Superb in the air, and a very good organiser, traits we're sorely lacking at the back. Will never happen though.
Godin
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One of the best in the world but I can't see a reason for him to leave Atletico to be honest. Plus, I still secretly hope that Jones and Smalling will someday stop breaking themselves and live up to their potential as a CB pair.
Replying to your post, Atletico have got the better of the other big teams in La Liga in recent years.
Jaysus, that 10 year streak of no wins against Real seems decades ago.
If we somehow managed to sign him and hummels. 
I actully have full confidence in Woodward to pull something like this off after the heroics he showed in the summer.
Maybe not in January though I can't see us making any major signings in January window.
I actully have full confidence in Woodward to pull something like this off after the heroics he showed in the summer.
Maybe not in January though I can't see us making any major signings in January window.
I don't think he's a world class defender and would much rather we got Laporte myself. Godin would definitely improve us but £28m is still a considerable amount of money for someone who would be doing well to give us 5 good years at the top. Filipe Luis was even better for Atlético and he's looking like he may take a full season to acclimatise.
Can't see this happening in January.
Do you think he is overrated or you don't rate aspects of his game? Can't really think of too many better and vuayble centre backs than him imo and 28m would be a decent price. Overpriced for a cb but when you see the lack of quality and viable defenders around it's fairly justified esp when you see the prices David Luiz and Mangala are commanding.
They are extreme examples but there is no doubting how inflated the market generally is right now.
I thought that was Hummels ha. This whole best in the world thing just doesn't do anything for me.
The Mangala and David Luiz fees mean we could pay £40m for the likes of Hummels or Godin and still look savvy.
This. At some point, we won't have a choice but to overpay one or two defenders. People talk about Smalling and Jones, but both are considered longshots (especially Jones) until further notice and rightfully so. We are in need of someone with natural leadership qualities, something that goes beyond a player's skills.
could not think of many top defenders these days.
and we need one of we are going to compete for the title sooner.
and we need one of we are going to compete for the title sooner.
For us to sign him, we need to sell a couple of defenders first. No way are we going to keep a group of Evans, Jones, Smalling, Rojo (and Godin) alongwith McNair, Blackett and/or Thorpe competing for 2 positions happy.
I honestly hadn't even heard of this guy until maybe the last few weeks of the last season.
Top class defenders are in serious shortage these days and most of the ones out there are already at clubs who won't sell them. Godin would be a great purchase, regardless of age and price. He is immense.
Difficult to say if he’s the type of defender we need. Do we need a technical leader, like Mats Hummels could be (if he’s back on form), do we need a warrior (like Vidic and then Godin is), or maybe do we need somebody with experience surrounding the young ones, like Fergie did with Laurent Blanc.
I mean, buying a defender is good, but who will partner him? LVG loves playing a right and left footer there, so if Godin comes, will Rojo be his partner? I don’t like this Philosophy of playing a right and left footer. Vida and Rio were probably the best partnership since Maldini Nesta, and they were both right footer, so it raises questions.
Anyway, we’ll never get him because he can fight for the Liga, still going for a glorious spot in Champions League, why the hell would he leave his team ?
I mean, buying a defender is good, but who will partner him? LVG loves playing a right and left footer there, so if Godin comes, will Rojo be his partner? I don’t like this Philosophy of playing a right and left footer. Vida and Rio were probably the best partnership since Maldini Nesta, and they were both right footer, so it raises questions.
Anyway, we’ll never get him because he can fight for the Liga, still going for a glorious spot in Champions League, why the hell would he leave his team ?
We shouldn't spend ridiculous amounts of money on 29 year olds.
I'd be quite happy to see Evans and Jones sold myself. Injury prone and inconsistent but both would still go for a decent fee and we could recoup most of any Godin outlay.
Smalling is threatening to be more than average, Rojo is still settling in, McNair and Blackett full of potential so they imo should stay for now.
I think only one of Jones or Evans will make it here beyond this season. Blackett and McNair are still young and growing. Smalling, Rojo and Godin competing alongside either Jones or Evans for CB positions makes sense for a top-flight club.
Even if both Jones and Evans are still here next seasons they are bound to be crippled for half of it anyway.
He's a defender, even at 29 he should still have 3-4 years left. €30m spent on him or Miranda would be a good move. The only doubt I have is how either of them would perform in a team that doesn't set itself up defensively with all players working very hard across the pitch like Simeone's Atletico.
