Leverkusen with one point in four matches. Dortmund, Wolfsburg and Leipzig their next opponents 
German Football 20/21
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Union Berlin looked comfortable the whole match. They were happy to let the Leverkusen midfield have the ball and advance it into the final third. The overall lack of creativity despite having players like Demirbay, Amiri, and Bailey must be a huge cause of concern for them.
Tah said in the post match that Amiri has been called "shit Afghan" by an opponent.
That explains why he got so angry. I wonder if Awoniyi was playing a part given that he got pushed to the side after exchanging words with Amiri.
They will win all of these matches and will only get 1 point against Stuttgart, Mainz, Augsburg & FreiburgLeverkusen with one point in four matches. Dortmund, Wolfsburg and Leipzig their next opponents
Great finish from Haaland, but the goal was dissallowed for offside on Meunier earlier in the move
Why do they give Reus penalties to take? Dumb arses.
He's been their regular penalty taker for the past few years but yea recently he's missed a few. Don't now why Haaland isn't taking penalties, maybe seniority comes in.
Dortmund and Leipzig draw. Bayern will beat Freiburg and go 5 points up in the table
So in the logic of Union DoF Ruhnert, Hübner calling Amiri "fecking Afghan" can't be racist as Hübner's wife is of Indian descent.
This is dodgy on so many levels
This is dodgy on so many levels
Surely it's time Dortmund got in a decent caretaker for rest of the season? What's Hiddink up to? Or Heynckes......
I registered here just to reply to this. In Norway we have been baffled why Haaland does not take the penalties for Dortmund. The guy has become a world class striker the last two years, but he has always been a world class penalty taker since his early youth. Except one miss in a pre season match and one when he slipped as a 15-year old i 2015, Haaland has never missed a penalty
What reason does Sancho have to stay for now? Its a mess if a club atm
You mean for the rest of the season? Or in summer?
Selling a key player in midseason is surely not going to happen.
But I don't think anyone expects Sancho to stay beyond the summer if he has meaningful offers.
In fact, noone really expected him to stay last summer, Dortmund's readiness to sell under the right circumstances was transparent. The surprise was rather that Man United didn't actually pursue the transfer, though with Corona in mind that maybe shouldn't be so surprising.
The question is then, who will be in for him in summer, and how forcefully.
Knee jerk central...
Reus had 4 misses in 19 before today. That's an okay ratio.
And while the team was a mess in the last days of Favre, Terzic has actually done well to stabilize things. It won't be enough to challenge for the league this season, but at the moment it seems like it will probably be enough for a relatively smooth top 4 finish. Calling for him to be sacked a week after beating Leipzig, because his team missed a bunch of chances against Mainz, and to replace him with Hiddink is madness, to put it nicely.
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No, Thiago certainly wasn't the most valuable player. If you created a "ranking" it'd probably be Lewandowski, Neuer, Kimmich, Müller and THEN Thiago but last season you could even make an argument for players like Goretzka, Davies or Gnabry being more important.
May I remind you that Thiago wasn't even a regular starter when Bayern turned things around and that Thiago WAS around when things were complete chaos under Kovac.
That doesn't mean Thiago isn't a top class player but you are going over the top with your "analysis" here especially considering that Thiago simply isn't a leader on the pitch. He works his magic if the team functions as one unit, that's why he could show his full potential in the final CL stage but let's not forget that he had Goretzka at his side and Kimmich who was moved back to RB and was still the guy giving the assist that decided the CL final.
The problems in the current season are down to a lack of intensity, the same problem we had under Kovac (with Thiago). Flick's style of play needs that intensity and if we are talking about CM issues then it's that in the last 2-3 months we often had at least one of Kimmich/Goretzka missing. So in that regard Thiago's absence does hurt because we obviously don't have a backup that is as good as those two.
So in your 'analysis' (if that's how you want to write that), what can Flick so to increase the intensity? People tend to blame players for any lack thereof, but I don't buy that. Creating intensity is part of a coach's squad matchday preparations.
