I simultaneously burst out laughing and felt a pang of sympathy for him when he run the ball straight out of play late in the second half.
Gareth Bale
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I'm a Bale man all day long. When Hazard has his Bale CL moment I might re-consider.
How exactly can he do that? Real will say, pay up or feck off.
I'm still sceptical he will be for sale.
Real can splash £100mil without selling him and that's being conservative.
Real can splash £100mil without selling him and that's being conservative.
£30m and I'm in.
Who says they are that keen to keep him? If rumours are to be believed, Bale wants out and Madrid most likely looking for a shiny new toy.
so he's worth less or the same as Ross Barkley now
I think it's a good time to put a bid in. Madrid are in a mess and they will try to find someone to blame, they won't be able to squeeze every penny out of us because it will be a different situation than Di Maria who they sold after his best season ever in which they won Champions League. Bale (or whoever they decide to sell) could simply be deemed a bad fit for the purpose.
We could offer them Di Maria back in exchange. All sides would benefit from it as I'd definitely expect Bale to do better than Di Maria in England and Di Maria is probably something they need much more than Bale right now. He was their talisman last season and I really think they're missing him badly this year.
We could offer them Di Maria back in exchange. All sides would benefit from it as I'd definitely expect Bale to do better than Di Maria in England and Di Maria is probably something they need much more than Bale right now. He was their talisman last season and I really think they're missing him badly this year.
There's no chance a player of Bale calibre will go for £30m. More like £60m.
I can see everyone from Bayern to PL teams interested I doubt Real will make a loss.
Indeed. Rarely does a player become available who can add what you're lacking and with a proven track record of success in the Premier League. The fact that he'd be close to his family is also a big bonus. You'd also think the Giggs connection might be a factor.
That's the bottom line - people easily forget what he's done. I think he's a viable player for us not because of what he's done for Real Madrid, but for what he did for Spurs. I personally think that after his time in Spain, which you could say has had its highs and lows he's likely to become a stronger character and a better player for it.
In Madrid it seems he's the one they want to blame and that's just how it is. He'd probably do a lot better if he wasnt a bit part player with Ronaldo being the focus of how the team is set up, but he'll have known that when he signed. All in all he's done well in Madrid and probably better than a lot of people would have thought.
The fact is we become a different proposition for teams to defend against with a player like Bale in the side because he has shown he can hurt teams on his own. We're too slow and too predictable as it stands. He'd be the ideal signing for me.
I would love to know what the absolute feck is going on here.
The context doesn't really make it any better, but he isn't making those sounds anymore so maybe that is the difference in Bale today.
Ah, come on. I wasn't overly serious with the price and I'm fully aware we won't get him for that, I just don't want him for anywhere close to what you expect we'll end up pay.
United should buy him just for that.Fully aware of that but since I'm no fan of him I wouldn't want us to pay a ridiculous sum.
As opposed to Hazard who has played against ... ?
I hope Bale comes here and proves the doubters wrong. Class act, seen him play in person multiple times, this myth that he is a one season wonder is ridiculous. Yes his main attribute is his pace but he's a good crosser, good in the air, great left foot and most of all he is direct, something we haven't had for years. He also put in some lovely long passes against Juve that went unnoticed and he was no worse than Ronaldo or Caf golden boy Pogba. I guess most people don't pay much attention to international football either but Bale's performances for club and country are miles apart, especially this season. In the past, I've seen him walk through a Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic midfield with ease, I've seen him bully defences as the main man and I've seen him single handedly raise the level of all the players around him, minus James Collins who's shite. He's dragged Wales to joint top of the qualifying group and we might even get to the Euros. I can guarantee we would be nowhere near if we took Bale out of the equation. He may not be a great 'technician' but he's bloody effective in what he can do.
