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Thought he was good and really tried to drive things on when he came on this Sunday.
Great news, may not be good enough for us but we know for a fact that Mctominay, Fred, VDB, Maguire, Williams etc aren't good enough and aren't at the age we can expect them to get much better, rather replace them with this caliber of player where they have room for growth at least.
United have no interest in selling him permanently this summer but they could yet sanction a loan deal before deadline day if an appropriate offer comes in.
It is in the interest of all parties for the youngster to be playing regularly, and he will only be allowed to leave on a temporary deal if assurances can be made over his playing time.
That is from the original article. It also says ETH is a big fan.
Really want him to stay (and actually play). Think he has the tools for sure.
So midfield options next year could be:
Casemiro
Bruno
Mount
Amrabat
Eriksen
Mainoo
Mejbri
If all the players linked are getting sold and bought, upgrade but a little uncertainty
Casemiro
Bruno
Mount
Amrabat
Eriksen
Mainoo
Mejbri
If all the players linked are getting sold and bought, upgrade but a little uncertainty
United have no interest in selling him permanently this summer but they could yet sanction a loan deal before deadline day if an appropriate offer comes in.
It is in the interest of all parties for the youngster to be playing regularly, and he will only be allowed to leave on a temporary deal if assurances can be made over his playing time.
the report states united turned down interest from Dortmund because we don't want a permanent departure. But the feeling is him not playing regularly is seen as a backward step so loan deal is likely if an appropriate offer arrives.
Very happy with that blend. Good cover for all three midfield roles and the right blend of youth and experience. We should ideally have developmental talent in the squad in all areas of the pitch. Good succession planning.
Agree. He can replace Bruno in a few years. Just strange how some people don't see what he has to offer
I’d imagine if all 3 of McTominay, Fred and DVB are gone he has a chance of staying on. That said he would need a clear pathway for minutes.
I consider the replacement for that trio to be Mount, Amrabat and Mainoo. He could stay but he'll be feeding off scraps.
I've really enjoyed watching the lad play since we signed him from Monaco. He's a player who doesn't hide and constantly wants the ball to make a difference. I think he's a natural midfielder in the sense that he can receive the ball from deeper areas and progress play. I hope he's given games if he stays but it's good to hear that he's made a impression during preseason. This is the type of player we should be giving chances to imo but unfortunately we've given chances to the wrong type of player in the past.
I also agree with what Phil Brown is saying below.
I would rather keep him and see where we stand in January. Mainoo is already injured, so that bumps him up. We have loads of games and we need to do a better job of rotating, last year we just didn’t have the talent to do so. End of season we looked knackered.
Rather we save the funds, use Hannibal and put the money for another striker as we are still so lacking if Hojlund gets another injury or doesn't adapt immediately.
I think he has some good raw potential to developed into our future no.8, with good mix of technique and passion.
What do you lot think his current strength/weakness are?
What do you lot think his current strength/weakness are?
We definitely need another experienced midfielder if we sell McTominay and Fred
We definitely need another senior midfielder is the likes of Mcfred are leaving.
I think midfield is our most experienced sector, Bruno, Mount, Casemiro & Eriksen all have experience at the absolute top level consistently. Neither Martial or Hojlund do and I don't think Rashford is a striker
Agree. Not sure why people like to assume even the Birmingham loan was poor. He's always been exceptional technically, but Birmingham is a team that relishes the rough and tumble and he handled himself well.
I remain a bit disappointed that he didn't show more of his technical skills there after the first few months. I maintain that he seemed to embrace the hussle a bit too eagerly
and shortly after didn't show too much of his passing and ability to just glide past challenges in the middle of the park.That said, he still had the second highest number of assists, and by far the highest number assists/mins in the team.
You don't find many players with his skillset that combine that natural technique with his work ethic. He has the potential to be some player, and even at this point, I feel he should be ahead of 1 or 2 of the senior players ahead of him
I was concerned with his playing time this pre-season, and started to buy into the fact that maybe EtH didn't fancy him, however, from the body language whenever they interact, the boss often has an arm around his shoulder, explaining things, even in training videos, that didn't seem the case. I suppose we'll see. I really want him here in any case, and would love to see him put it all together
They are experienced but there’s 3 positions that need depth, who knows how much Eriksen has left in the tank too. Also there’s no player who can cover Casemiro. Hojlund, Martial, Rashford and Sancho at push as a false 9 looks to be the plan at striker. It helps that we only play with one.
Extremely pleased with this news; puts to bed my doubts on ETH’s regard for him. Wonder if he’ll get PT.
Well of course the signings can always flop and youngsters fail to step up, so like you say, no certainty.
But I really like the balance of options both in terms of individual strenghts, ages, suitability to certain positions. If you compare it to last seasons options, there is so much more sutability, balance and key strengths for the three midfild positions amongst them.
