There is no argument that Djoker is a superior player to Sampras and Federer on clay and hard courts. Roughly similar on grass too.
Greatest mens tennis player of all time
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Lendl was by nearly every metric the greatest player of the 1980s. But it ain't just about metrics.
Well obviously Federer could have lived with him because Federer beat him. But that was older Sampras. Peak Sampras on 90s grass probably beats all of the big 3 more often than not, I reckon.
Along the big three - I think Federer
Greatest athlete of all time is a more serious debate.
Nadal and Federer are just there to make his case stronger.
Nadal and Federer are just there to make his case stronger.
Djokovic?
Yeah this thread may as well be closed. Barring some miraculous recovery and and an incredible 2024 and 2025 for Rafa, it's done.
In truth I think biases towards Nadal and Federer have made this debate last longer than it should, which is fair enough.
A bit probably and they were close for long period to be fair.
But him coming on top of it is just something to add to the legacy at this point in time. I love Nadal the most, but Nole is clearly ahead. Also, people npr liking him just worked in his favour as he feeded from it.
We should close this thread 
Biases aside, if we look purely on achievements on the courts, Djokovic is the greatest tennis player of all time. And to do it in an era where there was rafa and roger, I mean, come on.
Biases aside, if we look purely on achievements on the courts, Djokovic is the greatest tennis player of all time. And to do it in an era where there was rafa and roger, I mean, come on.
Thanks feck you didn't go deeper and saved me from rolling my eyes reading your take in every thread you've ever showed up.
Please, keep it this simple.
Make a ridiculous statement, you get an appropriate response.
Would Rafa or Roger get dominated like this by a 20 year old?
Depends on their age when they played him (21)
By Alcaraz? Yes, and I'm a Roger fan.
.... well, Nadal did turn 22 4 days prior to this. But it's the most dominant performance in Tennis history.
And Nadal - though Tsonga isn't 20, he was an absolutely no one at this point, even at, also 22.
Yes
Federer in Wimbledon? I don't think so (at least not pre 2020-Federer). Not young Rafa in Wimbledon either.
Everyone and their dog knows that it's Roger Federer. I don't even know any other tennis player and I know it.
Will Alcaraz end up surpassing them all?
Yes because he's just getting started.
Boris Becker....best teenage player ever?
Surely the debate has been settled once and for all?
That was the only thing missing for him. He's completed it
It was already settled but happy that he's got a gold medal to match an already wonderful career.
yup.
What a match. Unbelievable intensity. That was one of his finest victories despite being a best of three. GOAT
It's still Bjorn Borg. Anyone else is just longevity awards.
Olympics doesn't really mean all that in tennis IMO. Not even best of five in the finals.
It depends who you ask. For some this is right up there with a grand slam and for others the games don't mean all that much. I think you'll find Murray, Djokovic, Nadal and Federer will value their gold medals extremely highly.
He also made the best underwear out of all of them. Where is Novak's brand? Exactly.
Yes, the gold medal means a lot, for everyone. As far as ranking tennis greatness it doesn't really though.
One of the best male teenagers for sure.
Objectively it really doesn't compare, but it's also something that people can't hold against him anymore.
Of course. But the only people holding it against him were Nadal fans. Which is exactly because that was something he won and not Djokovic.
I don't think anyone has seriously held it against him. I'm a Nadal fan and while the Olympic gold was missing for Djokovic before today, I don't think it has any bearing on his GOAT status. Nadal fans using it against him are either on the windup are can't be taken all that seriously.
This was all about it clearly meaning a huge amount for Djokovic personally. He's openly said how much of a big aspiration this has been for him.
You get it. ND25 underwear is prepared and ready to go, dude just needs to win Slam already.
Putting aside the different era factor (a problem for all G.O.A.T debates), He is definitely The G.O.A.T, and I'm a Roger fan.
Denying this now is like still denying that Messi >>>>>>> CR7 :-)
Denying this now is like still denying that Messi >>>>>>> CR7 :-)
What a day...what a fecking day.
but really though, that jacket is collecting massive amounts of dust right now. Hope he still gets it at some point.