Gaming Grand Theft Auto VI

matherto said:
Not at all. There are plenty of amazing games with incredible atmosphere.

I just don't like the current period we're living in and this is aping it.

Don't like Florida in the slightest. Miami is a shithole. Don't like the music that comes from there or the celebrity types that go there, don't aspire to be an influencer, fed up of rednecks after 8 years of American politics. It basically looks like Instagram 2023 for me.

Tired of GTA after V being redone over and over and milked until it's dead.

I'm sure it'll be well made and I'm sure there'll be more to it but I feel like loads in here have just gone 'OMG GTA <3' without really considering it. Think back to why Vice City was so special, it wasn't because of the actual city. If you remove what made Vice City so special, what are you left with?
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I'm looking at the trailer and seeing an amazing populated world with a ton of potential for interaction and parody. Rockstar is an excellent publisher that does satire better than pretty much any other in the games industry so I trust them that they'll do well. GTA V has been hashed to death but it doesn't take away from the fact that it was a stupendous game.

You just come across as incredibly dour. You don't like it, fine, but dull is a very weird adjective to describe Florida/Miami/this version of Vice City.
 
matherto said:
Not at all. There are plenty of amazing games with incredible atmosphere.

I just don't like the current period we're living in and this is aping it.

Don't like Florida in the slightest. Miami is a shithole. Don't like the music that comes from there or the celebrity types that go there, don't aspire to be an influencer, fed up of rednecks after 8 years of American politics. It basically looks like Instagram/Florida man meme 2023 for me.

Tired of GTA after V being redone over and over and milked until it's dead.

I'm sure it'll be well made and I'm sure there'll be more to it but I feel like loads in here have just gone 'OMG GTA <3' without really considering it. Think back to why Vice City was so special, it wasn't because of the actual city. If you remove what made Vice City so special, what are you left with?
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Yeah I don’t think this game is really for you.
Maybe they’ve enjoyed the previous games and are excited to see what R* can do with current gen consoles?

And some of the expansions for GTA Online have been fantastic - but then you don’t seem to enjoy these types of games anyway!
 
horsechoker said:
I don't know if remaking gta vice city is the optimal choice, in a way they've already perfected the 80s with 2 games.

They could have done London but I think GTA has become about parodying the American dream, could they even successfully pull of a parody of modern British society?

I think Rockstar's ethos is now GTA is for parodying modern society and their secondary titles such as Red Dead, La Noire etc will pay homage to other time periods.

In terms of periods covered in 3D there's

18th century - Red Dead Dead
Late 40s - LA Noire
80s - Vice City/VCS
Early 90s - San Andreas
Late 90s - LCS
Early 2000s - GTA 3
Late 2000s - GTA IV
2010s - GTA V
2020s - GTA VI

That just leaves the 50s, 60s and 70s not done in 3D, so maybe they'll release a non-gta game to cover one of these periods. Perhaps they could even do something set in or around the two worlds wars.
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We'll be getting our 1970s set game from Rockstar soon as well. Sure, there hasn't been any news in a while but it can't be much longer until Agent is released...
 
SilentWitness said:
I'm looking at the trailer and seeing an amazing populated world with a ton of potential for interaction and parody. Rockstar is an excellent publisher that does satire better than pretty much any other in the games industry so I trust them that they'll do well. GTA V has been hashed to death but it doesn't take away from the fact that it was a stupendous game.

You just come across as incredibly dour. You don't like it, fine, but dull is a very weird adjective to describe Florida/Miami/this version of Vice City.
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Oh don't get me wrong, they'll manage to pull off technical feats better than anyone else to populate a sandbox city and yeah I agree they do satire better than anyone else, I just think the past decade has proven satire is dead and I'm fed up of it. Modern life is dour - that's why Vice City hits so nicely still cause it was a throwback to all the films, shows and movies you've loved growing up about the 80's, same with San Andreas and the early 90's.

Between Trump, social media and 'murica in general - what is there left to satirise or make fun? Florida in 2023 is peak satire in itself, there's nowhere to go with it. They were always going to make a modern era game again but they should've picked another time and gone for that.

I'm sure I'll end up playing a lot of GTA online with mates but it'll be more for the social aspect of it and we're all extremely bored of V. I'll buy the game and I'll play it but I don't think it'll have lasting power and then you've got to deal with them introduce shit like Oppressors to ruin online and milking it for another decade and a bit.

Forgive me for not just being all starry eyed just because.
 
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matherto said:
Oh don't get me wrong, they'll manage to pull of technical feats better than anyone else to populate a sandbox city and yeah I agree they do satire better than anyone else, I just think the past decade has proven satire is dead and I'm fed up of it. Modern life is dour - that's why Vice City hit so nicely cause it was a throwback to all the films, shows and movies you've loved growing up about the 80's, same with San Andreas and the early 90's.

