Cesc wasn't played out of position, Bale isn't (bar tonight) played out of position. So uneducated.
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Cesc wasn't played out of position, Bale isn't (bar tonight) played out of position. So uneducated.
Personally, I take each player/transfer separately. In this case, there would be a number of differences between this move and Di Maria's move.
He's getting ripped apart by Madrid fans again tonight. Most of them seem desperate to sell him.
I still think he's a great player but we don't need him. If we sell Di Maria and Madrid are willing to take a big loss on what they paid then maybe it would make sense.
I still think he's a great player but we don't need him. If we sell Di Maria and Madrid are willing to take a big loss on what they paid then maybe it would make sense.
We undoubtedly need more goals from wide, especially if we play 4-3-3, as Young/Di Maria/Januzaj just don't score anywhere near enough.
But why buy a player just because he scores goals, when he doesn't fit the system? Surely, with all the money we have, we can find a player who fits the system AND scores goals? Why compromise?
Yes I agree on that point, but we seem a bit crap in the transfer market on cheap buys recently, other than Hernandez we have had some disasters, Buttner, Bebe, Varela, Powell, Oberton, Tosic to name but a few.
We need to just get in 3-4 ready made players, that are relatively risk free, but yes probably expensive, this should stabilise things and then hopefully then we can buy a few bargains that are some good again.
I think it's a case of he keeps losing the ball (at least that's what's been reported). I guess they don't trust him.
I can agree to that. We probably need 3 or 4 more players - which is why spending so much on one doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Wouldn't it be better to get two or three for £100m than one.......
Brilliant, just reducing his fee for us to swoop in nicely 
I don't wanna sign him for 100 million honestly and not a fan of Galactico type and what would be overpaid short term signings in general but disagree here.
While Bale is more suited to a counter attacking and more direct team, he would be quite effective in a more possession oriented team as well. Especially if it's centered around him. And he suits the 4-3-3 quite well too.
Who else is there on that level of output anyway if looking at short term fix?
We're going to have to spend like f*ck just to catch up to Chelsea & their totally legal and above-board transfer dealings.
Don't put yourself down like that Steve. You keep us well entertained.
I agree that we can get alot for £100 m, Depay, Hummels, Vidal, and Lloris maybe, but in perverse way I think United want to blow a load on one player, just to prove they can.
The only thing he'd offer in our current set up is his long range shooting ability, he'd probably score a good few from there. But with everything else, he'd have the exact same problems that Di Maria/Mata/Young have when facing two banks of 4 defenders behind the ball (like Everton and West Brom). He simply doesn't have the technical skill to break down tight defences. Just look at him when he gets the ball in tight spaces for Madrid (which is pretty much all he'd have to operate with in LVG's United)
Why do we have to have a short term fix? When did we become Madrid?
Except, we are looking to play a different style of football next season, we cant sign players to fit a set up we aren't even sticking with.
I agree with @Sam.
Di Maria had half of old Trafford to work with at times on Saturday. Bale would have destroyed that space (or whatever boss used to say)
You think LVG will move away from the possession style football? He's spent all season (and his whole career) trying to drill this style of football into his players. He won't change it. No chance.
Except that Bale wouldnt come off the bench.
Long range ability, free kick threat among other things gives another dimension when you are struggling to break a team. Also, when he's the main man and the striker dropping deep he can make the diagonal runs to get at the end of crosses or passes which Ronaldo does for Real. Mata isn't that dynamic, quick or brave to do those for us right now from wide and Young doesn't do that even that much. So it all ends up depending on Rooney or Fellaini's far post act which isn't a arriving quick and late thing either.
I agree with that as i said in the post above.
Won madrid two trophies last season :P
TBh, him and Di Maria swapping would be good for both teams and both players.
TBh, him and Di Maria swapping would be good for both teams and both players.
Bale would still a whole lot more to the team that our current one-dimensional players in this playing style.
Agree and both fans too.
