Guns n Roses still divas after all these years
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Stop throwing bottles, assholes.
I have no idea why anybody pays to go to a gig of a band that they must like and then proceeds to throw bottles on stage at that act.
Stupid behaviour from GNR alright but I can't understand the idiots in the crowd who feel the need to throw stuff.
Stupid behaviour from GNR alright but I can't understand the idiots in the crowd who feel the need to throw stuff.
I don't think it was stupid at all. They gave the crowd fair warning.
Crowds own fault. Bunch of knobheads.
They were an hour late on stage.....
Made one of the best rock and roll albums of all time but Axl disappeared up his own arsehole about 20 years ago.
Made one of the best rock and roll albums of all time but Axl disappeared up his own arsehole about 20 years ago.
Don't know about divas; more like arse holes.
I don't know if it was cool back when they we big, but it all feels a bit staged now. They turned up precisely an hour late when I saw them. None of this is helped by the fact that Axl is a fat middle aged man, who can't sing.
I don't know if it was cool back when they we big, but it all feels a bit staged now. They turned up precisely an hour late when I saw them. None of this is helped by the fact that Axl is a fat middle aged man, who can't sing.
An hour is pretty good going for Axl. If you pay to see them, you know what to expect.
I am a tad disappointed, I can't stand Rose and was coming in here to blast him, but (other than coming on late, which they ALWAYS do), I don't think he has done anything wrong here.
I am a tad disappointed, I can't stand Rose and was coming in here to blast him, but (other than coming on late, which they ALWAYS do), I don't think he has done anything wrong here.
I'd have bottled the shit out of them, but then again I wouldn't have paid money to see them specifically.
Back about 1986/87 they were the coolest thing on the planet, a breath of fresh air when compared to the other bands knocking round at the time.
Then 1991 came along and Nirvana fecked everything up for them.
I still maintain if Axl had his ego under control and instead of the epic Use Your Illusion albums had just release 1 12 track album with the best tracks of UYI it would have been unreal.
I agree...If he said: “Here is the deal. One more bottle up here and we go. We don’t want to go. Your choice.”
Then it's fecking fair play...Call 'em Divas if you like, but if you were playing and some gimp threw a bottle at you after you'd said don't throw bottles or I'll stop...you'd stop..
Once again people expecting celebrities to act differently to normal people by sheer virtue of them being famous ..
Fair play to 'em for even coming back at all...
Crowd = Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime
Why the Carlton Palmer would you pay to go to a concert, and then throw a bottle at the band when they've already said they'll walk if you do it....??
"Irishman walks into a gig....."
Exactly. I don't blame them for walking off.
I wouldn't threaten to walk in the first place.... not my style.
"call them divas if you want" ? Axls the best known diva in the business for feck sake, this is the man who appeared in a video where he dived off an aircraft carrier into the ocean to swim with dolphins, even his bandmates said they were mortified....
I'm not expecting him to act any differently because he's a celebrity, you come across plenty of divas involved in music, some famous some not so....
Its not the end of the world to be called a diva, particularly if you're a well known diva whose just acted like a diva.
"call them divas if you want" ? Axls the best known diva in the business for feck sake, this is the man who appeared in a video where he dived off an aircraft carrier into the ocean to swim with dolphins, even his bandmates said they were mortified....
I'm not expecting him to act any differently because he's a celebrity, you come across plenty of divas involved in music, some famous some not so....
Its not the end of the world to be called a diva, particularly if you're a well known diva whose just acted like a diva.
What would you have done instead?
I love GNR (except the dodgy punk covers album), but Axl can be a complete twat at times. Well, all the time.
Watching videos of their tour in Asia last year, he can still sing. Take Nightrain in Tokyo, where he decides to sing the first verse about an octave higher than usual.
But turning up for shows late, being a general knob, and firing Buckethead makes it very difficult for me to have any patience with him.
Watching videos of their tour in Asia last year, he can still sing. Take Nightrain in Tokyo, where he decides to sing the first verse about an octave higher than usual.
But turning up for shows late, being a general knob, and firing Buckethead makes it very difficult for me to have any patience with him.
OK, the dolphins and what not seems pretty diva-ish...if not also fantastically cool...but I can't see what was diva-ish here...
