Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job
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I'm going to go with the classic defense of "I didn't say that".
But I'm not shouting down different opinions there, which is my point.
First brlrlrlrlr of 2023. Feels good.
Well Fofana has been injured, KK/Auba/Zakaria are hardly set the world on fire signings, not to mention they have lost James for a significant time.
Like I said, long may their problems continue, but seems odd to want him sacked so soon.
Will finish 8th and win the Champions League.
Luckily with the new format we should get back in the year after next on ranking alone (if we fail top 4 two years in a row), unless something crazy like City and Real both missing out happens aswell.
Chelsea will barely make 50 points at this rate.
Just had a look at their fixture list and still got aways to Arsenal, both Manchester clubs, Liverpool, Spurs and then tricky matches at likes of West Ham and Fulham.
I think we've got a decent chance of finishing above them and Brighton should fancy their chances aswell.
No idea what that means for Potter as you still think of Chelsea managerial decisions with Abramovich running the show.
Just had a look at their fixture list and still got aways to Arsenal, both Manchester clubs, Liverpool, Spurs and then tricky matches at likes of West Ham and Fulham.
I think we've got a decent chance of finishing above them and Brighton should fancy their chances aswell.
No idea what that means for Potter as you still think of Chelsea managerial decisions with Abramovich running the show.
Sacking Tuchel for this guy was crazy.
Oh, I'm not advocating for sacking him. It's just that this narrative around a stale squad is a bit of an easy excuse, when before the season many were saying they had a great transfer window. The narratives around these signings could be very different if the team played well, and the manager has some responsibility for that.
They can’t complain about the squad
Spent an absolute fortune
Spent an absolute fortune
I'll still give him time before writing him off.
Same old problem that they had with Conte. They simply don't generate enough chances.
Spending a fortune and having a good squad don't necessarily go hand in hand as any Manchester United fan can vouch for.
Top managers want their style of player who can execute their plan.
Way to early to give up on Potter.
They just had their first window under new ownership and were highest spenders
Piss poor planning and execution
And yet we constantly complain about our squad
Nkunku is far from a cert, though. He’s yet another very talented but positionally ambiguous attacker who joins an attack that already has about 2 or 3 other players just like him.
Absolutely but done before Potter was in place
TBF to Potter he did what he had to do to earn a big job, but only few can hack it at the top.
The inevitable slip back into obscurity is well under way.
It should be a reminder to City fans that when the sugar daddy gets bored...
It should be a reminder to City fans that when the sugar daddy gets bored...
Which in itself was another farce really
Hollow, hollow, hollow,
Chelsea's success is f*cking hollow,
All that money he took,
From that big russian crook,
And you'll never win three in a row
Switch a few words and it applies to City pretty well.
It was a good window for what Tuchel wanted to do. Aubameyang however is about as far away from a Potter forward as you can get so that's a big issue for them.
Actually thought they might have pushed to bring forward Nkunku signing but will have to wait until the summer so he should be much more to Potter's liking. If he's still in charge of course.
The difference is we had absolutely no balance in our teamAnd yet we constantly complain about our squad
I think chelsea have a lot of balance, maybe not a world class cf but neither do arsenal and they’re doing bits
We spent fortunes but on dross, potter has a good team and he’s losing it
also, big money / player signing sterling
Is it just me or did he not seem to give to many fecks about opening the scoring
we score and the team celebrates, properly celebrates
Sterling scored and reacted like it was the 6th goal of a already concluded game
Is it just me or did he not seem to give to many fecks about opening the scoring
we score and the team celebrates, properly celebrates
Sterling scored and reacted like it was the 6th goal of a already concluded game
This has always been the problem with having an incompetent coach. Now it looks like the entire squad needs an overhaul. Shaw looks more competent at CB than Koulibaly.
That’s not the case for the Dodgers. The coach was successful right from the get go (was manager of the year in 2016). He’s won the NL West every season except for 2021. MLB managers are definitely given way more leeway then EPL managers especially ones at top clubs. Potter will have to get results or else he’ll be on the move.
Remember when souness, Keane and whoever else said potter was a better manager than ETH and we should have gone for him . That aged well…
. That aged well…If Abramovich was still there, I think Potter would already be sacked.
That's definitely true, mind you, FSG did fire John Farrell of the Red Sox despite him winning the AL East, they failed to win the World Series and that was enough to get the boot
In principle yes, but there's a limit to how long you can go on losing games and not looking good even when you don't, if you're managing a club like Chelsea. And it's not a very big number that takes you to that limit. After all, we're not talking about disappointingly hovering around the top 4 mark here, we're talking one win in his last eight. That's not the sort of thing that can continue, even if it was a club with far lower ambitions than Chelsea.
I was really keen to see what Potter could do with a big club, but the answer so far seems to be "not very much". Even when they were still winning games, they looked mostly poor to me whenever I watched them.
Might not be an ideal situation for Potter, but it's his job as manager to work with what he has and then mold the squad to what he prefers over the next 3-4 windows. Not a fully analogous situation, of course, but Erik ten Hag also realized early on that his squad was not able to do exactly what he wanted, so he adjusted.
No matter how you look at it, this squad is not worthy of 8th, and he wasn't in that big of a whole when he took over.
Remember when souness, Keane and whoever else said potter was a better manager than ETH and we should have gone for him
It's way too early to be judging either.
I don't really see Potter as any worse than Tuchel as Chelsea looked shit without Reece James and Kante last season as well.
Your business from the summer is hardly great. Koulibaly and Aubameyang are both duds, Sterling's had a slow start and Cucurella hasn't made any kind of material difference. None of that is Potter's fault per se, but Chelsea are pissing loads of money up the wall.
Even now when the attack continues to fail, the signing you've made for January is yet another defender. If you continue to spend recklessly and don't get top 4 this season, I can't see that's going to put you in a great position with FFP.
Problem is not Potter. We know that he is not a bad manager but it takes something special to lead bigger teams. Wrong appointment from start because he is not there yet.
However, when you appoint a manager like him, you got to back him up and give him time. Time to change players, time to change system. And problem here is time. That is not something Chelsea gives managers.
However, when you appoint a manager like him, you got to back him up and give him time. Time to change players, time to change system. And problem here is time. That is not something Chelsea gives managers.
It remains beyond idiotic that Chelsea sacked Thomas fecking Tuchel for Potter because Tuchel wasn't a good enough emergency Director of Football.
Nothing approaches allowing Mourinho to bin KdB and then lie about why he did so but this is probably the second stupidest thing Chelsea have done in the last 25 years.
Nothing approaches allowing Mourinho to bin KdB and then lie about why he did so but this is probably the second stupidest thing Chelsea have done in the last 25 years.
It’ll always be a mystery to me how Chelsea can ebb and flow like they do. They can be totally average one year, then just go and win the champions league like it’s nothing. Then go back to being shit, then decide to turn it on and walk the league. Then be shit again. It’s so weird.
I don't know, they've been consistently average in the league since Conte's first season. The CL win was deserved but also a bit of a fluke in a weak year for most top European sides.
This is what I mean, they walked the league with 93 points in conte’s first year after finishing 10th the year before. Then they’ve been shit ever since, stopping occasionally to pick up the champions league and the odd FA cup