A release clause is a trade off against the wage. Clubs don’t want to pay top dollar AND have a clause that forces them to sell.I honestly think Kane and Grealish will have priced themselves out of moves by signing their contracts, unless they negotiated a release clause.
Think the transfer sagas will drag on and on all summer and amount to nothing. Obviously clubs would have them, but I don't think any club would be so desperate for them that they would fold at the last minute and pay whatever ridiculous sum is demanded.
Baffles me that players still don't realise they are in the position of power when negotiating contract extentions, and don't demand a release clause, giving them considerably more control and freedom to choose where they play.
A release clause is a trade off against the wage. Clubs don’t want to pay top dollar AND have a clause that forces them to sell.
Players don’t know what their future value will be, or even if they will be healthy. It’s not that baffling that they put wages as their priority.
Interesting assessment but you make it sound like all the players and agents have no brains at all.It is baffling. They commit themselves not only for money but in the fantasy that their club will push on to the next level. Kane isnt wanting to leave Spurs for money, it's because he realises he made a massive mistake believing Spurs would compete for the top honours. The vast majority of players would choose to earn less and win more.
Obviously there's an element of risk, financially, given form, demand and value can fluctuate or decline, but ultimately they would most likely earn more money anyway if they didn't tie themselves down to long contracts. As in almost certainly, barring extremely rare career threatening injuries (which are much rarer now than 20 years ago). These days 20 or 30 million transfer fee is considered a cheap punt for top clubs, that's the equivalent of 200k a week for 2-3 years. You could probably insure yourself against career ending injury if you're that risk averse, too.
I think it's only a matter of time until we see more top players negotiating short deals and moving clubs frequently. They will likely make more money that way anyway, as they can move out of contract/with a year left, so the player will negotiate a % of the money the buying club saves as wages/sign on fee. Kane himself said Spurs might want to sell him for "£100m". That's more money than Spurs have paid Kane himself throughout his career.
If I was a Kane level player I'd be signing one or two year deals in my 20s, spend a few years hopping around Spain, Italy, Germany, experience the different leagues, rack up numerous league titles, sample the culture and women of those nations, and keep moving to whichever club either had the best chance of winning the CL or would pay me the most, depending on my motivation at the time. I wouldn't sign a 5 year deal until I'm 30+.
The only reason players don't do it is because it's not the done thing. As soon as one or two players do it successfully, more will follow.
I don't know what world you live in where clubs will agree to that contract.It is baffling. They commit themselves not only for money but in the fantasy that their club will push on to the next level. Kane isnt wanting to leave Spurs for money, it's because he realises he made a massive mistake believing Spurs would compete for the top honours. The vast majority of players would choose to earn less and win more.
Obviously there's an element of risk, financially, given form, demand and value can fluctuate or decline, but ultimately they would most likely earn more money anyway if they didn't tie themselves down to long contracts. As in almost certainly, barring extremely rare career threatening injuries (which are much rarer now than 20 years ago). These days 20 or 30 million transfer fee is considered a cheap punt for top clubs, that's the equivalent of 200k a week for 2-3 years. You could probably insure yourself against career ending injury if you're that risk averse, too.
I think it's only a matter of time until we see more top players negotiating short deals and moving clubs frequently. They will likely make more money that way anyway, as they can move out of contract/with a year left, so the player will negotiate a % of the money the buying club saves as wages/sign on fee. Kane himself said Spurs might want to sell him for "£100m". That's more money than Spurs have paid Kane himself throughout his career.
If I was a Kane level player I'd be signing one or two year deals in my 20s, spend a few years hopping around Spain, Italy, Germany, experience the different leagues, rack up numerous league titles, sample the culture and women of those nations, and keep moving to whichever club either had the best chance of winning the CL or would pay me the most, depending on my motivation at the time. I wouldn't sign a 5 year deal until I'm 30+.
The only reason players don't do it is because it's not the done thing. As soon as one or two players do it successfully, more will follow.
I don't know what world you live in where clubs will agree to that contract.
How depressingKane to City
Grealish stays
Pogba to PSG
Martial to Shanghai Shenhua
Haaland stays
Ronaldo to ManUnited
Sancho to ManUnited
Let’s leave the money out of it for a bit because it should be achievable with the addition of £50 million
I can never get over that ludicrous agent fee. If I was in that field I'd expect to be paid well with all the money being involved, but still. It's like he's pushing it just for fun to see how far it can go.
I’d have Kane & Grealish at City
Sterling & Jesus out...
Problem is Grealish plays either as a LW or CAM, exactly where our two best performers play. I would love him here, but I dont see how we can squeeze him in the same XI with Rashford and Bruno.Grealish is better than Sancho. I hope, if it's one or the other, we go for Jack.
We already have Greenwood and Diallo on the right though. What I think is, Greenwood isn’t ready for no.9 role yet as he is far better cutting in from right side and shoot rather than holding up play as target man, whereas Diallo is just as talent as Sancho when he was 18, who needs more game time to develop. So if we have Sancho it will solve our RW problems immediately, but will also create long term problems with Greenwood and Diallo.This. We keep ignoring the RW every window and end up shifting players around to appease someone else on the LW.