He will be playing in a league which is completely different from to what he's playing now and he's expected to quickly fix the defense. I am not comfortable of having players at the wrong end of their career moving from one league to another. Vidic, Shevcenko, Evra, the list of players who failed to make an impact seem endless.
I must concede that while I know he is quite good, I hadn't paid as much attention to him as an individual to have an opinion on just how good. Atleti and Uruguay are both very organised units and their individuals don't always stand out as much as with other teams in their success.
I'm still in the Laporte camp though.
I'm still in the Laporte camp though.
Would be an excellent signing, can't think of many centre backs that suit English football better.
He'd be the brave, dominant in the air, leader that we've missed since Vida left. I don't mind that he's a bit of a thug, we looked far too easy to play against at times last season, at least having people like Godin and Fellaini in the team means that our opponents know what they're in for when they play us.
£28m for a soon to be 29 year old is a lot of money but he could do the job until he's 33 or 34 in the right system, look at Terry for example.
I still think we'll go with Vlaar in January to help our push for the top 4.
He'd be the brave, dominant in the air, leader that we've missed since Vida left. I don't mind that he's a bit of a thug, we looked far too easy to play against at times last season, at least having people like Godin and Fellaini in the team means that our opponents know what they're in for when they play us.
£28m for a soon to be 29 year old is a lot of money but he could do the job until he's 33 or 34 in the right system, look at Terry for example.
I still think we'll go with Vlaar in January to help our push for the top 4.
If Woodward and Van gaal are true to their words, we won't, he would be a stop gap and in form he is not better than our current players.
When Godin is far superior.
Just out of curiosity, to all the people saying they'd rather Laporte than Godin, how much of Laporte have you actually watched? Because I watched a fair bit of Atletico last season and Godin almost always impressed me. Laporte just seems a tad overrated to me; he's not on Godin's level.
Godin certainly stands out tbh
Agreed.
I suppose he does when he;s scoring from corners, which he does often enough. But his defensive game isn't something I've paid that much close attention too. I mean, I know he's very good, but naturally, once a player becomes a United target, it's a whole new level of dossier that is required for us muppets!
Who cares if he's 29? We missed a trick not signing Garay IMO and there aren't many CB's out there. Pay the money for Godin.
I haven't seen him play. Does anyone know if he has pace? Lack of pace is the one thing that we should be craving above all in central defence. Haven't had it properly since Rio got old.
What's Des Walker doing these days?
What's Des Walker doing these days?
No, no pace but is smart enough not to get caught out by that. Prob compare him to Carvalho out of defenders that I've seen in the Prem over the last 10 years.
Shame. Quick AND technique seems to be hard to find these days. You'd think with the entire world to chose from, there's be more central defenders with this basic combination.
Well the player has to want to leave at that moment also.
Yeah I pointed that out afterwards, I was only talking about Atletico there though.
Smalling has pace in abundance. Jones is quick as well.
Yep, both as fast as Rio ever was.
£28m or so for a top class central defender is cheap in today's climate. get 4 seasons of quality out of him, £7m a season. sorted.
Somehow never feels that way. I remember Rio would be a yard behind going into the box then suddenly he'd have motored in and nicked the ball off your foot. Jones would have clattered into your legs trying to catch up.
Can anyone tell me what kind of defender he is, as I haven't really watched him much? Is he a ball playing defending or like a no nonsense type. According to Glen Hoddle, he's more of a no nonsense, leader type defender, and if that's the case, as Hoddle mentioned in this article, I personally feel that he's the type of defender that will suit us more, as we lack a leader to organise our back four and help out our young centre backs.
Also, despite being right footed, I found out that he plays at left centre back (LCB) for both, club and country - similar to John Terry, which would suit us more, in my opinion, as I think with Smalling, Jones and McNair as back up, we've got enough right centre backs.
If we were to get Godin, I think Evans could possibly be out the door, leaving us with:
Right Centre Backs
Smalling
Jones
McNair
Left Centre Backs
Godin
Rojo
Blackett
Also, despite being right footed, I found out that he plays at left centre back (LCB) for both, club and country - similar to John Terry, which would suit us more, in my opinion, as I think with Smalling, Jones and McNair as back up, we've got enough right centre backs.
If we were to get Godin, I think Evans could possibly be out the door, leaving us with:
Right Centre Backs
Smalling
Jones
McNair
Left Centre Backs
Godin
Rojo
Blackett
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