General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
Like Corbyn is going to kill it nationwide?
Absolutely. David Miliband couldn't even win the leadership election and he'd have made sure the Tories didn't have a majority and we'd still be in the EU. Corbyn has won it twice so logic dictates that the Tories will cease to exist as a party and not only would Brexit be stopped but the rest of the EU will apply to join the United Kingdom.
 
Absolutely. David Miliband couldn't even win the leadership election and he'd have made sure the Tories didn't have a majority and we'd still be in the EU. Corbyn has won it twice so logic dictates that the Tories will cease to exist as a party and not only would Brexit be stopped but the rest of the EU will apply to join the United Kingdom.
Rest of the EU - apart from Scotland.
 
Absolutely. David Miliband couldn't even win the leadership election and he'd have made sure the Tories didn't have a majority and we'd still be in the EU. Corbyn has won it twice so logic dictates that the Tories will cease to exist as a party and not only would Brexit be stopped but the rest of the EU will apply to join the United Kingdom.
This is like the twitter polls again.
 
Corbyn has won it twice.
If by it you mean the momentum vote then yup he has... Pretty sure it will cripple the party in the general though.
Anyway it needs to happen to finally force the party to split / become relevant
... A pro Brexit momentum party and a pro remain centrist one would see the best solution and probably inevitable when he secures the worst return on mps since ww2 (no doubt the corbynistas will blame Blair somehow)
 
If by it you mean the momentum vote then yup he has... Pretty sure it will cripple the party in the general though.
Anyway it needs to happen to finally force the party to split / become relevant
... A pro Brexit momentum party and a pro remain centrist one would see the best solution and probably inevitable when he secures the worst return on mps since ww2 (no doubt the corbynistas will blame Blair somehow)
So are baseless conspiracy theories on blame good or bad?
 
I'm kinda meh on Khan. A lot of hype surrounding him but he comes across as a bit...empty, maybe? Might just be me. On the other hand, I don't mind Chuka. Spoke a fair bit of sense on Brexit etc.

both are way better then JC
 
He's not an MP and isn't standing for election. Whilst in theory that might not stop Labour picking him as Leader the press will have a field day with it. I think its naive to think Sadiq Khan's ethnicity and religion wouldn't be a problem for a huge part of the country too as much as it disgusts me to write that.

I strongly believe that the aftermath of Brexit will see a radical change in how people think.
 
That's fair enough but he's literally not a communist. Also(you don't have answer if you don't want to)but is there any policies of Corbyn's Labour that you disagree with ? The policy aren't particularly far left or radical.

He appeased antisemitism and he was very naive regarding the trident. He's also too much in the unions pockets for my liking. Call it egoism but Im sick to the teeth with JC's best mates calling a tube strike every couple of weeks. Some people actually have to work for a living.

However that's not important. The important thing is that JC is un electable material which means that one of the most powerful nations in the world is currently working on a virtual dictatorship. I've worked against that in Malta when our own version of JC was head of the MLP, Id work against that in the UK.
 



This is what's worrying, he invokes highly polarised views. He unquestionably has a lot of supporters who sincerely think he'd be a great Prime Minister. But there are people who hold the same strength of feeling against him (and not just Tories and Ukippers). The election will be a test of which group is greater in number.
 
Call it egoism but Im sick to the teeth with JC's best mates calling a tube strike every couple of weeks. Some people actually have to work for a living.
Can it just be noted that these two sentences were posted in this grouping?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39685106

A cap on energy bills.

It is interesting that when EM put this forward the Tories attacked it as undeliverable and now it is supposedly going to be in their manifesto.
F-f-f-ree markets. Erm...communism. Chairman May!
 
He appeased antisemitism and he was very naive regarding the trident. He's also too much in the unions pockets for my liking. Call it egoism but Im sick to the teeth with JC's best mates calling a tube strike every couple of weeks. Some people actually have to work for a living.

However that's not important. The important thing is that JC is un electable material which means that one of the most powerful nations in the world is currently working on a virtual dictatorship. I've worked against that in Malta when our own version of JC was head of the MLP, Id work against that in the UK.
You haven't mentioned what policies you disagree with. What about Free school meals, more bank holidays, a anti austerity plan for the economy, upping the minimum wage, supporting the NHS. Do you disagree with any of these policies ?

Also for the unions of course Corbyn is close to the unions, it's the LABOUR party. Mate I don't want to have a dig at you but you don't sound particularly Left wing at all.
 