Pretty rich to hang the shitness of the Kovac era onto Thiago when during both Carlo's and most of all Kovac's time Thiago was literally the only player still providing regular top performances week in week out, carrying our sad sorry team to the Meisterschaft basically by himself, all the while Neuer, Müller, Boateng and so on were busy with their mid life crises.
There are just two solutions:
1) Adjust your style of play (so far Flick wasn't willing to do that)
2) Make changes so you can at least get close to the required intensity
There are of course no magic tricks for point 2 but it'd help if Flick wouldn't ignore certain options and be a bit more straighforward in rewarding good performances. For example I don't understand why Hernandez was back on the bench for two games after he had been our best defender this season so far. I get that he prefers Davies as LB due to his offensive qualities but Davies also struggles this season and you could still use Hernandez as CB.
But I don't want to blame it too much on certain player choices, in the end it is also about reaching your players, making sure they are motivated. That's an area where you simply can't give any "advice" from the outside, it's something every coach has to manage in the daily work.
It should however be said that it's normal/understandable for a team to have times when you struggle so it's too early to "panic" but something definitely needs to be done about our defensive issues.
I mean that's just more hyperbole. I just pointed out that you can't have it both ways, having Thiago be responsible for all that is good but give excuses for performances under Kovac who put a lot of trust in him (more than any coach before him, there was a reason why he was never used as pure CM before Kovac). So I don't get from where you get "regulat top performances week in week out". The paradox is actually that Thiago had his best season under Kovac while he struggled when we played better as a team under other coaches.
Overall it isn't about diminishing Thiago's contribution, he was obviously important last season but the same could be said for many players and some of them played a lot more than Thiago and had even more outstanding individuals performances.
That's why it's kind of crazy to suggest any problems now are down to Thiago's absence especially in games like vs Gladbach or Kiel or connect our overall defense issues to Thiago.
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I suppose it might also not help that you played the CL final, meaning that you had the shortest rest of everyone.
That intensity cannot be kept given the lack of rest since Last June. I think Flick might need to adjust tactics and be less aggressive in pressing leaving acres of space in defence
This is exactly how I remember Thiagos 7yr stay at Bayern he had an outstanding last 6 months which kind of atoned for his mediocre 6.5 seasons
Last season Neuer Lewy Kimmich Muller Gnabry were more important than Thiago. He would be around the Gretzka Davies range which was still very good
Yeah, that's what I mentioned in my follow-up post. Interesting challenge for Flick. Mostly for the CL though: given the inconsistency of the competition, you'll have to mess up pretty bad not to win the BL.
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Dortmund absolutely dominated that game, I bet the Mainz GK is still buzzing from his performanceHello
Nothing you can do when a worldy is scored against you.
Dortmund for me look back to their best, some absolutely amazing passages of play yesterday, just were unlucky.
Dortmund absolutely dominated that game, I bet the Mainz GK is still buzzing from his performance
Nothing you can do when a worldy is scored against you.
Dortmund for me look back to their best, some absolutely amazing passages of play yesterday, just were unlucky.
Still Mainz has hit the post twice and a Mainz player was one on one with Burki just 5 minutes from time.
Dortmund's goal was a gift from the Mainz defence as well. 2 serious mistakes in lead up to the equalizer.
In the second half Mainz had the better chances.
Karlsruhe beating the team that beat Bayern the other day, effectively making KSC the best team in Europe
Nice to see Kimmich back.
Thought that was a clear penalty.
Lovely move. 1-0 Lewa.
The Mulldas touch, beautiful assist.
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Interesting game. Bayern have been semi-comfortable but Freiburg have threatened Bayern on more than a few occasions and should probably have scored with Sallai.
I don’t really agree (or missed the Freiburg chance you’re talking about). Bayern could have had 2 penalties on top of their goal.
The first one which the ref went over to look at was a penalty. Sallai missed a sitter for Freiburg.
I don’t remember a sitter for Freiburg but - as mentioned - i could have missed it. Bayern has 60% possession, 13:3 shots and 6:0 corners. It is not a lucky lead.
I didn’t say they were lucky. I said they were fairly comfortable but have been threatened a few times, which they have.
Most of Bayern’s efforts have been from distance.
1-1 Petersen. Scores seconds after coming on.
It's getting ridiculous.