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Not exactly sure where to put this but... Sacha Baron Cohen schemed his way into a 3% (far-right ‘militia’ type) rally by throwing a bunch of money around as a fake PAC. They then let him get up on stage and sing, to predictable results. :D

Baron Cohen...was dressed in overalls and a fake beard as he sang about injecting Obama, Fauci, the World Health Organization, CNN and anyone who was wearing a mask with the “Wuhan flu” or alternatively chopping them up “like the Saudis do.” ...But as the video shows, some members of the crowd were more than willing to sing along with him for quite some time.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/sacha...ight-wing-militia-event-in-olympia-washington

 
Sweet Square said:


@villain might be of some interest to you.
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Ah Patrice Lumumba, another one of the early African leaders who wanted real change and progress only to be killed by/with the help of foreign intervention. His story is great, but so tragic - the way he was killed is beyond disgusting.
The conspiracy theorist in me would say that, progressive African leaders were strategically targeted post-colonialism and only dictators were allowed to reign, but I don't know enough about African historical politics to proclaim that as nothing more than a guess.
 
villain said:
The conspiracy theorist in me would say that, progressive African leaders were strategically targeted post-colonialism and only dictators were allowed to reign, but I don't know enough about African historical politics to proclaim that as nothing more than a guess.
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i don't know much in general either, but it happened here too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Burkinabé_coup_d'état

e - possibly i think i've linked this wiki before in a similar context. anyway, this is definitely new:


edit again - the coup happened when the socialist Mitterand was in power. This is a common pattern among a lot of social democrats - Attlee was creating the NHS and also doing massacres in malaysia, LBJ signed civil rights and started a war on poverty while murdering millions in vietnam.
The only one with a clean (and actually exemplary) record on international issues is Olof Palme. in what is surely a massive coincidence, he was assassinated too.
 
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Whoa, 113 deaths and over 100 still missing from a landslide at a Jade mine in Myanmar. They were mostly poor freelance workers who dig through the tailings of the actual mine. There’s video after the jump...

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In potato news, the mystery of potatoes showing up in Polynesia long before Europeans brought them over from the Americas has been partially solved. Some Polynesians have Native American DNA and it points to interaction around 1200 AD. Interestingly it was not the closest place-Rapa Nui (Easter Island)-that this traces back to, meaning that journey was even more impressive.

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Scientists didn't land a single punch on the free and crtical thinkers.



I think it's an interesting comment on the theme of the youtube channel, "bridge people together and inspire love through compelling stories", "radical empathy", and "middle ground".
 
berbatrick said:
Scientists didn't land a single punch on the free and crtical thinkers.



I think it's an interesting comment on the theme of the youtube channel, "bridge people together and inspire love through compelling stories", "radical empathy", and "middle ground".
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Middle ground is dandy when you have two groups with opposing views who have done proper research and are contesting a debatable topic. There's no room for middle ground when you're arguing against lunatics who oppose basic scientific facts, such as flat earthers and anti-vaxxers.
 
berbatrick said:
Scientists didn't land a single punch on the free and crtical thinkers.



I think it's an interesting comment on the theme of the youtube channel, "bridge people together and inspire love through compelling stories", "radical empathy", and "middle ground".
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van der star said:
Middle ground is dandy when you have two groups with opposing views who have done proper research and are contesting a debatable topic. There's no room for middle ground when you're arguing against lunatics who oppose basic scientific facts, such as flat earthers and anti-vaxxers.
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Today has seen a nation wide meet up of Germany's (and I believe a Dutch contingent) deplorables and idiots to protest Corona measures in Berlin. The event was initially rejected by Berlin's senator of the interior (who has a SED past, which didn't exactly help with public perception), only to be overruled by the courts, which caused a lot of controversy before it even started. Nonethteless thus far the official count is "only" 38000 protestors rather than the millions the organizers proudly promised.
Thankfully the whole affair appears to have been mostly peaceful aside from the crowd protesting infront of the Russian embassy to demand a peace treaty (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbürger_movement).

The biggest story of the day will probably be the 100-200(!?) people getting past the police to run up the Reichstag (parliament) steps, celebrating themselves as revolutionaries. You only have to look at the flags they are carrying to know what they are really about.

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do.ob said:
Today has seen a nation wide meet up of Germany's (and I believe a Dutch contingent) deplorables and idiots to protest Corona measures. As the event was initially rejected by Berlin's senator of the interior (who has a SED past, which didn't exactly help with public perception), only to be overruled by the courts, which caused a lot of controversy before it even started. Nonethteless thus far the official count is "only" 38000 protestors rather than the millions the organizers promised.
Thankfully the whole affair appears to have been mostly peaceful aside from the crowd protesting infront of the Russian embassy to demand a peace treaty (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbürger_movement).

