Just realized that Potter is the 18th manager at Chelsea since january 1st 2000 (23 years)
Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job
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There's no long term if you lose the dressing room. Not sure if he's there yet, but they're starting to remind of United under Ole.
I rate Potter but this season really is becoming similar to Moyes' at United. Out of cups in January, looking bad in league and Champions League being so far only positive, though it was an easy group to deal with. Not looking good in games vs PL rivals is another similarity.
It’s the same thing for players too. The magnifying glass shines bright on you the higher up the table you go
Matter of time now
I think he made a HUGE mistake when he decided to go there in the middle of a season. As a manager you just don't do that. It makes your job far harder than it is needed to be. These players aren't his and are obviously not playing for him at all.
But, but, longterm, he brought staff, blahhhh... Moyes was meant to be longterm too ffs.
Potter doesn't have a champion mentality and mindset which is necessary when you're managing a big club and some egotistical players. It's his biggest problem atm, you can look at some of Chelsea player's body language.
Every time I watch Chelsea they look worse and worse. Even if everyone was fit who would score the goals?
Players look lost and disinterested. Spent a fortune on a lot of average players.
Long may it continue.
Players look lost and disinterested. Spent a fortune on a lot of average players.
Long may it continue.
Graham Potter and the Prisoner of xG
Agreed. He walked into a struggling side and hasn't yet been able to turn it around.
All the signings they've made but none of them have really improved things either.
It wasn't the middle, which made it even worse tbh. The timing couldn't haven't been any poorer, considering the transfer window had just closed and consisted of a combination of signings by the previously sacked manager and the new nutcase owner.
He really was set up to fail, considering he's a manager that is in no way proven at the top level and his reptutation comes from building teams over a longer period of time.
Both Brighton and Brentford are good cases of the club infrastructure being better than any manager they make look good.
Poch will be their new manager by the end of the campaign.
About 10 years ago, we fired all the United staff that were successful under Ferguson and hired Moyes, who brought all his staff from Everton. The staff that were still working there would refer to them as “here’s Everton…” when they showed up for training.
Moral of the story is, it’s fecking stupid.
Tuchel did the exact same thing and won the Champions League in fairness
, If I were a Chelsea fan, the question id ask is whether or not this season will be a write off. If so, it should be made clear to the manager so he's not shitting himself every week.
I rate him as a manager but agree with others going to Chelsea mid season was likely a big mistake. He is a system and process kind of manager and mid season there was always a chance this could happen and then the hysteria will finish him off. They look toothless upfront and Havertz is their main outlet for goals and has been fecking awful.
if they can keep their heads throughout this tricky period he might come out of it ok, needs to pick up some results against mid table teams in his next few games.
I think the worry would be that you just can’t see how they’re going to score many goals. Even in good times Brighton we’re often spectacularly toothless and would go on runs of drawing about 10 games in a row.
Will be interesting seeing how it unfolds.Probably is something to idea he is not kind of big personality enough for big club like Moyes, though that’s where comparisons end because Moyes is a bang average tactician who always got a complete schooling against any top coach. You can’t hang that on potter whose Brighton teams regularly outplayed elite opponents.
He looks like he’s got a few bad eggs in the dressing room there who he needs to ship out and replace asap. Havertz is all over the shop. Ziyech has some good qualities but is a nothing effort sort of player and coaster. Aubameyang seems to not really gel at any big club anymore etc. Also he’s been grade a fecked by injury.
if they can keep their heads throughout this tricky period he might come out of it ok, needs to pick up some results against mid table teams in his next few games.
I think the worry would be that you just can’t see how they’re going to score many goals. Even in good times Brighton we’re often spectacularly toothless and would go on runs of drawing about 10 games in a row.
Will be interesting seeing how it unfolds.Probably is something to idea he is not kind of big personality enough for big club like Moyes, though that’s where comparisons end because Moyes is a bang average tactician who always got a complete schooling against any top coach. You can’t hang that on potter whose Brighton teams regularly outplayed elite opponents.
He looks like he’s got a few bad eggs in the dressing room there who he needs to ship out and replace asap. Havertz is all over the shop. Ziyech has some good qualities but is a nothing effort sort of player and coaster. Aubameyang seems to not really gel at any big club anymore etc. Also he’s been grade a fecked by injury.
Yeah. Can't disagree with a word of that.
What's weird is that, every club in England has had our example (and Everton's) to learn from. Yet Boehly has gone and repeated exactly the same errors.
That being said we had the example of Liverpool in the 1990s and didn't learn. I guess there's always going to be a guy who's self-confident enough to think he can make the supermarket sweep approach work.
Yes, ridiculous as it isHe is paid that much ?
Yes, not a bad shout
United brought in all of Moyes Everton staff too. And had also planned to back him. Eventually they too couldn't take it.
No manager is ever completely safe. It's a result business at the end of the day.
I still rate him - he's done well everywhere he's been and his Brighton were very good. However, I think he'll need time and patience to make it work but I don't see him getting it.
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Guardiola has come out and told Chelsea not to sack him 
Embarrassing
Embarrassing
Telling you, the second the top 4 is no longer attainable he’ll be fired ala Moyes. Easier to to let go the ‘chosen one’ when you can say they were given time.
Soon to be sent to the Deathly Gallows (Pt. 2 after Tuchel)
Jesus, you’d hope they sack you now if you’re him.Guardiola has come out and told Chelsea not to sack him
Embarrassing
They should stick with him and see out their philosophy of appointing him. This is just Arteta growing pains and will take time and lots of money, he doesn't have a magic wand.
He’s been set up to fail though
I think you know the score when you sign up to manage Chelsea, especially parachuting in mid-season. He'd already built enough credit to be in line for a big job on his own terms, and any of the other big clubs in the country would have been a better fit for him when another job opened up.
If he does end up getting the sack there, I think he'll quite badly regret not waiting for better circumstances.
I sympathise with him though.
I said the whole thing was a bodge job but some of the Chelsea fans suggested it was all a big plan. Boehly has totally bungled this and Potter could end up being the fall guy which is sad as he’s a good coach.
I agree he shouldn't be sacked but arteta is not the wisest example as till now we don't for sure know if that would yield major trophies. Chelsea has always demanded top honors. Do you think they will be happy with a manager finishing 8th 8th and 5th and ultimately coming in top 4. No ambitious club sadly offers that much time.
We also should have given Moyes, LVG, Mourinho and Solskjaer more time. Would have worked out in the end
Potter is a good coach, but he's also very inexperienced at the top level, as in, he's never won anywhere or coached top top players prior to Chelsea....and it shows.
If there's no unified front between Potter, Boehly, and the recruitment team, then the manager position at Chelsea will continue to be a revolving door and they'll continue to spend and spend until they rebuild their core and its a good cup team.
Chelsea’s David Moyes moment
Neither of those managers had a full 3 years, so United gave them some time except Moyes. Moyes was totally inept even with an entire pre season and summer transfer window.
Ole inherited an underperformed team and went on a fantastic streak...he got a tune out of the team for another 1.5 years too. Potter is in a very bad moment, his first as Chelsea manager, which he may not see past.