Are you honestly saying that if people were throwing bottles at you in a gig, you'd just calmly carry on like a fecking Buddah?...If so, fair play, but I don't see what would be wrong with walking off.
Yeah they were late so some Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime threw bottles...fine. But after he'd said, "if you don't stop, we'll go"..it's the crowds own fecking fault...I would've turned on the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime that did it personally, and to blame the band for simply sticking to what they said they'd do, and not the retard throwing beer bottles at a band he'd paid to see just seems a little churlish...hence the "blaming the celebs" bit. I'd blame the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime
Are you honestly saying that if people were throwing bottles at you in a gig, you'd just calmly carry on like a fecking Buddah?...If so, fair play, but I don't see what would be wrong with walking off.
Yeah they were late so some Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime threw bottles...fine. But after he'd said, "if you don't stop, we'll go"..it's the crowds own fecking fault...I would've turned on the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime that did it personally, and to blame the band for simply sticking to what they said they'd do, and not the retard throwing beer bottles at a band he'd paid to see just seems a little churlish...hence the "blaming the celebs" bit. I'd blame the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime
The way he struts round stage is pretty homo-erotic, or at least I found it to be.
Yeah I think so. Nirvana moved the plates completely and from that point onwards 1980's style rock music was on the decline. You don't hear that type of music these days
There would have been a reason for the crowd to throw bottles.
There were 13,000 people there, when you get that many people together you tend to get a couple of wankers. Then when you leave them standing round for 2 hours before you play a few will probably get a bit irate.... best thing to do would probably be to show some humility and issue some sort of rallying call when you went on to get them behind you, not to have your guitarist wind them up by playing the intro to a song over and over, listen while the crowd gets more and more abusive and then throw all your toys out of the pram when someone throws a plastic bottle at you.
As for people expecting celebs to act superhuman or something... Turn that on its head, you reckon he behaved like that on sunset strip back in the 80's or do you reckon he just started it when he got famous and turned into a bit of an Elton John wannabe?
He probably swings both ways
The fan who's ranting at the end of that video is pretty much correct, Axl's douchebaggery is amazing though, always good for a few laughs. I'd never pay to this band now, if a dude can't handle a few bottles being thrown, then he should just stop, it's happens to every band, and I mean the bands like MCR/KoL have taken it even worse and didn't bitch off this bad, although they did moan themselves ><
Which was?....
As I said, they obviously threw them first cos they were late...which says a lot about the kind of retards in the crowd for a start...but after the band explicitly said "don't do it, or we're off"...it's their own fecking fault. I don't see how the band can be criticised at all for simply doing what they said they'd do. If they were throwing knives onto the stage, you'd clearly have no problem with it
How can that bitch J-Lo consider herself a diva? I bet the bitch has never even dived from a plane into an ocean of dolphins. Diva's - it's all about the dolphins. Well in Popper.
Precisely. He only acts like a wanker because he knows he can.
He probably wouldn't have acted that way in the 80s no,...but he's a different person 20 years on...People grow up. Again, you're excusing the mongery of your average joe and gunning for the normality of the famous person...He should always remain as a live free die hard 20 year old rocker in your mind...but not his..He changed like everyone else does. It's unfair to expect him to conform to your ideal of him really
Just because "hey it's rock and roll man" isn't really a valid argument...the person who threw bottle after he'd said he'd walk is to blame..
You get more than 13,000 inside OT every week..and when someone throws a bottle onto the pitch they're rightly lambasted as a pillock.
Daphne and Celeste took way more shit being thrown at them at Ozzfest. I guess this makes them more rock and roll than G 'n' R, who I've seen live and have no idea why they're still touring. It's not for the fans, that's for sure.
Anyway, more alarming than the bottle throwing are people who go to gigs and then film it, all in my opinion. Like the gimp in the youtube video. It's worse than doing it at the football
Anyway, more alarming than the bottle throwing are people who go to gigs and then film it, all in my opinion. Like the gimp in the youtube video. It's worse than doing it at the football
He has always been a complete asshole. Even before they became famous. This is nothing new.
an hour late on stage, then the guitarist started winding up the audience
Mockney in 'knowing half the story and taking a position' shocker
What have knives got to do with anything? Clearly a totally different circumstance.