The biggest story of the day will probably be the 100-200(!?) people getting past the police to run up the Reichstag (parliament) steps, celebrating themselves as revolutionaries. You only have to look at the flags they are carrying to know what they are really about.

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Maybe we need a German Empire thread to go along with the British Empire one.
 
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Maybe we need a German Empire thread to go along with the British Empire one.
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I don't think the two compare. The guys who bring those flags are either "Reichsbürger" conspiracy lunatics or some extreme right wingers / Nazis who use it as a substitute for the banned swastika flags. The general public doesn't glorify or even really concern itself with those times.
 
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do.ob said:
Today has seen a nation wide meet up of Germany's (and I believe a Dutch contingent) deplorables and idiots to protest Corona measures. As the event was initially rejected by Berlin's senator of the interior (who has a SED past, which didn't exactly help with public perception), only to be overruled by the courts, which caused a lot of controversy before it even started. Nonethteless thus far the official count is "only" 38000 protestors rather than the millions the organizers proudly promised.
Thankfully the whole affair appears to have been mostly peaceful aside from the crowd protesting infront of the Russian embassy to demand a peace treaty (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbürger_movement).

The biggest story of the day will probably be the 100-200(!?) people getting past the police to run up the Reichstag (parliament) steps, celebrating themselves as revolutionaries. You only have to look at the flags they are carrying to know what they are really about.

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The good old empire. Everything seems great with the passing of a few generations.
 


True! Although the writing has been on the wall for some time. I was just expecting peace to be brokered by regional actors, in secret.
 
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True! Although the writing has been on the wall for some time. I was just expecting peace to be brokered by regional actors, in secret.
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More tham Trump, Bibi deserves massive credit. He has been leader for more than a decade during which all the serious writing from western sources said that Israel was isolating itself and undermining its future by its increasing land grab, intermittent bombing, and cooling relations with young American Jews.

From what I understand, he (presumably) realised what was happening with the Iraq invasion and everything that followed, Iran becoming a stronger regional power and a bigger problem for the Arab states, and so the mututal interests of America, the Arab states, and Israel converging as they went to contain Iran. He also saw an alternative base of support in America - evengelical Christians.
So when everything came together with Trump getting elected on the evangelical vote, then tearing up the Iran deal, and the division between the two American allies (Turkey and the Gulf states) being resolved by Trump against Turkey, Bibi took advantage.
Israel is stronger than ever internationally and the Palestinian leadership looks dead and discredited.

A world-historic figure.
 


2008, LIBOR, Panama papers and other tax evasion, banking for cartels, this is just another in a line of big exposes that mean nothing:

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No, the Europeans don't grasp it. They haven't a clue what's going on!

EU politicians still talk of a MEPP - Middle East Peace Process. There is no Peace Process! MEPP is a relic of the past.

Also, EU politicians fail to grasp the bigger picture. They talk as if the only conflict in the Middle East is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

I cringe when I hear an EU politician claim that solving the conflict will bring stability to the region.
 
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@berbatrick

Taken over here from this thread. I wanted to pick it up once more, as I didn't 100% get how it was meant.

The examples you chose - employer power, wage gap - were pretty much tailored to highlight the deficits of a purely liberal concept of equality when it comes to economic power. They work well as examples because they're obviously economic issues. But would you expand that into a general statement?

Meaning: do you think primarily non-economic issues like racism and the reality of gender can be properly addressed under the primate of class politics? (I know some do, that's why I'm asking.)
 
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Stumbled across this Quora legend. https://www.quora.com/profile/Roger-Carmichael-6

His answer to What is the stupidest thing done by a Roman Emperor? is brilliant.

A lot of people don’t know this rare historical fact, but Augustus Caesar tried to kill all the ants in the entire Roman Empire.

Yes, Augustus was a great man. Yes, his public works revitalized Rome. Yes, he ushered in a grand imperial age, but, he also tried to kill all the ants. This was allegedly done in order to protect crops.

He gave cash prizes to anyone who would kill 50 ants. This actually caused the ant population to explode, because everyone from Brittania to Egypt and from Hispania Ulterior to Asia Minor started ant farms. The city of Rome was actually blockaded by thousands of ships carrying nothing but bags of dead ants.

Then Augustus knew he messed up. He immediately stopped paying people for ant corpses to prevent the empire from going bankrupt. All those ant farmers who had sailed to Rome now started to grind up their ants and pass it off as blackberry jam. They sold many jars and killed hundreds of people with the poisonous jam. Many of the ants were, in fact, still alive, which led to an ant infestation all over Italy.

Although he wanted to protect crops, he ended up doing the opposite as the explosion in ants resulted in all of the food being eaten. Millions died because of the ant fiasco. Fortunately, the Romans were just; Augustus was forced to run around the city of Rome completely naked for 3 hours as a punishment. He got a terrible sunburn.
 
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