Good Available Wingers

Castia said:
We already have enough 'average' wingers with the likes of Young and to some extent Valencia. We was headed in the right direction last year bidding for Hazard and Lucas, if we were to sign a winger now id want us to buy somebody with world class potential. We have a big squad it's about time we bought some real class to add to the first 11 (in midfield and wing areas)
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Fully agree with this and I think Fergie's recent comments suggest he does too.

We have a great squad, the depth is there and the potential is there in buckets with half the squad under 25. If we are going to add to it, it's not squad players we should be looking at but upgrades and the likes of Young and Valencia taking
a step back and accepting a role on the bench or working their arses off to earn their spots back.
 
AldoRaine18 said:
The classic winger is dead in modern day football, with the 4-3-3 and the likes becoming common, things like inverted wingers or wing forwards are more in practice these days.
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Bayern and United haven't done badly in their respective leagues and Europe with two traditional wingers.
 
Sultan said:
Bayern and United haven't done badly in their respective leagues and Europe with two traditional wingers.
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Probably the only two top teams that play with traditional wingers, you could argue Madrid too if you count Ronaldo as a winger rather than a forward.
 
Sultan said:
Bayern and United haven't done badly in their respective leagues and Europe with two traditional wingers.
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United is the one of course, but Bayern has also changed it towards a narrower style. Robben as we all know is a proper wing forward who usually cuts in while Muller also comes in centrally a lot while on the right. Franck while he hugs the touch a fair amount of times still isn't too traditional to me given his game these days revolves a lot more around playing through ball or combining with the striker or AM and trying to pass it past the defense.
 
Sultan said:
Bayern and United haven't done badly in their respective leagues and Europe with two traditional wingers.
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The problem is that now only a few teams use classic wingers. If you see the top wingers in modern football in last three seasons you are limited only to Nani, Bale, Valencia (if you somehow can vanish this years memory), Ribery, Di Maria and Robben. I am struggling to find anyone else.

Though like everything in football that goes in cycles, I'll bet than in a few years there will be more.
 
I'd like us to get some technically gifted ones. We have one but he seems to be off track possibly on his way out too.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I'd like us to get some technically gifted ones. We have one but he seems to be off track possibly on his way out too.
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Zaha is quite talented and technically gifted.

Add one more in the summer, which propably will happen and we're back in business.
 
I wouldn't be opposed to taking a punt on Muniain.

He hasn't been good this season and with the love affair with Bilbao gone, we could probably get him for under 15 million, which is a bargain for young players with potential these days.
 
Most teams use wingers who are as adept at cutting in and linking as they are at crossing, even Bayern's pair are far more than just oldschool wingers, and Bale has been mentioned quite a bit but his best form has come from either the right where he can cut in and shoot with his left, or drifting in field from the left to make diagonal runs for a through ball.

Our attempts for Hazard and Lucas suggest Fergie has seen this change in the game and Kagawa will play as a false winger on the left IMO, and he'll look out this summer for one that can do a similar job from the right.

Bale and Ronaldo would be nice but unlikely, Sanchez and Di Maria could be possibilities, Reus would be awesome but unbuyable, there is maybe a question over Rodriguez pace and Isco seems to play central or from the left......So Callum McManaman it is!

Cevno said:
Johnson has been completely woeful this season. When has he hit even ? Had like 2/3 good games.
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I'd say he's arguably been the worst buy of the season.
 
I'd be happy enough with just keeping Nani and not giving Valencia a game on the right wing all season.
 
Sultan said:
Bayern and United haven't done badly in their respective leagues and Europe with two traditional wingers.
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Bayern just happen to have the world's best traditional winger who's been stupidly consistent since landing in Germany.
 
Kid Cunto said:
Probably the only two top teams that play with traditional wingers, you could argue Madrid too if you count Ronaldo as a winger rather than a forward.
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Bayern Munich has pretty much one classic winger: Arjen Robben.

Müller is more of an offensive midfielder in terms of sytle and Ribery is a creative play maker. Playing on the flanks does not make you automatically a winger. The closest they have to winger are actually their full backs Alaba and Lahm.
 
We could afford Bale, but that'd be our entire summer budget splurged on one player. Who isn't a midfielder.
 
It's nice to get an inside track on our finances.
 
bigredmachine said:
Di Maria is fantastic, why would Real want to get rid of him?
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Because it's Real and it's a bit like a circus over there.

Like many, I do feel that Nani is off this summer and with Valencia having a dreadful season, we must be in the market for another winger.

Di Maria would be a great addition if he's interested in coming here. Obviously Bale would be a quality addition, but I fear we have missed the boat on that one.
 
Kid Cunto said:
An educated guess based on previous seasons. I see no reason why we wouldn't have a similar budget to the previous few seasons.
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Smaller debt, higher income from sponsors, new TV deal, previous years having a reserved budget. Could be anything.

If we bought Bale for £50m, I wouldn't put it past us signing a couple more £15m-£20m players as well as some younger players.
 
Pexbo said:
Smaller debt, higher income from sponsors, new TV deal, previous years having a reserved budget. Could be anything.

If we bought Bale for £50m, I wouldn't put it past us signing a couple more £15m-£20m players as well as some younger players.
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That second paragraph gave me an erection.
 
I don't even think we have a budget per se. SAF, Gill and now Woodward have all said that if they identify the right player then the Glazers have no problems sanctioning the deal. If Fergie wanted to spend upwards of £100m this summer I don't think it would be a problem. As Pexbo said we've got less debt, higher income and big sponsorship and TV deals coming in.
 
But I do think if a particular player becomes available then they can be signed outside of a budget, like van Persie.
 
Di Maria loves a tumble and can come across as a bit of a knob but he's a superb player, one of the best wingers in world football.
 
A guy called Nani is meant to be alright.

Can take people on and beat them, will score a few belters in a season, two footed, can play left or right wing, good link up play, can produce something out of nothing.
 
I think a lot of people would be surprised at how much balance a dedicated ball winner in midfield would bring to the wings and the advanced midfielder pulling the strings.
 
RDCR07 said:
El Shaarawy from Milan seems to be a good talent.
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He said recently that he wants to spend rest of his career at Milan. Won't be moving in the near future atleast. Would love him here if we had any chance though.
 
Sphaero said:
Bayern Munich has pretty much one classic winger: Arjen Robben.

Müller is more of an offensive midfielder in terms of sytle and Ribery is a creative play maker. Playing on the flanks does not make you automatically a winger. The closest they have to winger are actually their full backs Alaba and Lahm.
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What do you mean by this? In some ways I can see it, and others I cannot.
 
It would be odd to stick to this style of football and let Nani go. Robben, Ribery, Di Maria. Those are excellent wingers. So is Nani. If he goes then he won't be replace by a better one.

Jefferson Farfan is a player I rate more than Valencia. On the left there's Antoine Griezmann. He's been steadily improving in these three years that I've seen him play.
 
Isco. Plays like David Silva i.e. intelligent, technical and has that x factor. Would be an ideal signing IMO.
 
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