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Gareth Bale
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The last time I checked my opinions were complete crap to you and you assumed I likened us to Barnsley and Scunthorpe because of two bad seasons and you then rightly put me in my place because in a forum where everyone can have an opinion only yours are correct.
I personally think a world class wide forward is priority number 1 for this team (unless DDG leaves). Signing Bale isn't going to detract from us getting the other players we need either, we've got the cash.
Adidas will be very happy of United's return to Champions League but it must happen first. That thing right there secures a huge financial stability with option of even bigger deal in future.
So far I don't see the reason why we should back off from elite footballers that we clearly lack.
But he'd never play there anyway. It's like mentioning that Rooney can do a job in goal.
Saying that, if De Gea leaves we might need him to step in.
Since we're on this subject...
...which leads us back to signing Gareth Bale anyway.
You are right,many attacking midfielders,however I like him a lot,I think that is technically very good although lacks some competitive spirit
As long as we don't solve our midfield problems, Bale wouldn't really help. I just think he's overrated
We can solve far many problems than just midfield. Whole two months plus the time given this season to make surgical assessments to LVG and Woodward so he can start investing in a pure football matters. It's not like midfield is the only area to change something on better.
Seems Neville is worried chelsea will get him & dominant for years, personally don't see him going there but stranger things have happened.
If they are after him then don't expect any favours on Sunday, Mourinho will know if we get top 4 we'll be all over him, unlike Liverpool ....
If they are after him then don't expect any favours on Sunday, Mourinho will know if we get top 4 we'll be all over him, unlike Liverpool ....
People are basically saying the same stuff about bale as they said about di maria last year, and di maria coming off a far more impressive season (not to say Bale's had a bad season at all, just ADM was exceptional).
Point is, signing random marquee signings is never going to work until the defensive and central midfield unit is up to scratch with that of chelsea, let alone any of the good european sides.
Put in Bale and watch us knock the ball side to side next season vs west brom and get done on the counter and wonder why didn't this 100m fix us
Point is, signing random marquee signings is never going to work until the defensive and central midfield unit is up to scratch with that of chelsea, let alone any of the good european sides.
Put in Bale and watch us knock the ball side to side next season vs west brom and get done on the counter and wonder why didn't this 100m fix us
Why are so many putting Bale and Di Maria in the same bracket, as if they're identical players?
I think Bale at Chelsea would be phenomenal. With him and Hazard in the same team, I made the comparison previously that Chelsea's attack would take on a similar role to the breaking attacking line of last year's Bayern Munich with Robben and Ribery on either side. It would rival the attack of any of the best teams in Europe.
Watching Sanchez again tonight, reminded me why we should go all out for Bale in the Summer. We haven't got a player who will single handedly (not saying Sanchez won the game on his own tonight) win games for us when nothing's going our way. I think Bale can be that player and will score about 20-25 goals a season from the wing for us.
With Fabregas playing balls through to Bale... God forbid.
Gaz wants this transfer more than the Caf. 
There's no doubt Bale would improve us a lot and he isn't comparable to Di Maria, it has zero to do with marquee names and everything to do with Bale is proven in this league and a powerful athlete.
There's no doubt Bale would improve us a lot and he isn't comparable to Di Maria, it has zero to do with marquee names and everything to do with Bale is proven in this league and a powerful athlete.An attacking trident of Bale, Hazard and Costa would rival Barcelona's Messi, Suarez and Neymar one. So much pace, dynamism and ability there.
Messi, Suarez and Neymar would be far superior.
It wouldn't be close but still the best in England, easily.
The only difference of course being that Bale has a consistent track record of being outstanding in England. Di Maria doesn't look happy here and looks like he'd be on the next plane to somewhere else if he had a choice
Plus Mourinho loves a defensive winger. I think Bale is best down the middle in a free role.
I don't know why people seem to think Chelsea would be unstoppable if they sign him. I don't know where they would put him. It would ask more questions than solve problems just like Ballack did.
I'd be more concerned if City got him because they need him more with his pace.
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I'm coming round to the idea he should be top priority this summer. Our offensive play over the last couple of years has been appalling and he's the only top tier attacking player we could somewhat realistically target. depay would also be a great addition at a cheaper price point, but why settle when we can afford whoever the hell we want, i doubt he wont cost any more than madrid paid for him.