I really do question the sanity of some fans who would turn down a proven premier league commodity because he 'may' have turned us down in the past. You could probably count on one hand the amount of players who would turn down Real Madrid for a transitioning Moyes led United. I could understand if people didn't want him because of the fee but to ascertain that Bale is an average footballer, one season wonder is bordering on Brendan Rodgers levels of player evaluation and that blokes a walking parody of a parody. Some players aren't suited for Spanish football and I think Bale is one of them. Bring him here and give him a free role and he'll bang in 25+. Football fans really are a fickle bunch.
I really do question the sanity of some fans who would turn down a proven premier league commodity because he 'may' have turned us down in the past. You could probably count on one hand the amount of players who would turn down Real Madrid for a transitioning Moyes led United. I could understand if people didn't want him because of the fee but to ascertain that Bale is an average footballer, one season wonder is bordering on Brendan Rodgers levels of player evaluation and that blokes a walking parody of a parody. Some players aren't suited for Spanish football and I think Bale is one of them. Bring him here and give him a free role and he'll bang in 25+. Football fans really are a fickle bunch.
What moment was that? Missing chances and getting his arse saved by Ramos scoring in the last minute.
Hazard is miles better as a footballer. Also don't buy this bullshit that Chelsea will dominate if they get Bale. I presume these same people said the same shit, when we got Carrick, whilst they signed Shevchenko and Ballack in 2006.
Bale isn't very good on the right. So that leaves playing him in the middle off Costa. Fabregas and Bale is too attack minded for Jose.
Which impressive performances are we talking about? There were two important goals in the finals but that's pretty much as far as it goes. A Madrid fan last year was saying that's the main criticism against him in fact:
In the CL final he was criticised by fans and pundits alike throughout the 90 minutes and if not for Ramos scoring the key goal in the game in the dying minutes, he would've been roundly criticised as being the main contributor to their profligacy in front of goal. He scored a tap-in which di Maria created on his own and that was it. That alone doesn't lift a performance from being wasteful to being very impressive. I suspect you're judging him based on his goals and watched very little of his "very impressive performances" last year.
The 'it's not a Fergie team' argument doesn't really work imo. Teams always sat back against us and they do the same now. Little difference really.
Gareth Bale would be a fantastic signing for us.
Gareth Bale would be a fantastic signing for us.
It annoys me and confuses me when I see people completely dismiss Bale. He's fecking brilliant. It's just not working out for him at Madrid. He needs to be the main man, and under Ronaldo, he'll never be that. Maybe he's just not suited to the Spanish game.
People are clearly forgetting how insane he was for Spurs. He carried that team and did so marvelously. He may not have been worth the £85million, but bloody hell people on here have just dismissed him as a world class footballer from his time in Madrid.
It's no surprise that he's a different player when he reports back to Wales for International matches. His general play is a whole lot more "Spurs-Bale". More confident and more free-flowing.
I genuinely question people's footballing judgement when they don't believe Bale would improve us by n-fold.
People are clearly forgetting how insane he was for Spurs. He carried that team and did so marvelously. He may not have been worth the £85million, but bloody hell people on here have just dismissed him as a world class footballer from his time in Madrid.
It's no surprise that he's a different player when he reports back to Wales for International matches. His general play is a whole lot more "Spurs-Bale". More confident and more free-flowing.
I genuinely question people's footballing judgement when they don't believe Bale would improve us by n-fold.
I was thinking of his displays for spurs as it goes in the CL.....
Edit: Hazard is no where near the end product of Bale!
He carried a Spurs team to 5th. Suarez carried average Liverpool team to 2nd and inches away from title.
Tell me, how does he fit in Van Gaals system? Don't say oh he's world class and we should break the bank. Because we signed a world class player last year and he doesn't seem to fit in our system.
He was thriving at Spurs because teams didn't park the bus against them. We'd get that happen to us in most of our fixtures. And I don't think Bale is the player to solve that especially with the fees that are being mentioned. Anything over £50m is insane for him.
My apologies. Thought you assumed the final last season.
