They know most fans want to remain a respected club rather than hoping we are owned by the most disgusting people on earth.
Glazers / Woodward out! (One down)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
They know most fans want to remain a respected club rather than hoping we are owned by the most disgusting people on earth.
False.
Most people are anti-Trump
Most people are anti-Brexit
As in, you talk to people in public and that's the general consensus you'll most likely gather, definitely in my experience. Which to me illustrates one thing, people are not honest.
Most fans would probably say they are anti-Saudi ownership too, and all this, "rather be relegated"/"done with the club if it happens" talk is all well and good. But I don't believe most fans would be against it. I'm definitely not.
My thoughts as well. The desire to get Man United back to it's rightful position overwhelms my resistance against the Saudi takeover.
Begrudgingly I've started watch that City programme on Amazon. Scary how far behind we have fallen. We just need some real footballing guys back in and make us successful. Even if it was under the Glazer's, so be it. But it doesn't look like that will happen.
Sadly many don't though. They just want to win at all costs. They want a team full of galacticos purchased rather than built. It's all about the glory and prestige and wanting it now, despite the fact United was built by workers and our greatest teams were built by hard working managers (Busby and Ferguson) with teams crafted from local talent and pure determination and hard work.
Manchester United do not have a god given right to be top. What rightful position? United have always been a team that challenged. It had periods of dominance the same as Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Villa, Leeds, Nottingham Forrest.... Yes United have won more but things need to be put in to perspective here. The league has been around for over 130 years and United have won it 20 times. They have won the Champions league 3 times and the F.A Cup 12 times in a competition that has been around over 140 years. United challenge! They compete, and at times dominate but those times need to be appreciated not taken for granted.
I love United because it's part of me, win, lose whatever. However I need to be proud of my club and even though i dislike the current owners and hate how poorly we are performing, I'm proud that our current manager loves our club as much as I do. He's trying to build a team in a similar way to the ones he played in and I support him fully. It's all part of football. What fecks me off more is how well Liverpool are doing and how well they are playing. United could be in the conference as long as the Scousers were below us that would be fine. BUT! That pride in my club comes from history. History that was earned through hard work and principles and those principles are the ones that stop at the win at all costs mentality. Winning isn't everything and when the price of winning is being owned by someone who tortures and murders people for fun and who presides over one of the most oppressive regimes on Earth, that's when I draw the line.
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Beautifully put.
I love United but I'm not blinded by the fact I could help coach them to play better. Ole is in the same position.
I'm not too sure how many fans want galactico's at the club? It has never worked at this club
I'm not too sure how many fans want galactico's at the club? It has never worked at this club
People thinking that the Saudis are the same as Qatar or UAE should reevaluate their opinion. I'm not saying that UAE or Qatar have western values or their ownership is anything other than sportswashing, but compared to the Saudis they are like libertarian free states.
https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2019/saudi-arabia
And the influence of their theological leaders is one of the main reasons as for why they are what they are. They give legitimacy to the ruler of the kingdom in return for power and influence over the people.
https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2019/saudi-arabia
And the influence of their theological leaders is one of the main reasons as for why they are what they are. They give legitimacy to the ruler of the kingdom in return for power and influence over the people.
We have hardly bought any galacticos in their prime and who wanted to be here.
I don't think the Glazers fund the nation of Israel.
If United are brought by known Arab murderers then I'm absolutely done with the club.
..for about 5 minutes before we sign Neymar!
WE'RE SIGNING FECKING NEYMAR,GUYS!
NEYMAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRR!!
..for about 5 minutes before we sign Neymar!
WE'RE SIGNING FECKING NEYMAR,GUYS!
NEYMAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRR!!
Biggest c*nt of a player out there. Would suit Saudi ownership. Maybe we could get the Bulgarian national coach in aswell. Any more c'nts to sign?
We desperately need owners with ambition but not the House of Saud and their blood money.
We should all protest for the glazers to sell up, get them out and start putting the money generated back into the club rather than their pockets, we need new players, stadium needs updated, get them out!
Maybe because I want it so badly is why I just can’t see it happening, having them sell up would be just too positive for us right now because the doom and gloom over the last few years seems to be stinking up every fibre of the club.
I have a stupid question. My understanding was that MUFC had no debt until the glazers took out a massive loan to buy the club.