If Bale isn't here next season we won't win the league. It's as simple as that. We need a world class goalscorer and at the minute we have a fading RVP, Wayne never enough to do it alone Rooney and the cripple. Steve Bruce is right your only ever as good as your striker in this league.
Completely agree. Bale without speed and power would be a completely average player. Also, assuming that he'll keep the speed when he is 30 or so based on those 2 players would be quite naive considering that:
a) he hasn't ever been as good as those two
b) he has an inferior technique
c) those two are more exception rather than the norm. Why not take the likes of Owen, Torres, Henry etc who lost their speed when they were thirty or so.
I think that it should be a now or never for Bale, and we should not pay over 60m for him.
Not even near it. It can be arged that Hazard is on the level of Suarez/Neymar but far below Messi. Bale and Costa aren't as good as either of Neymar or Suarez, let alone Messi.
I think Bale is better in close control situations than you are giving him credit for @Revan. He isn't just about speed and IMO wouldn't just be average if that speed should diminish slightly.
If Chelsea have Hazard and Bale out wide, they will win the league every season for the next 5 years.
I can't really see Bale going there, I think it's a deliberate attempt by Neville to get United's attention.
I can't really see Bale going there, I think it's a deliberate attempt by Neville to get United's attention.
I think his best assets are running with the ball and shooting. He might do a job when his speed goes, but it won't be near the world class player he was at Totenham. So spending a lot of money when he will be 27-28 is too risky IMO.
This summer would be good though (especially if we can get him for a price similar to Di Maria) considering that he'll give us 3-4 seasons at the top level.
I swear that people thought the same when they were getting every summer a muppet signings (Essien and then on te next summer Shevchenko and Ballack). It doesn't work that way. On the other side, I agree that it would be quite worrying if Chelsea or even City gets him.
Ok watch this video and tell me he's all about speed. Yeah youtube video blah, blah, but I'm only using it to prove a point that he's more than just speed. Obviously in this vid you have snips of his pace and power that you have mentioned, but also it is clear from watching the vid that he isn't just about that and like I said he certainly wouldn't just be average should that pace diminish slightly.
Essien Shevchenko and Ballack weren't PL proven which always represents a risk (di Maria and Falcao examples close to home and recent) but Bale has already been in the PL and won games on his own in it. So I stick by my point.
Youtube blah blah blah.
To be fair - having watched only half of it - I think that this video shows well how much he is depended on speed. Even when he does some good stuff, it is immediately followed by a sprint. My point is that he isn't exactly a player who can find other players in dangerous positions (something that we hoped Di Maria can be), and while he won't be exactly Lennon (when his speed goes), he won't be really that good.
Still, I think that if we can sign him this summer we should do so. Even if that means that we have to sell Di Maria. If we can get 50mfrom Di Maria and sign Bale for 60-70m if might be a good business. Bale surely is suited better for this league, despite that think that Di Maria at his best is a better player.
Disagree there. I know in the video that there is sprinting consistent throughout, but not everything he does is followed by a sprint. Anyway, you won't back down no matter how much evidence is thrown your way, so we'll agree to disagree eh.
OK, he won't be an average player, but he won't also be a great player and probably/likely he won't eb good enough to start for a team who aspires to win the league/UCL. That is asuming that he loses speed in first place, which is quite related if he'll gonna have bad injuries or not.
Fair dos. I can't see this transfer happening if I'm honest anyway, It will be another case of chasing the impossible, only for him to turn around and say he's happy at Real etc, etc. Then next year he'll sign for someone else after we've moved on. Can see it now.
Yep. Also, if LVG sticks with boring posession game (lets face it, that is guaranteed to happen), I can't see how Bale will work in that system.
I hope we get Depay and a young striker with potential to bcome world class (Dybala, Vietto, Icardi, Lacazette) instead, then improve the midfield and defense, play Di Maria in form and we would be as good as any team in the league.
Agree with you there.
Bale and United are ideally suited. Who wouldn't want him tearing up our left wing?
His last season at spurs:
His last season at spurs:
Who would be a great player if they lost there speed. It's a stupid argument. Hazard would drop a level if he lost his acceleration. Should we take that into account if we wanted him?
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