You haven't mentioned what policies you disagree with. What about Free school meals, more bank holidays, a anti austerity plan for the economy, upping the minimum wage, supporting the NHS. Do you disagree with any of these policies ?

Also for the unions of course Corbyn is close to the unions, it's the LABOUR party. Mate I don't want to have a dig at you but you don't sound particularly Left wing at all.

The Tube strikes is a despicable act, lead by a bunch of spoiled kids who hold a monopoly. Rest assured that those suffering the most out of it are not the rich people who can afford a day or two working from home but the vulnerable workers who rely on the tube to go to work

Regarding the NHS I've got family and friends working in it and while I am 100% in favour of saving it I also acknowledge that it need some serious restructuring. The NHS should focus on health. Hospitals services in the UK are like 5 star hotels with hundreds of people employed to make sure the customer get a great service. I've got family and friends working with the darn thing and some of the things they some of the abuse they face on a daily basis border to the surreal. They lost count of how many people do not go attend appointments. In Malta, no one would dare doing such a thing because he will end up at the very end of the appointment list.
 
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I don't understand the hatred people have for Corbyn. I'm not voting Labour but that's only because it's a Tory v Lib Dem battle over here.

Is it simply because he's not New Labour?
 



This is what's worrying, he invokes highly polarised views. He unquestionably has a lot of supporters who sincerely think he'd be a great Prime Minister. But there are people who hold the same strength of feeling against him (and not just Tories and Ukippers). The election will be a test of which group is greater in number.


What should worry you is how a media ran by various foreign nationals who virtually own the tory party have been able to accomplish such visceral hatred for a man who is in reality no extremist, and simply wants everyone to have the best chance possible. I am not blind to his many faults, but there is nothing hate-worthy in the man.


This is the elephant in the room that you are all studiously ignoring. Unless labour elect a leader in the blair mould, that is, friends with murdoch and will never take on the multinational dominance of our governance, they will get the exact same treatment. Khan and Umunna included. Foreign nationals ensuring we get no choice in political direction should scare the living shit out of every single person in the country.
 
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Call it egoism but Im sick to the teeth with JC's best mates calling a tube strike every couple of weeks. Some people actually have to work for a living

Striking for better work conditions, job security and rights

Something you have been totally 'For' previously, these people have to work too, its quite a selfish attitude you have there.
 
Striking for better work conditions, job security and rights

Something you have been totally 'For' previously, these people have to work too, its quite a selfish attitude you have there.

they have great working conditions and certainly don't need to strike every 2 months. Whom do you think they are hurting by doing so? It certainly not hurting those rich enough not to need to work
 
Would you rather those working people were decimated like teachers and nurses have been?

Id rather see them get on with our work. Their salary/conditions is quite competitive. Surely there's no need for a strike every couple of months
 
The trolleys in the corridors are pretty swish though.

That's why I've said restructuring. The NHS is busy accommodating its hordes of managers + patients who can't be bothered attending appointments because its too cold outside. Meanwhile cuts are being made that is hurting those who actually need it.
 
You don't get to determine that their work conditions are great

You sound so Tory sometimes


Or maybe i am a person whose experienced enough to know how the world work. If technology improves enough to have them all fired then rest assured that most people in the uk would want that technology to be introduced in the uk. They certaintly wont find any sympathy from the public. Thats what happens when you abuse from your position
 
Or maybe i am a person whose experienced enough to know how the world work. If technology improves enough to have them all fired then rest assured that they wont find any sympathy from the public. Thats what happens when you abuse from your position

Thats the most stereotypical right wing way you could have responded to that...
 
Thats the most stereotypical right wing way you could have responded to that...

Its the truth. I've lived in London in the past 3 years and I've yet to hear one person saying something nice about tube drivers. Maybe labour needs to listen more what the general public are saying and less to unions whose paying the bills. That's the first step of actually winning a general elections
 
Or maybe i am a person whose experienced enough to know how the world work. If technology improves enough to have them all fired then rest assured that most people in the uk would want that technology to be introduced in the uk. They certaintly wont find any sympathy from the public. Thats what happens when you abuse from your position
They'd get more sympathy then any banker that gets fired, from me anyhow
 
So when the next Tory regime takes away all your workers rights and then tell you your conditions are great, you'll be happy with that?

You'll find that there's a massive gap between the salary/conditions of a tube drivers and slavery