If the band weren't acting like divas, showing up an hour late and then inciting the crowd there wouldn't have been a problem. You can poke a bear and them tell it to calm down or you're not playing anymore once it loses it temper.
I dont give a shit mind, I still think they've some brilliant songs, pity Axl's ego super inflated and fecked up the band though.
Pretty much every band shows up late...it's still not an excuse to throw shit at them
You've clearly already decided the band are Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime and the audience bad ass...so it's unlikely to please you I don't agree.
And as for "half the story"...I've read the same thing you have and arrived at a different opinion is all. Unless you were there of course...which of course you may have been
Also, I don't really care
You've clearly already decided the band are Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime and the audience bad ass...so it's unlikely to please you I don't agree.
And as for "half the story"...I've read the same thing you have and arrived at a different opinion is all. Unless you were there of course...which of course you may have been
Also, I don't really care
Which one? They've got three to choose from. Doubt it was Ron Thal though, as he is awesome and can do no wrong.
Whats also missed is that most fans that went to the gig thought it was the usual 11pm curfew. GNR we're over an hour late and started at around 10:30. I reckon most thought they we're only going to do a 30 min set, for €75.....when the bloody shite support band played for an hour and 20 minutes. From what I've read from people there it was obvious the support band we're on way too long and 'stalling'
Glad I'm not a fan of Guns n Roses to be honest. I'd have been pissed as hell.
Glad I'm not a fan of Guns n Roses to be honest. I'd have been pissed as hell.
Enter Shikari didn't turn up late when I saw them.
Just saying, like.
Just saying, like.
you're the only person in the world I've ever heard say Axl Rose has 'grown up'.Jesus, I've no ideal of him, I've no ideal of anyone. I judge people on their actions.
Again, Axl Rose, normal
have you actually read anything about him? do you know anything about the history of the band? One of the first original members to leave was his best mate.I'm not saying the person who threw the bottle isn't to blame. He's to blame for throwing the bottle. Is he to blame for them walking off? Not in my opinion, that was their own decision and in my book you take the responsibility for the consequences of your actions.
The way you're spinning it I could say the ultimate responsibility for the person throwing the bottle lies with the band for being an hour late.
Absolutely, but the players dont all storm off in a huff do they?
have I? Clearly? Badass? I said they acted like divas, they did.... its not the first time, its not the last time and its not the end of the world. I actually think its quite funny.Well I wasn't there no, but a couple of mates were, there's also the video of course.
Mockney in 'wading into a thread, arguing a half informed point and then pointing out that he doesn't care' shocker.... you're becoming horribly predictable Mockers.
Oh, and not in Ireland. The O2 has an 11pm curfew (they took the stage at 10.30) so most people would've assumed they'd get to see half an hour.
Last gig I was there for was Bob Dylan who started half an hour early.
Players have walked off for racial abuse in the past (not at OT obviously) and I don't blame them...If people continuously threw bottles onto the pitch and Fergie pulle the team off, I'd have no problem with that and blame the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime in the crowd for it.
OK...take this example: At a football match, everyone agrees you pay to see and support your team. Booing is generally frowned upon and people call those who show their displeasure at a bad performance Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime...
Apparently when you pay to see a concert though...You can do whatever the feck you like and they have to take it?
I watched the video...the bloke making it was a pillock...they were trying to start the song and work up the crowd (which happens a lot and a lot of people like at concerts like this....plus there's a lot of people cheering) and he's just booing like an angry idiot, determined not to enjoy the show and those with that attitude in the crowd who threw shit, were obviously determined to ruin it for those who were ready to enjoy it in my opinion...that's what I got from watching that vid really.
I honestly don't see what the band did too wrong here...yes it was a bit precious I agree...but those in the crowd booing and throwing shit were just as mongish if not more so than the band to me....Plus, they did actually come back and finish the set.
But meh, I don't care about GnR, so there's no point in my arguing it really (like pretty much 90% of my arguments on here).
Meh, carry on.
There's a difference between a bad performance and turning up an hour late. If the team turned up an hour late and were only able to play half an hour because of there over inflated ego, I'd boo and bottle the shit out of them.
Have I said otherwise? I just called them divas, I didn't demand a public stoning.
Again, I never said anything to the contrary.
They didn't play half an hour though did they Scene boy...they played a full set until 1am