5/6 to stay at Madrid, in case anyone wants free money.
Evens to join United.
Evens to join United.
Gareth Bale
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Indeed. It's a shame it hasn't worked out but Real Madrid have chewed up and spat out a lot of good players over the years.
If I were to take a player from Madrid as a swap for De Gea, I would choose Carvajal and not Bale. I don't get all this excitement for Bale when we have Di Maria.
I'd take both minimum otherwise no deal!
If we're to get Bale in a swap for De Gea, it wouldn't be a straight swap, we'd be adding a lot of cash. So I'd rather do De Gea for Carvajal straight up, and then try do a separate deal for Bale.
Yeah why not especially when they are offering a reported €20m!!
Yeah because Carvajal is soo exiting isn't he?
Oh bloody hell... Reminds me of the we tried to get Fellaini and Baines together deal...
We need a right back and Carvajal is a good right back. Bale would just be a luxury signing when we have more capable players in Mata and Di Maria.
Bale is better than both of them
For being such a great player he's done feck all this season, his only weapon is his pace not to mention he can't go past defenders unless he has space to run into and he will find it very difficult to fit into van Gaal's system.
He wouldn't have helped in any of the games were our opponents only left us very tight spaces.
Who can go past defenders without space to run into? Kind of defeats the object... Unintelligent footballers try to get out of blind alleys.
His goal return is still better than anyone playing for us.
Done f all? Bale's apparently having a shit season but still has something like 14 goals and 9 asssts. Hazard has less and gets PFA player of the year.
Messi, Hazard, Isco, Iniesta, Neymar, Sterling. Players like Bale or Di Maria are excellent when running at top speed with the ball, but not very effective in our system.
I don't think we need him. We could play Depay on the left and di Maria as LCM, and try to emulate Real Madrid from 13/14. Although an attacking triplet of Depay-Rooney-Bale, with di Maria-Carrick (New DM)-Herrera could be devastating.
Shame we probably won't play that way, so my guess would be avoiding Bale thus preventing di Maria like problems from occurring again.
Shame we probably won't play that way, so my guess would be avoiding Bale thus preventing di Maria like problems from occurring again.
If Bale can truly play as RW than he's no luxury signing.
I am huge Bale fan and would love to see him in our colors but world record fee....jeez.
60m-70m tops.
60m-70m tops.
He'd be perfect for us, but then again I said that about Di Maria too. Under SAF both would, but under LVG you never know.
This!
His delivery is very good. He's as good as Mata, if not better at set pieces and he's a threat. He would get 15+ goals in our team. Trust me, he would be a big plus. He's could also play full back 
There's some strange opinions on Bale in here. He'd instantly become our best attacking player if we signd him. Can play 3 or 4 positions. He'd add pace to our slow attack. He's already won player of the year here twice. He's still fairly young, and we wouldn't have to worry about losing him to Spain. But ermmm yeah, he's no good at tippy tappy, or something..
He is. He's one of the best RB's out there and we need one, I'd cream myself more if we signed Carvajal actually.
There's some strange opinions on Bale in here. He'd instantly become our best attacking player if we signd him. Can play 3 or 4 positions. He'd add pace to our slow attack. He's already won player of the year here twice. He's still fairly young, and we wouldn't have to worry about losing him to Spain. But ermmm yeah, he's no good at tippy tappy, or something..
Well said. He's no good in tight spaces you see...
Di Maria + De Gea for Bale?
He would have, because with his pace and genuine goal threat on the break we're not always trying umpteen 5 yard passes before we get it forward or into wide areas. Defenders back off strong and fast attacking players - It stretches the game, makes us less predictable and leaves more space in attacking areas - not to mention the fact that sides might have to try to double up on him leaving other good players with a bit more freedom.
The system as it stands doesn't work against sides that pack midfield and defence because we're desperately slow in moving the ball - in terms of passing and in having players with genuine pace to change the pace of the attack, which is exactly what the best teams do.
I've no doubt Van Gaal recognises this and will address it in the summer by whatever means. Some seem to think we need a team full of Mata's or Herrera's who can pass the ball to death. That's what's making us so predictable for me. teams just sit back, try and play on the break (happy with a draw) and wait for us to try and unpick them with eye of the needle passes through midfield or crosses into a packed 18 yard box. It's straight forward and defenders love it - hence why we've struggled to break down even average sides in a lot of games this year.