We get a RW and we will see the end of McFred. Rashford will be played on the left so pushes Pogba back to MF for one of Fred or McTominay.
Grealish is better than Sancho. I hope, if it's one or the other, we go for Jack.
No he isn't. Not on the RW where both creativity and pace are needed. He is not better then Bruno for the 10 either and on the left we have Rashford and occasionally Pogba.Grealish is better than Sancho. I hope, if it's one or the other, we go for Jack.
I like Grealish and I think he’s had an immense season but where/how’d we fit him in? From what I’ve seen, Grealish is best used as a left sided attacker or a AM - that’s where Rashford and Bruno operate. Sure Grealish can play as an 8 or maybe even as a right sided attacker - but again, at the cost that it would require to push this deal through, we’d need to try and sign players and play them in the best position. Rashford is much less effective on the right, so switching him over also “weakens” us, IMO.
A bit like someone who wanted us to sign Son. Very good player, but we’re not short of left sided attackers and have about 3-4 other massive upgrades needed in the starting XI. Starting with RW. Kane would be more than welcome - though highly unlikely.
Pogba still hasn't signed this new deal and we still have so many clambering for him to stay. His heart hasn't been in this club for 2 years now.
Sell him and Martial (as well as a few others) and go get Jack and Jadon.
Grealish is just not needed. Don't get the constant media links.
Grealish is better than Sancho. I hope, if it's one or the other, we go for Jack.
I’m keen to learn the direction we think our squad and first 11 should take in terms of attackers. We haven’t brought any forwards in their prime since Ole started. I think Cavani highlights how valuable a proven forward with the right motivation can be.
So if we had the option of selling Pogba and Martial and replacing them with Grealish and Kane would you take it.
Let’s leave the money out of it for a bit because it should be achievable with the addition of £50 million
Possible main front four goes from this
Pogba, Martial, Greenwood, Rashford, Cavani, Bruno.
To this:
Kane, Grealish, Rashford, Cavani, Bruno, Greenwood
It is baffling. They commit themselves not only for money but in the fantasy that their club will push on to the next level. Kane isnt wanting to leave Spurs for money, it's because he realises he made a massive mistake believing Spurs would compete for the top honours. The vast majority of players would choose to earn less and win more.
Obviously there's an element of risk, financially, given form, demand and value can fluctuate or decline, but ultimately they would most likely earn more money anyway if they didn't tie themselves down to long contracts. As in almost certainly, barring extremely rare career threatening injuries (which are much rarer now than 20 years ago). These days 20 or 30 million transfer fee is considered a cheap punt for top clubs, that's the equivalent of 200k a week for 2-3 years. You could probably insure yourself against career ending injury if you're that risk averse, too.
I think it's only a matter of time until we see more top players negotiating short deals and moving clubs frequently. They will likely make more money that way anyway, as they can move out of contract/with a year left, so the player will negotiate a % of the money the buying club saves as wages/sign on fee. Kane himself said Spurs might want to sell him for "£100m". That's more money than Spurs have paid Kane himself throughout his career.
If I was a Kane level player I'd be signing one or two year deals in my 20s, spend a few years hopping around Spain, Italy, Germany, experience the different leagues, rack up numerous league titles, sample the culture and women of those nations, and keep moving to whichever club either had the best chance of winning the CL or would pay me the most, depending on my motivation at the time. I wouldn't sign a 5 year deal until I'm 30+.
The only reason players don't do it is because it's not the done thing. As soon as one or two players do it successfully, more will follow.
Grealish is twice the player Sancho will ever be
Bold statement. I really want Grealish myself, but Sancho is one hell of a player. I can see him becoming one of the best in the world. So damn young and doing so good at this stage.
If we move Pogba this year, Grealish is a no brainer.
I'd prefer Grealish to Sancho (or Pogba), not least because of his positional versatility, which we really need. Don't think he'll be feasible to get though.
I want us to sign him as well. No doubt about that. But I dont like the idea of having Pogba and Grealish. That does not make sense for me at least. If Pogba sign a new contract, then I guess Grealish is a no go. Will be a very interesting transfer window.
I'd love to know what the higherups have in mind with regards to Pogba. It's his last big contract so Raiola will be even thirstier than usual to cash in as much as possible. From our point of view, is offering him a fat new contract (£400k plus they'll want, I'd imagine?) the most sensible thing to do? He's 29 next season and we're still figuring out how best to fit him in alongside our most effective player in Bruno. At the same time we desperately need his creativity. Tough one.
I'd love to know what the higherups have in mind with regards to Pogba. It's his last big contract so Raiola will be even thirstier than usual to cash in as much as possible. From our point of view, is offering him a fat new contract (£400k plus they'll want, I'd imagine?) the most sensible thing to do? He's 29 next season and we're still figuring out how best to fit him in alongside our most effective player in Bruno. At the same time we desperately need his creativity. Tough one.
