Gotcha, so 64% presumably want no brexit.
And they are represented by a party that are pro brexit
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And they are represented by a party that are pro brexit
...which I find surprising even if simply from a politically opportunistic view point.
Technically there could also be a huge "not sure" "don't know" section.... Probably it could be a lot less we than 64%
We need the source
45% delighted or pleased if result was reversed, 42% if a second referendum was given. So that presumably leaves 19% either dont know or don't care.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...te-three-line-whip-party-leader-a7567161.html
I didn't know that polling data, so I stand corrected and change my position to that yes he should of opposed Brexit if that's what his electorate want. I guess it depends how many Stoke type seats there are too though.
I don't think Corbyn thinks that way. He'll stand by his principles rather than compromise them to win votes (EU may be the only example where, somewhat reluctantly, he backed Remain under party pressure).
It will be a lot longer than that, I expect. By 2022 the Scots will probably be gone, constituency boundary reforms will have taken effect and we will be well on the way to becoming 'England', a one-party state. It's Tories forever. 2015 was a really bad one to lose.
What is Tim Farron playing at with his comments about homosexuality? That's all he is going to be asked on any future interviews until he gives a definitive answer. And even if he gives the right one it's only going to be because he's been forced to.
Idiot.
Idiot.
Thanks. I wish newspapers commonly displayed opinion polls as graphics.
But then you get the Times with some atrocious data visualizations / propaganda
I'll be voting anyone but Tories. All they're going to do is feck this country for their own benefits (as normal).
Osborne quitting parliament, silver linings.
they also gave their lives for people to have the right to not bother with a vote...
I live in a massive tory wasteland so just spoil my vote, there really is no point in voting where I live as it's a massively white middle class rural area and even the kids vote tory.
Probably after the Sunderland job
Spoiling your vote is an extremely democratic action. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Oh for PR.
Been the leader of the 'Liberal' party and thinking homosexuality is a sin isn't really going to go down well with your voter base.
There seems to be an idea pushed in here that Corbyn went against his MPs in standing by the referendum result, in fact all the political chatter was that the right of the party supported this direction because of the polling data they had.
This will be a major test of that approach but i think it'll be proven right (not that it means election victory).
Its a seat by seat discussion rather than the spread of voters, in the likes of Stoke on Trent North going against Brexit would have resulted in a lost seat.
The whole thing is sad really.
He could stand up for the LGBT community and how it get's ostracised by the church. Instead he just repeats that "we are all sinners". Bit pointless.
They have a largely different voter base now anyway. Whats left hardly resembles the Lib Dems.
Long ago, all three main parties and many smaller ones came to an unwritten agreement to put forward candidates in every seat, to give people a real choice, to prevent the rise the BNP or National Front of UKIP.
Want to protest? Vote Lib Dem against the Tories.
But it does seem like a progressive alliance between Lib Dems, Labour, Greens an maybe the SNP are the only chance we have of stopping the Tories.
Will it happen though? No.
More info on that 1997 partnership http://www.markpack.org.uk/142050/cook-maclennan-talks/
its disgusting in this day and age that that question even exists, the Answer Tim was "OF COURSE ITS NOT A SIN WHAT KIND OF QUESTION IS THAT ITS THE 21ST CENTURY!! now ask me a real question" anyone who doesn't answer to that effect has no place in government in this country!
Well my answer would be "Sins are an idea we humans made up."
i still think their a mainly a party of the centre, maybe a bit more right then they where 10 years ago, but they still have a large liberal voter base thats not gonna do him any favours as he tries to rebuild his party after the disaster of the last election.
thats a whole new kind of debate lol.....
England prevails!
Farron did support same sex marriage so unless there's examples to the contrary he keeps his views out of his political decision making. Of course it still doesn't help this thing go away and he will get constant questions about it until the election.
A little? Even Nick Cleggs manifesto was way to the left of Corbyns proposals now. Mansion Tax, No Trident Renewal, Free Tution, No new nuclear, huge investment into education, get rid of academies, reduce minor criminal sentences for community services, immigrant amnesty and it goes on and on.
Anyone supporting Clegg back then should be throwing in with Corbyn not the fraud of the party that is left with Farron in charge.
