They both needed each other to make GnR, it's as simple as that.
Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy
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They both needed each other to make GnR, it's as simple as that.
Yeah. Hence the Oasis reference. Imagine Oasis without Liam or Noel.
Yeah, they`d just be another shitty indie outfit like Snow Patrol. Big fecking loss.
Oasis? Oasis would have done fine without Liam Gallagher who did feck all apart from scream down the mic and get high. He's a talentless shite.
Can't be arsed getting in a big Oasis argument, but thats a drastic generalisation. Liam Gallagher is a brilliant frontman, and if you think all he does is scream into the mic i'd advise you to listen to Slide Away, Champagne Supernova etc etc.
You only have to look/listen at/to The Masterplan to see that Liam was not required at all.
Thats an album full of b-sides. Or are you talking about the song?
The song!
FFS, don't try to make out that Liam Gallagher has a great voice, because he doesn't. However Noel's is no worse.
FFS, don't try to make out that Liam Gallagher has a great voice, because he doesn't. However Noel's is no worse.
Thats 1 song. The great thing about Oasis is that different songs suit Noel or Liams voice. Do you think Cigarettes and Alcohol, Some Might Say, Slide Away, etc etc would have been as good with Noel on the vocals?
Yes.
nearly anybody could fill in for Liam, to be honest.
Snow Patrol seem to be doing rather well for themselves though
Let's face it, even Kermit the Frog would be an improvement on that egotistical tosser.
Bollocks.
Critics are right to cite Liam's voice as shite these days, the drug and alcohol abuse has taken its toll; but up until probably '99 his voice was one of (if not THE) the best of his generation - setting Oasis apart from other bands. Primarily, Oasis are nothing without Noel - but Liam in their early years was almost as important to the band as his elder brother.
And another thing, why does every fecking music thread on this forum turn into an Oasis debate...?
Are you really saying that Liam Gallagher HAD a good singing voice?
Fixed.
Are you really saying that Liam Gallagher has a good singing voice?
Since when are rock and roll singers meant to have the voice of an angel? No, like Liam and Noel say ;
Liam has the better voice, noels the better singer.
Liams voice is perfect for Oasis' sound.
I saw Oasis before they were even known, but Liam has never had a good singing voice ever. Yes, it fits their style, but it's nothing that Noel could not have done himself. What started this argument is that you said that Liam and Noel were as necessary to Oasis as Rose and Slash were to GnR. It's a silly thing to say.
When you say "generation", what sort of time period are we talking about?
Ok, I'll try put it this way.
Ian Brown + John Squire = The Stone Roses
When Ian Brown went off on his own, was it the same, just with someone else on the guitar? No...the same way G'N'R aren't the same without Slash.
Actually, you didn't actually argue with my point, Weaste. 
My apologies
My apologiesthe 20th century
If you look purely at the 90s, hes got to be up there, you can't deny that
Because a lot of the people on here have a very limited musical vocabulary. It`s one of the reasons that a thread on tedious has beens like Metallica can run to like four pages plus. Their fans haven`t moved on. Same with Oasis.
Well, that's the fault of people that bring it up in the first place.
maybe...I don't really wanna know.
anyone who can plug their nose and talk could sing that. a few lines up your nose and you've got the swagger as well.
I fecking love Mancs, they're all tossers.
This is one of the most ignorant posts i've read in a while. Maybe Liam isn't the best singer technically but he has done a shit load for Oasis in many respects, do you honestly think Oasis would be as big if Liam wasn't there generating publicty & making the papers every other week (especially in the 90's). In 2006, Q Magazine voted Liam the 11th best singer of all time. Now i don't personally agree with this but you'd be an idiot to think that he was a talentless shite.
There are plenty of bands how don't have a on paper good singer but they have something more. Ozzy Osbourne can't really sing but never stopped Black Sabbath from being a great band, Bobby Gilespie can't sing or dance but he pretty much IS Primal Scream. Neil Young's voice famously gets on peoples tits.
One of the most frustrating things for me is people who are ignorant about music, everyone is entitled to their opinion but some people sound like they don't really know what they are talking about half the time.
I'm not ignorant about music, I've studied "music" quite extensively.
He's a talentless shite because he brought nothing to any of their compositions. Even his singing, if Noel had done it himself, they would not have been any less successful. In fact, Noel has a better voice.
No Liam:
I just read that Dr. Pepper is giving out free coupons since this album came out this year. I guess earlier in the year they said if it was released in 08, they'd give out free Dr. Pepper to Americans. Fantastic news.
To get back on topic, Guns 'n' Roses sucks big time.
My point is that Noel could have sung that. He wrote the bloody thing. It would have been slightly different, yes, but would not have distracted from what it is.
The crazy thing here is that that first album was brilliant and refreshing, and all Noel Gallagher's work basically.
The crazy thing here is that that first album was brilliant and refreshing, and all Noel Gallagher's work basically.
Wouldn't have been as good, fact.
It's not a fact at all. And the brilliant thing is, you wouldn't have even known any different.
lol...who works at Q? Bowie, Al Green,Mercury,James brown,axel rose, etc.didnt even make the list.
Q magazine needs to get its head out of Oasis's Arse.
I'm not a fan of Q really, i was just using it as an example of how weaste was being a bit hasty saying Liam was a talentless shite. When a well respected publication has put him quite high up in their list of singers.
Nah Liam was a great front man, without him it wouldnt be the same. But vocal ability..im not so sure.
Axel on the other hand was a great front man with a great vocal to back up the attitude.
Tbh i dont think Slash is half as important to GNR as people are saying.. this album was always gonna be hard to live up to, after waiting 15 years lol.
Axel on the other hand was a great front man with a great vocal to back up the attitude.
Tbh i dont think Slash is half as important to GNR as people are saying.. this album was always gonna be hard to live up to, after waiting 15 years lol.
I've heard Noel sing it plenty of times.