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Manchester United's Nani contemplates move to Serie A | Football | The Guardian

Nani is the latest Manchester United player to contemplate his future at Old Trafford, with the Portugal winger considering the possibility of severing his ties with the club in the summer.

The 24-year-old is intrigued by the prospect of moving to Italy and has spoken at length with his family and his agent, Jorge Mendes, about whether a move to Serie A would be possible and if it is the right point of his career to try to make it happen.

His thinking is not based on any serious discontent with his current employers, with Nani relatively settled in Manchester and enjoying his new status as one of Sir Alex Ferguson's more important players, but he is coming to the end of his fourth season in England and has started to believe it might be time for a different challenge, if not this summer then almost certainly next.

Nani's belief is that he has done as well as anyone could have been expected to filling the void left by Cristiano Ronaldo's departure and that a Premier League or European Cup winners' medal at the end of this season would leave him with little more to achieve at United.

Ferguson has talked him out of wanting to leave once before, in the 2010 January transfer window, but the player of then and now are vastly different in terms of their worth to the side. Nani's development into a wide player of penetration and confidence has led to him scoring 10 times and accumulating 15 assists this season, in contrast to his earlier days when there were only sporadic flashes of the talent that persuaded United to pay about £18m to sign him from Sporting Lisbon.

The winger, who has been declared fit for the Champions League tie against Marseille after recovering ahead of schedule from a gashed left leg, is currently playing the best football of his life, to the point where there is a firmly held belief at Old Trafford that he should be a realistic contender for the player of the season shortlist.

The Guardian broke the story of United signing the then 20-year-old Nani in 2007 and has spoken to the same sources in Portugal to establish that 12 months since signing a new four-year contract at United, he is deliberating over several scenarios depending on what happens before the end of the season. Importantly, he is willing to wait to see what pans out, in contrast to the way Ronaldo made it a personal mission to leave for Real Madrid.

In that regard similarities can be made with the cases of Patrice Evra and Nemanja Vidic, who were both tempted by moves to Spain before concluding that they would be better off staying in Manchester and signing new contracts. Wayne Rooney's dispute with the club in October was a more complex issue, but the fact all three decided to remain at Old Trafford is a reflection of the club's standing in the game and Ferguson's powers of persuasion when it comes to convincing players that the only direction after United is down.

Nani has won the European Cup, the Club World Club, two Premier League titles and two Carling Cups at United, and is someone Ferguson would desperately want to keep.

Even with Antonio Valencia returning from a broken leg, United are so short of options in wide positions that they are giving serious consideration to bidding for Aston Villa's Ashley Young in the summer. Ryan Giggs, at 37, has to be used sparingly while Gabriel Obertan and Bébé have struggled to impress and Park Ji-sung is not a natural winger.



Media bollocks or something we should be genuinely worried about?
 
Probably bollocks but to be brutally honest I wouldn't care too much either.

I'd love him to stay around for a long time, but I don't see it happening, and besides he's not irreplaceable like Ronaldo should he choose to leave some point in the near future.
 
Jesus Christ, I'll write tomorrow he wants to join Polish League as he's ready for new experience and polish vodka after four seasons in England.

No quotes, whatever. You've got to love journalism nowadays.

Even if he decided to leave... Serie A?! :wenger:
 
Park's not a natural winger.

Good lad, Dan. Keep making your folks proud.
 
Let me guess, United's signed Bale... and are flogging Park, Nani, Valencia and Berbatov to pay for him?

Oh wait no ... Ashley Young ... not Bale.
 
italy? like feck he's going there unless he's fallen in love with some milanese brass and she's having his baby.

he'll be in spain one day, but not yet. after the 2014 world cup IMO is when he'll go to spain.
 
With all those quotes we fans should be concerned.

Oh please. Come on. I have more respect for an article that doesn't fake quotes from a 'source' in order to make itself look important. That's so tabloidy, we should be thankful they at least haven't gone down that road.

But you know, foreign player desires to play elsewhere after a few years in Manchester - it's hardly an alternative theory to Darwin's evolutionary idea, is it?

I'm not saying I necessarily believe this but it's odd how people are acting as if this is so far fetched.
 
The Sun has a similar article and I think there might be some truth in it. If you read a United forum, everything is quashed as "rubbish" (just like the refs are always wrong and Fergie always right) but at the end of the day players are players and transfers happen from time to time.