All politicians lie, but May should have a flashing neon sign on her head saying "I am telling porkies" - she's a terrible liar
She wants an election now to ensure that there is no election when the Brexit negotiations "reach a crucial stage". Hohoho. By 2020 the negotiations will be long finished and the UK will be out.
Pity Corbyn is so hopeless giving some decent opposition
She wants an election now to ensure that there is no election when the Brexit negotiations "reach a crucial stage". Hohoho. By 2020 the negotiations will be long finished and the UK will be out.
Pity Corbyn is so hopeless giving some decent opposition
Nick Robinson interviews The Appeaser like he's phoning a sex line.
No they won't
Gotta love how both those politicians of substance, Cameron and May, refused to participate in televised debates.
Spoiling your vote is completely your own decision, and one you have every right to make. It's utterly unproductive though. The whole reason there will never be any real opposition in your area is because loads of the people who aren't Tory will keep spoiling ballots or not bothering because 'there's no point'.
There have been seats considered utterly and completely safe that have flipped in the past because of unexpected events or just a total lack of belief in the host party. By voting, you send a signal to your own party preference that hey it might actually be worth putting up a decent candidate and investing resources into trying to win this place. You gain nothing at all by spoiling your ballot other than some sense of satisfaction. It doesn't send a message to any party that they'll actually listen to.
The problem is, as the Tories like to repeat as mantra, that Labour didn't run a budget surplus even before the financial crisis.
http://www.debtbombshell.com/britains-budget-deficit.htm
It's just not a sensible way of running a country, and this applies to any of them. USA, UK, Germany, Japan, etc.
So, why can't we just borrow money ad infinitum? After all, it's perfectly common to get a mortgage... and then another one and another one, only stopping when you die. And the UK Government doesn't have a life expectancy, so they can borrow money forever?
You can, and that's fine. But doing this is a perfect way to create brutal and crippling inequality.
You could view the UK Government as the owner of much of the UK Wealth, of which, every UK Citizen is an equal shareholder. As the UK Government gets richer, we all get richer. As the UK Government gets poorer, we all get poorer. The Tories say that Labour should have "put away money for a rainy day", but I think it's even more fundamental than that...
Norway has their oil fund. An $892 billion fund that helps pay for the running of their country and will help even further in future generations. They are by no means, the only country to have one of these. Lot's of countries have them. They simply use the money to invest in the global market, and as Warren Buffett knows, the value of the fund will increase by approximately 7% above inflation. That doesn't sound like much, but over 35 years, in grows in value by 10x above inflation. Over 70 years, the fund it grows in value by 100x above inflation. So this sounds like a pretty nifty thing to have, right. Could help pay for country. Just like a pension, put £1000 away today, and take out £10,000 when we retire...
Well the UK doesn't have one of these. We don't have a fancy wealth fund. We've been one of the richest countries for a long time, (occasional periods of crippling debt when we had to rescue a King or fund a War aside), and yet we have no super-kitty kept in reserve. And we're a bit short on fancy natural resources like oil.
Instead, we're taking the opposite approach, borrowing more and more money and putting that debt onto future generations (partly us, partly our kids). Maybe we should sell off the crown jewels. Privatise the Royal Family. Get sponsorship from Barclays.
But all of this is sad really. The rich will become super-rich as the money they hold doubles, and doubles and doubles again. The poor will become poorer as the debt we hold doubles and doubles and doubles again.
Debt is a useful tool; Want to build a fancy bridge that will bring in £1m a year... borrow £5m to build it. Great! But we are all going to get poorer and poorer as the rich get richer and richer.
Note - I am not saying we need austerity. Cutting back on spending when you need growth is fundamentally wrong too.
Exactly why i cannot trust Labour with the UK economy. The idea you can keep spending forever is flawed. The UK has overstretched itself and needs to reign the borrowing in from current levels. Osborne made a good start of it but Brexit has put us back to square one.
The conservatives have their flaws but they're are currently the best option for the country as a whole.
Cameron did it didn't he? Can't remember, but I do recall the Paxman ones.
Bum. 
I should stick to 'Is this the ghost of my credibility?' posts.
I should stick to 'Is this the ghost of my credibility?' posts.Yeah he did on the very last one. The 7 way debate.