When did Madrid take a player back? Especially a year after selling him. Plus player swaps never happen.
Yes, but Madrid wont sell him for peanuts.
Win win lol
It wont ever ever happen. I never say never, but yeah, it doesnt really happen especially with Madrid. Or most teams.
It wont ever ever happen. I never say never, but yeah, it doesnt really happen especially with Madrid. Or most teams.
Around £60-70m and I wouldn't mind us signing him. But the figures being quoted at around £100m are a joke, especially considering he's had a poor season by any world class player standards.
Awful value for money. He's a great player and I feel bad for him, there's no way he deserves to be victimized the way he has been.
Having said that, in some of the games I've seen him in he has been quite poor. I don't like Madrid but I've still been frustrated watching him at times. I don't know if he wants to stay or not, but I don't understand why he'd want to stick around. If I was him, I wouldn't even want to win those fans over.
Having said that, in some of the games I've seen him in he has been quite poor. I don't like Madrid but I've still been frustrated watching him at times. I don't know if he wants to stay or not, but I don't understand why he'd want to stick around. If I was him, I wouldn't even want to win those fans over.
For all his weaknesses and despite me being in the Do Not Want camp, I do think he suffers from Ronaldo's presence. If he is the main man in a team he could easily perform that Ronaldo role and score a ton... maybe even do it in a more exciting way as he does have long rangers and freekicks in his repetoire as well.
I would want him if we bought 2 other players who can come up with the creativity for him to thrive on.
I would want him if we bought 2 other players who can come up with the creativity for him to thrive on.
They're not going to turn down £50-60m for a player who they believe does not have any important role to play in their future (I don't know if this is the case or not, I'm just speculating) just for the sake of saving face.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-ask-86million-star-snap-James-Rodriguez.html
Not a big deal, but is funny nonetheless
Not a big deal, but is funny nonetheless
They will, this season at least. No way will they sell him for that price this summer.
We have Hernandez and Di Maria for a trade deal also involving cash, we have a World Class GK with his heart set on Madrid for another trade deal + cash from them, Bale isn't worth more than 50m and everyone knows that even Perez, i think the 100m price tag was set by the media.
He definitely does.
The £100m price only ever came from one paper and everyone spouts it like its gospel, he was never worth more than £50m in the first place so I can honestly see him going for that price and even for that price I'd rather sign Depay.
For the comments Bale can be our Hazard we should just try sign Isco, he does exactly what Hazard does and is as good as him if not better.
For the comments Bale can be our Hazard we should just try sign Isco, he does exactly what Hazard does and is as good as him if not better.
Would rather us go all out for a solid midfielder for £35/40m rather than the proposed £100m or so on Bale.
The need to find Carrick's partner/heir/replacement or whatever is greater than the need to add to Di Maria/Mata/Januzaj/Nani/Young (Di Maria who I honestly think will improve next season.)
If we're really going to go all out for a winger then I'd go for Griezmann.
The need to find Carrick's partner/heir/replacement or whatever is greater than the need to add to Di Maria/Mata/Januzaj/Nani/Young (Di Maria who I honestly think will improve next season.)
If we're really going to go all out for a winger then I'd go for Griezmann.
We need someone who can also get goals from midfield, they have Costa.
If we get top we'll do both imo.
Like who? We're not going to sign Robben
Thats right, he would have started
Isco is quite different to Hazard in terms of goalscoring ability or even pace or dribbling.
If we want a Hazard like Player then somehow (Very unlikely) getting Sterling from Scousers is the best bet.
And people expecting Depay to come over and have a instant top drawer impact and be the main main from the go are expecting too much. We can sign Depay and another wide player. And Depay is even less of a creator for others than Bale.
If we want a Hazard like Player then somehow (Very unlikely) getting Sterling from Scousers is the best bet.
And people expecting Depay to come over and have a instant top drawer impact and be the main main from the go are expecting too much. We can sign Depay and another wide player. And Depay is even less of a creator for others than Bale.
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