Between Trump, social media and 'murica in general - what is there left to satirise or make fun? They were always going to make a modern era game again but they should've picked another time and gone for that.
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No matter what R* does you won't be 13 again...
 
matherto said:
Oh don't get me wrong, they'll manage to pull off technical feats better than anyone else to populate a sandbox city and yeah I agree they do satire better than anyone else, I just think the past decade has proven satire is dead and I'm fed up of it. Modern life is dour - that's why Vice City hit so nicely cause it was a throwback to all the films, shows and movies you've loved growing up about the 80's, same with San Andreas and the early 90's.

Between Trump, social media and 'murica in general - what is there left to satirise or make fun? Florida in 2023 is peak satire in itself, there's nowhere to go with it. They were always going to make a modern era game again but they should've picked another time and gone for that.

I'm sure I'll end up playing a lot of GTA online with mates but it'll be more for the social aspect of it and we're all extremely bored of V. I'll buy the game and I'll play it but I don't think it'll have lasting power and then you've got to deal with them introduce shit like Oppressors to ruin online and milking it for another decade and a bit.

Forgive me for not just being all starry eyed just because.
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Not sure why you would even bother playing it, given what you've said!
 
swooshboy said:
Not sure why you would even bother playing it, given what you've said!
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I'd like to be proven wrong.

Abizzz said:
No matter what R* does you won't be 13 again...
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True but I still play the PS2 era games. Rose tinted glasses and all of course.

Rockstar has a lot of credit it needs to earn back after milking V for so long and then the Definitive Edition shitshows.

I'm finding the same with films and TV shows tbh. Imagine Stranger Things set in 2023, it would've been cancelled after the first season.
 
Some of the characters in that trailer look batshit crazy.

However if you compare them to some of the posters in this thread, they look completely normal.
 
matherto said:
Oh don't get me wrong, they'll manage to pull off technical feats better than anyone else to populate a sandbox city and yeah I agree they do satire better than anyone else, I just think the past decade has proven satire is dead and I'm fed up of it. Modern life is dour - that's why Vice City hit so nicely cause it was a throwback to all the films, shows and movies you've loved growing up about the 80's, same with San Andreas and the early 90's.

Between Trump, social media and 'murica in general - what is there left to satirise or make fun? Florida in 2023 is peak satire in itself, there's nowhere to go with it. They were always going to make a modern era game again but they should've picked another time and gone for that.

I'm sure I'll end up playing a lot of GTA online with mates but it'll be more for the social aspect of it and we're all extremely bored of V. I'll buy the game and I'll play it but I don't think it'll have lasting power and then you've got to deal with them introduce shit like Oppressors to ruin online and milking it for another decade and a bit.

Forgive me for not just being all starry eyed just because.
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GTA V has lasted 10 years. There is no doubt that a much bigger and better game will be able to last that too if they wanted to.

The world around us in the present day is dour, I can agree to that, but there are so many aspects of modern life that are absolutely not dour and given it's a game they can touch on all those aspects that are full of life and fun and play on it, which the trailer absolutely shows they are.

I mean, the bolded is just wrong given they are going with it and they've hit the nail on the head with it in the trailer for most people. There are only two or three in here who seem to be unhappy including yourself. There will be more things to satire in the next year or so before it's released. The world moves at an incredible pace now so there will be no shortage of things they can add to the game and I think we will see with this version that there is more content added to the single player mode aswell as the multiplayer.
 
Also sure they're playing on that social side of things but it's a bloody trailer as well. You'd be daft not expect completely different aspects of the game and focuses on different types of people in all the areas across the map.
 
One Night Only said:
Some of the characters in that trailer look batshit crazy.

However if you compare them to some of the posters in this thread, they look completely normal.
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:lol:

I can't remember if it was you, or one of the others on here, but I remember doing a mission with them, and we started it and both ran to my car. But before they got in, then stopped, ran down the street, punched an old woman to the ground, then ran back to my car, got in and didn't say a word!

Was one of the most violent things I have seen in GTA in it's own way!!
 
One Night Only said:
Some of the characters in that trailer look batshit crazy.

However if you compare them to some of the posters in this thread, they look completely normal.
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Are they any more crazy than the stuff we're exposed to coming from America in real life? That's one of the biggest issues. I don't need an attempt at making their ridiculousness even more so because it can barely move the needle.
 
Even if there is nothing left to satirise it can still be a fun game.

I don't need bleeding edge biting comedy in my games.
 
Herman Toothrot said:
Tears For Fears - Shout
Pattie La Belle - Stirr It Up
INEXS - Need you Tonight
Bananarama - Cruel Summer
The GoGos - This Town
Hughie Lewis and The News - Power of Love
Bronski Beat - Small Town Boy
Neneha Cherry - Buffalo Stance
CeCe Rogers. -Someday
Prefab Sprout - Cars and girls
Guns N' Roses - Paradise City
Tom Tom Club - Genius of Love
The Cure - Lullaby Club
Debbie Harry - Rush, Rush
Paul Engeman - Push It To the Limit
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Bonnie Tyler - Holding Out For a Hero
Duran Duran - Hungry Like The Wolf
Ultravox - Vienna
Tears for Fear - Everybody Wants to rule the World
Hot Streak - Body Work
Gloria Estafan - Dr Beat
Donna Summer - I Feel Love
Owen Paul - My Favourite Waste of Time
Paul Young - Love of the Common People
 
matherto said:
True but I still play the PS2 era games. Rose tinted glasses and all of course.

