretire has.

Whether they do or not is a completely different matter, and depends on so many things that we can't predict at this point. How will they react to senior football and will they develop sufficiently physically to cope with it? Will they continue showing the necessary desire and hunger to make it? And will they get enough chances - depending on who we sign in their positions over the next couple of years that they'd be competing with? Will Ole still be manager by then, or someone less prepared to give youngsters a go? And so on.

It's impossible at this stage to say whether they'll definitely establish themselves in our first team squad. But both - along with Amad - definitely have the ability and potential to do so should they continue putting in the necessary work, and then be given enough chances to establish themselves.
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Yeh is impossible to tell at this stage. Even if they have break into first team, is still impossible to tell how well their career will develop.

Hit (as good as hyped, or even better)
- Class of 92
- Rashford
- Pogba
- Greenwood?
- Henderson?

Decent (about as good as expected)
- Fletcher
- Brown
- Evans
- O'shea
- Gillespie
- Rossi
- Shawcross
- King
- Lingard
- Savage
- Drinkwater
- Mctominay?
- Michael Keane

Hyped at one point but end up disappointed
- Januzaj
- Morrison
- Wellbeck
- Cleverley
- Gibson
- Wilson
- Macheda
- Pereira
- Blackett
- McNair
- Campbell
- Gibson
- Fabio
- Raphael
- Wallwork
- Cooke
- Curtis
 
TwoSheds said:
Maybe but is it really so difficult long term to dislodge McTominay for example? Not a slight on Scott I just don't think he's the 2nd coming of Roy Keane. I think there's definitely room for Hannibal to get games if he's the top talent we think he is.
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In the last 30 years, it has been rare for a talented young player to come through the youth system then dislodge a mid 20s established starter. If you go through the circumstances surrounding the breakthrough of those players that have gone on to make 50+ PL starts for United, you tend to see a fair amount of:

- dislodged older player past his prime, long term injuries providing opportunity for younger player to break through (see Gary Neville v Paul Parker, Jonny Evans helped by injuries to Ferdinand and Vidic)

- surprise departure helps young player (Kanchelskis leaving provided Beckham with his chance after we failed to buy Darren Anderton, Herrera and Fellaini leaving helped McTominay etc)

- young player fills injury related vacancies in different positions for several seasons before establishing themselves (O'Shea etc)

Key factors regarding Mejbri are likely to include his patience, adaptability and bounce-back-ability. His chances of making it at United increase significantly if he is prepared to stick around until Bruno or Scott are in their 30s, if he is capable of being a rotation player in more than one position, if he can handle being in and out of the team without it having a negative impact on his performance level.
 
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