Hazard in the big league games for Chelsea has performed very well.
Good post. Totally agree.
That's because your heart is set on Ronnie coming home.
His body language couldn't have been more transparent. He looks like someone who is really not enjoying his football at all. You could see him beating himself up over absolutely everything he did wrong. There's no chance of him excelling when his head is as wrecked as it evidently is right now, playing for Madrid. Which also explains why he's been a different player for Wales, with all that weight off his shoulders.
Take out the pens and looks at Hazards Stats. No where near Bale at Spurs or Bale last season I suspect. What has Hazard done in the CL which made him shine like the 21 year old Bale who scored a Hatrick? And saying he's not suited to us should be left to LVG....
This is very true Crackers. There can only be one.
Or the fact Ronnie will never come home if Bale signs for us this summer....
Agreed, posts keep mentioning our style of play...what is it? it's changed several times this season. Do people ever stop and think that LVG sets out the way he does because of the players at his disposal. He's relying on Valencia to be our threat up the right ffs.
That'll break the poor man. Him and iSparky will lose so much hope that not even Pexbo could save them.
Nobody is saying he won't improve us, just that it wouldn't be great business for that kind of money and that he shouldn't be a priority. I am not even against spending big money, but I would much rather want us to spend it on a CB or a midfielder (where we need most likely 2). When I just hear people mentioning "He needs to be the main man." then I am already disappointed, I want us to see a brilliant team, if Bale can be part of it, then fine. But I don't want to see us playing like an average team and then getting saved by a individual moment every game. Was already the case in Fergies last season and it was already pretty clear that we are in a decline and won't go anywhere with that team in Europe.
He's obviously a brilliant player and the best British footballer around, and he'd be great for us. This league suits him to an absolute tee, as well.
My only reservations are a) the price tag and b) whether he suits lvg's plans, in that it should be an lvg signing not a signing by MUFC to get the best British player back that they've wanted for a long time. He should first and foremost fit in with what lvg wants.
Also, I don't get attitude bit. He's always come across as a team player to me.
My only reservations are a) the price tag and b) whether he suits lvg's plans, in that it should be an lvg signing not a signing by MUFC to get the best British player back that they've wanted for a long time. He should first and foremost fit in with what lvg wants.
Also, I don't get attitude bit. He's always come across as a team player to me.
Sign a couple of midfielders, a CB and a RB if Rafael is leaving. Then if we still have the money, then by all means blow it on Bale. Priorities need to be addressed first.
Totally understandable given Madrid fans have been on his back all season. There seems to be an exaggerated reaction every time things don't come off for him. I understand that for 85 million you expect someone who doesn't look out of place technically at times, but it all seems very excessive.
He's direct alright. Direct as a straight line, as that's the only direction he can run with a ball.
On a serious note though he could be a very good player for us for the right price. His long range shooting ability is actually something that could help us against teams who park the bus. Obviously he would be a huge asset if we ever need to counter attack again. I'm just hoping dearly that we don't get completely ripped off by Madrid. We paid £15-20 million too much for Di Maria in my opinion (a player who was significantly more successful at Real) and with some of the figures spouted we could be looking at £25-30 million over the odds for Bale if Woody doesn't play his cards right. I know some say they don't care about transfer fees but that extra £30 million could be another promising Depay like signing and god knows our team still needs improvements in many areas.
On a serious note though he could be a very good player for us for the right price. His long range shooting ability is actually something that could help us against teams who park the bus. Obviously he would be a huge asset if we ever need to counter attack again. I'm just hoping dearly that we don't get completely ripped off by Madrid. We paid £15-20 million too much for Di Maria in my opinion (a player who was significantly more successful at Real) and with some of the figures spouted we could be looking at £25-30 million over the odds for Bale if Woody doesn't play his cards right. I know some say they don't care about transfer fees but that extra £30 million could be another promising Depay like signing and god knows our team still needs improvements in many areas.
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