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Neither can he bring the ball down like Berbatov. How's he going to cope when his pace goes.
What - when he's in his mid thirties? Who cares, it's ages away. Infact, maybe he has a word with Ryan Giggs. He might be able to help him out.
It's insane how much he divides opinions on here - 17 goals in all comps I think. In what's been painted as a disastrous season, which only really went on the wane over the last few months when the fans got on his back for not always passing it to Ronaldo. That's clearly affected his confidence so it's hardly fair to take 2015 as the blueprint for his current ability.
Pace isn't his only skill either, he has a brilliant left foot. You know, for passing to other people. And, here's a thought, perhaps he could combine his pace with his ability to pass a ball and put some crosses in. The one thing Ashley Young has done relatively well this season and is getting huge amounts of praise for!
The supposed fee for Bale was 91m Euros. So even matching what Real paid for him, to keep their ego in check, would amount to something like £65m on today's exchange rate. Talk of >£90m is just nonsense.
I'd have him in a heartbeat. Mata is great and I enjoy his hugs, as well as his link to Herrera, but a winger he is not. Bale would be so much more productive than Mata on that right side.
Whlist I agree that Bale is a good player, statistical comparison to someone who plays for an defensive Chelsea in the EPL doesn't make any sense.
Even so, there have been few jobs that LVG has had that he's been around long enough to be allowed to put his stamp on squads. His whole mindset was to work with what he inherits and bring through youth. If Bale was already here, LVG would have worked with him enough to play or adjust his system. The same way if Young and Fellani were playing for Spurs and became available, there would be few here who would say they were LVG signings or if they fit into our style of play.
Like someone above mentioned: If Bale comes here, he'd be our main man alongside Rooney. A very different situation to Madrid, where he is a cultural outsider who's expected to feed Ronaldo above all else.
The way some people talk about him you'd think his time in the PL is comparable to Matt Jarvis or Stewart Downing on a good run of form. Have you forgotten how ridiculously good he was? No, I wouldn't want him if we have to pay +70, but if we can get him for 50-60, then it's a no brainer.
The way some people talk about him you'd think his time in the PL is comparable to Matt Jarvis or Stewart Downing on a good run of form. Have you forgotten how ridiculously good he was? No, I wouldn't want him if we have to pay +70, but if we can get him for 50-60, then it's a no brainer.
Bale has struggled this season. Sure.
He has been far from awful...and their fans are a joke. Get him in a United shirt and we'll see the best of him again.
He has been far from awful...and their fans are a joke. Get him in a United shirt and we'll see the best of him again.
We'd be giving them too much, Di Maria should not be included in any deal for Bale.
People need to remember that we are big news, we create paper sales and website clicks. Just because we get linked to all these big names, it doesn't always mean we are definitely in for them.
World cup, The Dutch played 5-3-2, and defended the whole time, with Robben running at opponents with all the possible freedom. We will not play that way.
He can take players on, but he need space. We play in a were there isn't enough space, so you need players who can work in tight spaces and he can't.
No, the Di Maria comparison was spot on. What have 10 goals a season to do with anything I said? I compared Di Maria and Bale, because they both need space to take players on. That's why di Maria had his best spells as midfielder, while as winger he couldn't do a thing (I know he isn't that bad, but at his best he is not a WC winger when it comes working in tight spaces). Real's strength was coming from deep and counter attack. Even last season they had big problems breaking teams down, as they couldn't counter attack.
Also, Bale will score 25 goals if we let him shoot when ever he wants. And that's not going to happen.
I just don't get why would anyone be happy to pay more then 30-35mil pounds(which is big money) on him, not even to mention 80mil. If he is 80mil pound player, or even close, I have to say that football has hit it lowest point in history.
Agreed. We can however play in the same way Bayern did under van Gaal, with Robben out wide in either a 4231/442 or a 433...
Look, I wouldn't be against him, as we could change our system a bit, but no way is he worth 80mil, or even close. Even with the system he likes he isn't that good, but the bigger problem is that he isn't really able to play in systems which presses the opponent more so we would need to take him off in these situations.
If we could get him for 30-35, which is no possible it would be fine, but 80.....
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