Rockstar has a lot of credit it needs to earn back after milking V for so long and then the Definitive Edition shitshows.

I'm finding the same with films and TV shows tbh. Imagine Stranger Things set in 2023, it would've been cancelled after the first season.
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I'm with you on a lot of that. The last time I watched a TV show at the time of airing (i.e same year) was when Charlie Sheen still did 2 1/2 men. I stopped going to the movies after being forced through one of the superhero movies ~10 years ago.


But GTA is different, I'll try Gta 10 even if 6 through 9 should suck (and if I get to be 120 years old).
 
Camilo said:
But the best thing about vice city was it being set in the 80s.. Now it's a retirement home.
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That Vice City.

I'm quite happy to reverse opinion on a game. For example I was super excited for Cyberpunk and it let me down massively on release because the intense and vibrant city we were promised was a lifeless mess...but then the new expansion has managed to capture what initial promises stated.

The early signs with this trailer are very promising. I find it bizarre that you and @matherto can look at the trailer and label it as dull or uninteresting as a location or game option.
 
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SilentWitness said:
GTA V has lasted 10 years. There is no doubt that a much bigger and better game will be able to last that too if they wanted to.

The world around us in the present day is dour, I can agree to that, but there are so many aspects of modern life that are absolutely not dour and given it's a game they can touch on all those aspects that are full of life and fun and play on it, which the trailer absolutely shows they are.

I mean, the bolded is just wrong given they are going with it and they've hit the nail on the head with it in the trailer for most people. There are only two or three in here who seem to be unhappy including yourself. There will be more things to satire in the next year or so before it's released. The world moves at an incredible pace now so there will be no shortage of things they can add to the game and I think we will see with this version that there is more content added to the single player mode aswell as the multiplayer.
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Tbf I think the only reason GTA V has gone on for 10+ years before they next release is if I’m not mistaken it’s like the best selling piece of media, not just video game, of all time? So I imagine Rockstar have deliberately milked it for as much as they can for as long as they can.
 
SilentWitness said:
I find it bizarre that you and @matherto can look at the trailer and label it as dull or uninteresting as a location or game option.
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Well if they manage to make it absolutely nothing like Florida in 2023 then you'd have a point but given they historically do make it like the era and location they want to then you know pretty much what you're getting don't you?

If you hate everything about Florida in 2023 then it's not gonna look great is it?
 
If juicy asses and alligators are boring then I don't want to know what excites you!
 
Plant0x84 said:
It’s entirely more cool and far more exciting than the latest fifa which is released every year and changes very little.
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True. My point to that poster was more so we can also say that about any video game that I imagine he would play
 
matherto said:
Well if they manage to make it absolutely nothing like Florida in 2023 then you'd have a point but given they historically do make it like the era and location they want to then you know pretty much what you're getting don't you?

If you hate everything about Florida in 2023 then it's not gonna look great is it?
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It’s just a game bro :lol: no one is expecting you to become an influencer or a Florida Man just off the back of it.
 
Sara125 said:
It’s just a game bro :lol: no one is expecting you to become an influencer or a Florida Man just off the back of it.
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I know but when the trailer is a minutes worth of exactly that then it doesn't scream 'this won't be that as a game' to me.

As said, I want to be proven wrong. I want to enjoy it. I want to appreciate the technical achievements that they'll undoubtedly do and I'll definitely play it and probably online a lot with friends but the setting isn't appealing.

People don't have to agree with it, it's just an opinion. But then that's what forums are for, expressing your opinion.
 
matherto said:
Well if they manage to make it absolutely nothing like Florida in 2023 then you'd have a point but given they historically do make it like the era and location they want to then you know pretty much what you're getting don't you?

If you hate everything about Florida in 2023 then it's not gonna look great is it?
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How much time have you spent in Florida, and specifically Miami?
 
matherto said:
Well if they manage to make it absolutely nothing like Florida in 2023 then you'd have a point but given they historically do make it like the era and location they want to then you know pretty much what you're getting don't you?

If you hate everything about Florida in 2023 then it's not gonna look great is it?
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I hate LA but loved Los Santos and GTA V because it's a video game and enhanced the good things and took the piss out of the shite things.
 
matherto said:
Enough. Wasn't for me.

I'd be saying the same if it was set in Las Venturas because I really wasn't enamoured with Las Vegas.
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Dull is not a word I’ve ever heard used to describe Miami, so the vagueness of your response makes me assume not much.

Same for Vegas really, I can fully appreciate some people not liking it but dull certainly wouldn’t be a reasonable word for it.
 
Rado_N said:
Dull is not a word I’ve ever heard used to describe Miami, so the vagueness of your response makes me assume not much.

Same for Vegas really, I can fully appreciate some people not liking it but dull certainly wouldn’t be a reasonable word for it.
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Once you see past the neons there's nothing to either place. Vapid, plastic and naff. Not often I go somewhere and think 'I wouldn't go back' but those two I definitely did.
 
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