Agree with you.
They should all be called out.
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They should all be called out.
fecking moron.
Maybe arsenal gets lucky and they have to quarantine him.
When they report back for preseason?
Takes five minutes per jab, literally.
I've had mine, I also didn't miss a day of work, managed to look after my two kids and go to football training three times in the week after having the jabs along with play a full 90 minutes.
It affects everyone differently, but surely the club would rather a potential few days of side effects than 10 days of isolation??
I think the one you can't argue against is the amount of down-time players during the season.
Players who refuse the vaccinate could start to become a real issue when European competition begins.
Especially Xhaka, he gets about three suspensions every season.
I'll be surprised if more than 1/3 of PL players are vaccinated.
I know it's America & the NBA but could they do that for the CL & EL if they wanted to ? They will probably not touch it and leave it to luck but there need to be a treshold.
You’d have thought so. Not something for Xhaka to worry about though.
Imagine if he was the DM instead of Fred or Mctominay. A player with no redeeming qualities. More likely to give away a goal playing deep than Pogba and Bruno combined. More likely to get a red than Fred and Fellaini combined.
Someone who Arteta loves and shipped out 3 other midfielders for.
Someone who Arteta loves and shipped out 3 other midfielders for.
I seriously dislike that any of our own players don't get vaccinated. I can't even reasonably excuse it because there just isn't a good reason not based in misinformation.
I got my 2nd dose of Moderna today, had Pfizer as no. 1. 7 hours in and I feel fine, just a tiny bit warm on the injection site. Kinda excited for a day off work tomorrow if the normal side effects present themselves
I got my 2nd dose of Moderna today, had Pfizer as no. 1. 7 hours in and I feel fine, just a tiny bit warm on the injection site. Kinda excited for a day off work tomorrow if the normal side effects present themselves
Ok seeing comments I sense that my post will be controversial, and I have to say as a caveat that i'm 100% pro-vax for normal people.
But regarding pro footballers, it isn't that obvious that vaccination is the right choice for them in terms of benefits Vs risks, if and it's a big if, they are very careful with people they interact with.
They are heavily controlled, so chances are high that they would be treated really early if they get COVID. Very few players have co-morbitity risks.
And on the other hand, if they get vaccinated, they could risk being down for a week or two after the vaccine. They don't have to be in bed, if they perform 20/30% less than usual, it has a huge impact at this stage of the season.
Both choices have their merit for pro-fooballers (getting a vaccine early to minimize slightly risks of infections and minimize a lot risks of symptomatic covid, or not getting a vaccine and risking getting a symptomatic covid) , and it's harsh to call a player dumb because of his choice.
With that being said, I can see Xhaka being just a dumb anti-vax.
But regarding pro footballers, it isn't that obvious that vaccination is the right choice for them in terms of benefits Vs risks, if and it's a big if, they are very careful with people they interact with.
They are heavily controlled, so chances are high that they would be treated really early if they get COVID. Very few players have co-morbitity risks.
And on the other hand, if they get vaccinated, they could risk being down for a week or two after the vaccine. They don't have to be in bed, if they perform 20/30% less than usual, it has a huge impact at this stage of the season.
Both choices have their merit for pro-fooballers (getting a vaccine early to minimize slightly risks of infections and minimize a lot risks of symptomatic covid, or not getting a vaccine and risking getting a symptomatic covid) , and it's harsh to call a player dumb because of his choice.
With that being said, I can see Xhaka being just a dumb anti-vax.
I'm pretty sure they have a higher risk of being down for a week or two if they catch the coronavirus.
Not to mention the very best ones are travelling across the planet every week. There's no excuse to not get fecking jabbed
A day or two seems to be the absolute maximum duration of vaccine side effects. With lots of people getting little or no adverse effects at all.
You don’t need me to tell you how long the effects of covid can last.
Sharing coaches and airplanes with the others antivax eejits in the squad. If one goes down, they’ll likely take the rest of them down too.
I think the NFL is getting it right and it’s ridiculous a sterner line isn’t being taken in the PL.
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They've all just had 2-3 months off, minimum one except for that freak Richarlison playing the Copa and Olympics.
Plenty of time that.
You are right, but side effect for normal people and side effects for pro athletes are 2 different things.
Then again, I'm not arguing for or against. Just saying that calling it a dumb choice for pro athletes isn't fair.
And I personally think it shouldn't be up to players, Leagues / UEFA should make a ruling.
They could have got vaccinated in the off season if they were worried about the incredibly unlikely possibility that vaccine side effects might last more than a day or two. I get your point but don’t think it’s a reasonable excuse.
Side effects of contracting it for pro athletes could easily remove their athlete status too.
Can't see leagues/UEFA make any rulings so long as getting vaccinated continues to involve signing away liability from Pharma companies. They won't get anywhere near taking it upon themseves as middlemen and can't coerce players into doing so as individuals.
I dont quite get that either. It's only Jehovah's Witnesses who are anti medicine isn't it?
I know the pope, Church of England and several leading Islamic groups in the UK have said people should get the jab.
this is amazing
Because Mbappé missed his penalty, and Switzerland advance to Euro 2020 quarter final, and before that Pogba lost the ball that caused the 3-3, and prolonged the game when there was 3 minutes left.
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Boggles my mind.
I can't take the vaccine because my interpretation of a 2k year old book says I shouldn't
what the actual feck?Because, unless I've missed it, we don't know the names of the others. If we did then they would be called out too.
What would happen if the FA/Premier League made vaccinations mandatory for all staff and players? Would there be a severe backlash? Im perplexed as to why something so essential from a public health perspective could be left to player choice
Fabien Delph?
Although it's a push to call him a footballer...
Is it also incorrect to presume that Dean Henderson has also not had the vaccine?
But judging by Bruce and Oles comments, the vast majority of their players have not had the vaccine yet.
No backlash whatsoever. The players would moan but comply in the end. If you hit their pockets, they will accept it eventually
I'm not sure that would be the case, unless many players have a restraint of trade agreement in their contracts then they probably won't be legally obligated to get the vaccine.
A lot of footballers are apparently not taking the vaccine due to religious reasons, which again brings up a whole new argument.
I don't know which religion says it's not allowed to take a vaccine (i know for sure there ain't no such thing in Islam).
Legal obligation won’t matter. The teams can just agree that players won’t be picked for matches if they’re not vaccinated (or have a valid medical reason why that’s not possible). Nobody is suggesting they have their contracts terminated.
Yeah, because that's likely to happen!!
United not picking Bruno, Cavani, etc because they haven't been vaccinated? Ain't gonna happen, hence the reason the club's haven't been the ones to say to get the jab.
It'll come under restraint of trade if the clubs don't pay the players or not allow them to play, unless they have a set medical clause in their contract.
There's many reports that highlights players not taking the vaccine due to religious beliefs,
Why that would be the case I have no idea, but it's been reported multiple times in several publications.
I’m not saying the clubs unilaterally decide. The Premier League should lead this. New rule for participation. Clubs may only put vaccinated players (or those who are ineligible for a vaccine) in their matchday squads.
At the very least they could do what the NFL are doing.
Pogba, Henderson etc. — just from the United squad got COVID and suffered medium-term consequences that significantly influenced their performances. Let alone that even mild symptoms after a vaccination is a rarety, let alone spending a week or two out due to them. Plus, they've all got a choice of doing one before the start of the season.
So no, it's not harsh at all.