Where did the money go from the loan (was it to share holders)?
Where did the money go from the loan (was it to share holders)?
I believe shareholders were recompensed with loans taken out from NY & London hedge funds ( among others ) who enjoyed, in the early days, prior to refinancing, up to £60m plus, annual fees ( or whatever the specific management fee type, quid pro quo, term is? ).
Beautifully put
At least someone got the plane out again!
Well done to everyone who made an effort today and the plane was great.
Predictably he can't say anything else tbf. Didn't see the banner but I applaud the fans who paid for it, need to up the ante on him and hopefully the penny will drop and we see some improvement.
Thanks @FootyGirl88 for the info before and after!
Woodward saying the Glazers are in it for the long term means less than nothing.
If it was the Glazers themselves saying it who knows.
Watch this space. The Glazers are smart enough to have amassed both an incredible fortune anyway, and another one from rinsing us.
They'll surely know that value isn't going much higher, and they may well want to sod it all off.
If it was the Glazers themselves saying it who knows.
Watch this space. The Glazers are smart enough to have amassed both an incredible fortune anyway, and another one from rinsing us.
They'll surely know that value isn't going much higher, and they may well want to sod it all off.
Thanks. It's all so sad.
How can anyone with half a brain be conflicted. Obviously the Saudi regime is hideous and we could never even contemplate a football team with anything to do with it. The Glazers are just shit owners.
Glazer's are not going to advertise that they're leaving when they leave since that would negatively affect the share price. They want to maximise their profit. I think that while we are midtable, they will not sell. They'll wait til we're in Europe again.
It'd be interesting to hear how hard this current period is for them? The rewards of owning a colossal football club in Europe are high but so are the pitfalls. The American sport franchise system, specially the NFL kind is basically socialism for billionaires. TV money is shared, salary caps keep costs down and there is no danger of relegation or staying out competitions that bring in extra revenue. If you're the worst, you get your pick of all the best talent in the NFL draft. And once your stadium starts looking worse for wear, you can threaten to relocate and get the state/city to finance one for you.
It'd be interesting to hear how hard this current period is for them? The rewards of owning a colossal football club in Europe are high but so are the pitfalls. The American sport franchise system, specially the NFL kind is basically socialism for billionaires. TV money is shared, salary caps keep costs down and there is no danger of relegation or staying out competitions that bring in extra revenue. If you're the worst, you get your pick of all the best talent in the NFL draft. And once your stadium starts looking worse for wear, you can threaten to relocate and get the state/city to finance one for you.
If our country see fit to sell arms to the Saudi, then no issues to be owners of Utd.
I think perhaps you should google the meaning of the word conflicted.
You need to Google the meaning of morals, ethics and conscience.
Get off your horse.
I do not want murderers to be the owners of United.
I want United to be successfull again which requires owners that are ambitious and are not going to take money out of the club - nobody is going to be afford this club except people with questionable ethics.
Hence I am conflicted.
Ffs.
I just want United to challenge and to play good, fast attacking football. If they win I want it to be earned and not bought like City or Chelsea.
I love my club and always have, I just hate a large percentage of its supporters and their attitude and the way they portray themselves as the true supporters of this club.
I love my club and always have, I just hate a large percentage of its supporters and their attitude and the way they portray themselves as the true supporters of this club.
Kevin Glazer's recent actions would seem to indicate that Woodward is, for a change, telling the truth here.
I think we are stuck with them.
The club that you love so much would be a PR machine and a toy for one of the most, lets say controversial regimes out there.
Not that it matters but i hope it doesn't happen. I'd rather stick with the Glazers.
Who says the regime is not trying to change their ways. The next heir of the kingdom has certainly talked about some changes.
If we need the Saudis to get rid of the Glazers then so be it, just can´t stand Ed and their shit anymore.
Saudi Arabia is worse than the UAE and Qatar on most levels that can be measured or compared to western values.
And while the other countries certainly are no angels, at least they have seen the importance of having good PR backing them and that theology should not influence everything in ones state. In Saudi Arabia, the theological leaders give credibility to the royal family as long as their values adhere to the views of the theological leaders.
And while the other countries certainly are no angels, at least they have seen the importance of having good PR backing them and that theology should not influence everything in ones state. In Saudi Arabia, the theological leaders give credibility to the royal family as long as their values adhere to the views of the theological leaders.