Nani's management apparently wants to get a pay rise for him, which seems fair enough in my opinion. If you destroy the wage structure of the club by giving the likes of Rooney completely exaggerated contracts, that's the result. I don't blame him for wanting better wages, he deserves it.
 
In fairness we get this with every transfer story. it's all "bollocks" until it happens then its "to be fair, you could see it coming for a while"
 
The Sun has a similar article and I think there might be some truth in it. If you read a United forum, everything is quashed as "rubbish" (just like the refs are always wrong and Fergie always right) but at the end of the day players are players and transfers happen from time to time.

Nani's management apparently wants to get a pay rise for him, which seems fair enough in my opinion. If you destroy the wage structure of the club by giving the likes of Rooney completely exaggerated contracts, that's the result. I don't blame him for wanting better wages, he deserves it.

Lailani turns a thread about Nani into RooneyHate.

You have to admire her methodological tenacity.
 
What an utter load of shit. Seriously how do they get away printing this crap?
 
Oh please. Come on. I have more respect for an article that doesn't fake quotes from a 'source' in order to make itself look important. That's so tabloidy, we should be thankful they at least haven't gone down that road.

But you know, foreign player desires to play elsewhere after a few years in Manchester - it's hardly an alternative theory to Darwin's evolutionary idea, is it?

I'm not saying I necessarily believe this but it's odd how people are acting as if this is so far fetched.

Ummmm... no...
 
The Sun has a similar article and I think there might be some truth in it. If you read a United forum, everything is quashed as "rubbish" (just like the refs are always wrong and Fergie always right) but at the end of the day players are players and transfers happen from time to time.

Nani's management apparently wants to get a pay rise for him, which seems fair enough in my opinion. If you destroy the wage structure of the club by giving the likes of Rooney completely exaggerated contracts, that's the result. I don't blame him for wanting better wages, he deserves it.

It's all hypothetical, he can't produce one quote. I don't think anybody here is naive enough to think that it could never ever happen but if that's what he is bringing to the table in terms of evidence he deserves to be mocked.

He evens covers his arse at the end by putting the bit in about Madrid. Covering all his bases in a fictional and vague article to make himself look good in the future if anything ever did come to fruition.
 
It's all hypothetical, he can't produce one quote. I don't think anybody here is naive enough to think that it could never ever happen but if that's what he is bringing to the table in terms of evidence he deserves to be mocked.

He evens covers his arse at the end by putting the bit in about Madrid. Covering all his bases in a fictional and vague article to make himself look good in the future if anything ever did come to fruition.

What quote are are expecting?

A 'source says' quote? Jesus Christ, if that's your barometer of a credible story...

People are shitting on the article for no apparent reason other than "Its bollocks". As ever. As every story is. The big rush to be amongst the first to say "its bollocks" again.

Hold back the stampede.
 
The Sun has a similar article and I think there might be some truth in it. If you read a United forum, everything is quashed as "rubbish" (just like the refs are always wrong and Fergie always right) but at the end of the day players are players and transfers happen from time to time.

Nani's management apparently wants to get a pay rise for him, which seems fair enough in my opinion. If you destroy the wage structure of the club by giving the likes of Rooney completely exaggerated contracts, that's the result. I don't blame him for wanting better wages, he deserves it.

Isn't it a little strange that you should both believe there may be some truth in this and yet view Nani's position sympathetically here?

Don't you generally dismiss players of wavering loyalty as 'scum' or 'twats'?

I agree with you that it's perfectly possible for there to be some truth in this but how's it different from Van der Vaart wanting out of Hamburg or Rooney considering leaving United?
 
Stage 1:

"Its bollocks"

Stage 2:

"Read about this bollocks last week. It's bollocks:

Stage 3:

"This bollocks keeps going around. It's bollocks"

Stage 4:

"Won't happen. Utter bollocks"

Stage 5:

"Well, to be fair you could see it coming a mile off. No smoke without fire and all that"


...again NOT saying I think this story is solid but it's just irritating the blanket denial based on...what?

Why not have an "its bollocks" thread so everyone who wants to state, categorically without any reasoning that something "is bollocks" - can?
 