Really godo to read Hannibal isnt going to be sold. I hope both he and Pellestri are not loaned. Young and inexperienced, but I think at this point in there careers, Mainoo and Amrabat both offer more than McFred in CM, Mount and Hannibal offer more than Sabitzer and Eriksen and there are also far more options if Fernandes in rested or injured /suspended as well as the obvious oe of better cover for Casemeiro. Also feel Hannibal benefits more from having his temparent ad abilities harnessed towards training for a role under Ten Hag than going out on loan
For the first time in a long time, I think on paper our first eleven is decent all round, no major wekanesses, also think our bench options for the three attacking spots are decent as well as midfield and ok at full back too.
Get a cb like Todibo and I think we are well equipped to progress well from last season, something we have failed to do the season after a CL qualification one for a long time and I fel Hannibal has a part to play in that both from the bench chasing a game or resting key attackign midfielders and if he can take those opportunities, no reason he cant breakthrough this season.....other side of the coin is the lack of chances Pellestri got last year when nobody on the right was consistently that good
It seems to me Eriksen has regressed significantly and we probably will see more decline this new season. So, new blood who are eager to make impact are super important. Really hope ETH can find the right opportunities to give them, Mainoo, Hannibal, etc right situations to play and develop with the whole squad. That’s the sustainable team building approach.
I fully agree that he can become an international class midfielder. All players progress different so no judgment from me. Also people underestimate the value of a managers trust. The freedom to play without fear.
He doesn't meet the physical requirements needed to excel in top-level football. Especially his lower body is very thin, and it doesn't seem to have improved over the past few years. If a player has a clear weakness, they are also judged based on their ability to improve it. I understand that there can be exceptions, but I see Hannibal as an average player technically, which cannot compensate for his physical shortcomings.
Furthermore, he struggled to get playing time on the Tunisian national team, where players from much weaker leagues got more playing time than he did.
Is there something I have missed about Hannibal that has surprised many people here?"
Furthermore, he struggled to get playing time on the Tunisian national team, where players from much weaker leagues got more playing time than he did.
Is there something I have missed about Hannibal that has surprised many people here?"
I'd agree about him being quite a small frame for midfield tussles in senior football at the moment - there seems to be a recurring joke about young players needing to 'bulk up', but I'd say that does actually apply to Hannibal to some extent.
I think 'struggling to get playing time for Tunisia' is a harsh way to describe a 20 year old, with limited senior club experience, who has already got 24 international caps and featured in about 3 international tournaments for them as a sub or starter.
And I definitely think 'average player technically' is very harsh. He's good and very comfortable on the ball, always looking to drive forward with it and link up in attacks and with the kind of vision and technical player to be the playmaking midfielder.
Definitely think you're underselling him technically, as I think he's a very talented player in that respect. And he has the potential all round game - currently raw in many aspects - to develop into a very good #8 or #10 type attacking midfielder.
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We need to renew his contract if we are to send him out on loan for a year, as by the time he comes back he will only have a year left.
Seems like Ten Hag decided one of the thing we need to kick on is just more pressing and running in the middle since that seems to be the primary quality that Mount and Hannibal bring to the table.
It's not the primary quality Hannibal brings though. It's in his locker, yes, but there are a lot more things he's better known for on the ball.
Whenever I've seen him it's the running that really pops.
Not your fault, we never had any runners in midfield for a long time
Its what he's primarily done playing senior games. I know in the youth team he showed more.
Also he rarely actually touched the ball for Birmingham when I caught a half a couple times.
As @Glorio said, Hannibal has an awful lot more to his game from a technical point of view than that.
There's some (limited) players that, yeah, their best attribute is work rate and being able to keep going all the game. Hannibal is much more than that. He's very good on the ball and is always looking to get on it and pull the strings in midfield.
He'd shown that much more in all the youth games than in his brief competitive opportunities for United. But in this years PSF's he really got to show a lot of his ability on the ball and oozed quality at times. I'm surprised if you watched him in the recent friendlies - such as the Wrexham game - and still only thought of him mainly as a runner and not a technically gifted ball player.
He can dribble certainly, but I think jury is out on his passing based on his senior games. Don't watch reserves so others obviously know him better than me, but Gore looked a better passer and as we know very few academy players ever pass the ball well enough to make the grade here in midfield for us. So that'd be the main thing I'd have been looking out for if he got a loan. As it is, I imagine Ten Hag is keeping him around for energy and running in midfield with Eriksen the creative option.
Hannibal is immense. He has the qualities Bruno lacks in that he’s better on the ball…ETH can improve him….he can be as good as Odegaard. Odegaard wasn’t as good Arteta worked with him. Hannibal shows quite a high level despite never having gotten high level coaching for a prolonged period of time and that loan to Birmingham was bullshit(it was ETH’s first season) so he didn’t have time to assess him well but he needed a loan to a technical team.
Thats the thing, its pretty obvious to you and me and yet we have folks here who don't see it and that he offers nothing special.
He is a technical player with a high motor -- and that's something you can't teach.
When the boss spends time talking to a player… he likes him. Last season Eric was on camera talking to Kobbie for an extended period of time… he’s a smart coach and that’s his way of establishing a relationship with a player he likes. I think wrexham game was the turning point because the next game against atletico he held his shoulder and gave him lengthy instructions. Kobbie, Hannibal, Dan Gore are the future of united midfield for years to come
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