Reformist movements have very often had popular figureheads leading them. Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Harvey Milk, Nelson Mandela, Emmeline Pankhurst, etc. It is nothing to do with "the younger generation".
Greta Thunberg
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Reformist movements have very often had popular figureheads leading them. Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Harvey Milk, Nelson Mandela, Emmeline Pankhurst, etc. It is nothing to do with "the younger generation".
She's doing politics (well, activism, but it's similar). Grown-ups do it all the time. Just look at those cringe endorsement statements from politicians.
Don't understand why someone who is only asking to make the world a better place gets so much hate
The world is full of selfish idiots sadly.
not all men, unlike what others with clearly fragile egos may think, don't worry.
I didn’t realise she meant men, it was a sincere question.
That is true, but its a different situation here. People were fundamentally against what people like King, Milk, Pankhurst etc stood for. The majority already care about climate change. They don't need their views changing.
I just don't see her ever reaching the right audience because of the hysterical nature of her delivery. She lacks persuasion.
Yep. She's too emotional. Her message would come across much better if it was being delivered by a man. A white one preferably. They're much more rational and logical.
Not crying and shouting mid way through would be a start.
Whether you like her or not, she has clearly been hugely influential in getting children and young adults interested and energised around the subject of climate change. This is the future generation of adults and they will be in charge at some point so if she makes any sort of lasting impression which translates to policy issues in the future then she has done her job.
It's just bizarre how many supposedly intelligent adults just don't get it and think she's not having any sort of impact because they personally don't like her message. She's like catnip for the kids and her message is resonating amongst them. A huge number of 8-18 year olds are now incredibly passionate about seeing real change and they're all going to be voting within the next decade. If the politicians want to have any chance of picking up a meaningful amount of these votes then climate change is going to have to be part of that discussion.
no one individual is going to persuade the 'right audience' to change their ways, Greta included. and she would be the first person to tell you that.
Do you have kids?
I'm going to assume no.
Edit: and I wonder if you'd have used the word 'hysterical' if Greta was a bloke.
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Whenever I don't care what a person says I make sure I spend time over multiple days arguing about them on the internet.
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Completely wrong. You seem to consider a very small minority as the majority. Very very few people genuinely give an actual shit about tackling climate change.
She's already reached tons of people. How influential she will be in raising awareness and action remains to be seen. But it's a good cause and every bit helps
Pretty sure that was sarcasm
Yeah, get a brain, moran!
Grown men still having problems with her I see.
"Big polluters, no doubt, but a tad dramatic with the wording" is a terrible name for a convention.
Although a subsequent tweet she sent about some of the actual biggest polluters looked very soft. Brazil, Argentina, France, Turkey and Germany were condemned, but China, USA, Saudi Arabia and Russia were excused. It was just slightly odd because she is hyped as a radical face of child activism on climate change and I expected her to give no quarter, but that one was a bit of an own goal.
I don't understand why people find the idea that a preachy private school kid might annoy some people so strange.
Given she shouldn't get the level of vitriol she seems to receive but that is partially just the way the internet works sadly.
In his defence, it's hard to discern satire when it is surrounded by serious posts of a similar vein.nah, this post is
Kevin?
It is one thing for the majority of people to care about climate change.
But I am afraid that caring is not going to combat climate change.
Only massive and pretty quick action will have any affect.
And as yet, nothing like enough is being done.
And that is her point.
And she is completely correct.
I wonder what people small talk to her about
You’d mention the weather and find yourself marching down the street with a sign within the hour
You’d mention the weather and find yourself marching down the street with a sign within the hour
if i had to guess, without a google, those countries probably haven't signed that convention on child rights.
Aside from the US, all of the aforementioned countries have signed the convention, just not the treaty that allows children to file complaints. Her tweet about that wasn't accurate. Again, though, the complaint itself is fine. Nations shouldn't be excused from their obligations to the planet.
It's just not a particularly useful message when other notoriously bad polluters are given leeway of any sort, so I'm actually sympathetic to the overall cause but somebody could have advised her a bit better on that one i.e. the awkward wording of the complaint and getting basic facts wrong.
Good girl.
9 days. I'd say that counts as 'a few'.
And good on her for turning her attention to what is thought to be the primary spreaders of the virus, the young.
Where have you read that and what do you consider the young? Usually viruses spread more easily because of the young (schools etc.) but this virus isn't necessarily following the same pattern.
Even more worrying, grown men being influenced by her
Italian health service keeps stressing it. They think the young are the main spreaders but dont get affected as much by it.
What does this mean exactly?
You know what it means... that he's just another tedious windbag upset at a teenage girl (probably).
“Probably”
Get a grip, dear.
I’m not the one stressing along with a little girl’s rantings. She makes some valid points but ffs... lets not get too emotional, matey. She really doesn’t have a lot on influence in my life. Can’t say the same about the usual media/trend victims on here who have too much time on their hands and little purpose. Keep sucking it all up.
“Probably”
Get a grip, dear.
I’m not the one stressing along with a little girl’s rantings. She makes some valid points but ffs... lets not get too emotional, matey. She really doesn’t have a lot on influence in my life. Can’t say the same about the usual media/trend victims on here who have too much time on their hands and little purpose. Keep sucking it all up.
You do seem fixated on her apparant influence though.