It's all hypothetical, he can't produce one quote. I don't think anybody here is naive enough to think that it could never ever happen but if that's what he is bringing to the table in terms of evidence he deserves to be mocked.

He evens covers his arse at the end by putting the bit in about Madrid. Covering all his bases in a fictional and vague article to make himself look good in the future if anything ever did come to fruition.

Fair enough but just because there are some details that are exaggerated doesn't mean there's no truth in it. The article from the Sun:
MANCHESTER UNITED are facing a battle to keep star winger Nani.

The Portuguese flier, surprisingly fit for tonight's Champions League clash with Marseille, wants to discuss a new contract and wage rise on the back of his sparkling season.

But that has already been rejected and Nani, 24, has already told close friends he is considering a new challenge.

He is just a year into a new four-year contract signed last March.

That raised his wages to around £65,000 at a time when he was nowhere near as influential as he is now.

The player's representatives now believe he should be among the top-paid players at the club.They would not expect him to get the £250,000 a week Wayne Rooney earns, but nearer the £100,000 the likes of Dimitar Berbatov pick up.

But the club have told Nani's people there is no way they will be renegotiating with three years left on his current deal.

Nani, who has quickly recovered from a badly gashed leg, has told friends he is interested in a move to Italy while Real Madrid have long admired him and would also be interested.

It really does seem to me that Gestifute have leaked a story to the press. Don't get me wrong, Nani is my favourite United player and I don't think he's moving anywhere right now.

What I can image though is his agent trying to get a better contract for him. It worked for others in the past.
 
I wonder what this thread would have read like last year at this time
 
What quote are are expecting?

A 'source says' quote? Jesus Christ, if that's your barometer of a credible story...

People are shitting on the article for no apparent reason other than "Its bollocks".

Whoa whoa, hold up. Nobody here except you has mentioned anything about 'source says'. We'd all be laughing at it even harder if he threw in one of them.

and no we aren't just shitting on the article for the sake of it. A certain Daniel Taylor always brings a chuckle out of me for being rather clueless and never in the know about anything. Is he still banned from Fergie's pressers? The media don't tend to forget too easy........
 
Whoa whoa, hold up. Nobody here except you has mentioned anything about 'source says'. We'd all be laughing at it even harder if he threw in one of them.

So what quote were you expecting? A Nani world exclusive interview? He goes to the Guardian the night before the game to demand a transfer?

What quote did you want?
 
Jorge Mendes isn't an idiot. Rooney made similar waves and it got him higher wages. I doubt this is anything different than an agent trying to get higher wages for his client
 
Daniel Taylor is generally an idiot so we shouldn't be surprised.

Why would Nani go to Italy though? The quality of the league is lower than in England and Inter/Milan wouldn't be a step up. They also don't play with wingers very often. He can't really go to Spain without the Ronaldo shadow hanging over him, but at United, he can win as a dominant player with United without the constant Ronaldo comparisons.

He most likely wants an improved contract and deserves it. United might be hesitant right now after giving new contracts to several players.
 
So what quote were you expecting? A Nani world exclusive interview? He goes to the Guardian the night before the game to demand a transfer?

What quote did you want?

Unless I start hearing soundbites from the club or the player (or known associates but I still would treat it rather dubiously) I call bollocks.

and might I ask what were you expecting reaction wise from the users of this forum?

A crap article from a crap journalist and we are all supposed to do what exactly?
 
The Sun has a similar article and I think there might be some truth in it. If you read a United forum, everything is quashed as "rubbish" ...

I think you'll find that the reason for this is because, on a daily basis, transfer rumours will be completely fabricated by the English tabloids. There might be more credible stories in Germany's sports papers but there's not here. And that's forgetting the various fabrications on twitter, caughtoffside, tribalfootball and the like now.

We've had it about hundreds of our players, just complete fabrications. We've just had a media storm about Vidic, and then the beginning of one with Evra...and they were seemingly based in very little. Is it any wonder people assume they're baseless when such a high proportion of them are?

The vast, vast, vast majority of transfer rumours are rubbish. There's ample evidence of that. Just because you don't agree in this case doesn't mean you have to be quite so rude when it's suggested it might in fact be bollocks. If it's wrong, does that make it ok to point that out to you (in a vaguely condescending manner)?
 
Also remember, this is the website that hyped up a story about Inter being interested in Bale to high heaven treating it as something majorly important.