You don't want to spend more than £50m on Bale, even though you dropped a lot more than that on Di Maria?
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You don't want to spend more than £50m on Bale, even though you dropped a lot more than that on Di Maria?
Exactly.
Di Maria was an inflated fee. He's clearly not a £60m player, just as Bale clearly isn't an 80-100m player. They are both worth roughly half of their respective last fees.
Yeah, lets make the same mistake twice shall we...
We paid too much for Di Maria, even if he will be great in the long-term, no doubt about that. But that doesn't mean we should do the same this year again.
If we believe Bale cost Real €100m like the British press said in 2013 (Spain quoted a lower figure), then that would have been £85.3m back then (more than they paid for Ronaldo in 2009 ridiculously 
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The same €100m today would be £73.8m.
If we are determined to overspend on Bale this summer, then I'd damn sure not pay above €100m - this would allow Real to get back what they spent on him in € thus allowing them to save face, but we'd have spent less than was spunked on him in 2013.
I don't think he's worth anything like that, but giving Real a € profit on him would be madness IMHO (though we probably can't rule it out given our recent history of transfer fees).
).The same €100m today would be £73.8m.
If we are determined to overspend on Bale this summer, then I'd damn sure not pay above €100m - this would allow Real to get back what they spent on him in € thus allowing them to save face, but we'd have spent less than was spunked on him in 2013.
I don't think he's worth anything like that, but giving Real a € profit on him would be madness IMHO (though we probably can't rule it out given our recent history of transfer fees).
Two birds with one stone - we approach Real for Bale, they take Hazard from Chelsea. We get a proven Prem goalscorer, which we need & Chelsea are weakened. Of the players Jose might want to move on, Hazard won't be one of them & this could give him all sorts of problems. Take Hazard out of Chelsea & they don't have a thirteen point lead next season.
We'd actually probably ask for Bale as part of any deal for Hazard.
Even if the scenario you describe happens it's not like we wouldn't replace Hazard somehow.
I really don't understand the obsession with the transfer fee. I'm sure Madrid didn't think about how much they paid after he scored the winner in both cups last season.
Both articles by Ogden and Ladyman state that our business will continue as normal, and if Bale is available the club will find up to £100m extra to make it happen. I sure as hell will not care how much he costs. Would rather pay for a ticket to watch Bale tearing down the left wing than Ashley Young.
Oh, and Hazard can't get anywhere near Bale. Hazard isn't as good as Sanchez let alone Bale.
Both articles by Ogden and Ladyman state that our business will continue as normal, and if Bale is available the club will find up to £100m extra to make it happen. I sure as hell will not care how much he costs. Would rather pay for a ticket to watch Bale tearing down the left wing than Ashley Young.
Oh, and Hazard can't get anywhere near Bale. Hazard isn't as good as Sanchez let alone Bale.
Bale vs Hazard - not sure. I think they are equal.
Hazard vs Sanchez - Hazard is better. After all, he is currently rated as the best player in the EPL
Christ, I honestly didnt realise that Chelsea were so far ahead, until you mentioned it.
13 points is a monumental lead to have.
And the astonishing thing is that this lead could extend further by the time the season ends.
Mourinho just seems to know how to win.
Rather than spend £100M on Bale, perhaps we should pay £100M to Mourinho and ask him to take a year or two, out
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They were a corner away from losing the CL final, a final which Bale was actually very poor in for the 90 minutes. He didnt score the winner or the most important goal of that match, Ramos's header was the real goal of the game.
Also, you do realise he hasn't played left wing consistently for like 3 years...
i'd actually prefer Di Maria at his best for 60m....
As far as I'm concerned, that was a freakish season in terms of amount of ridiculous goals scored from long range. This is isn't a formula he can keep reproducing over and over again.
Bale's better than Di Maria. I would say Di Maria's value should have been £30-40m (considering Fab and Sanchez went for 30 each and are around that level). Bale I would say £50-60m.
Good luck with that
Why Hazard will be a better player!
Yeah, you're right. It is a bit laughable that we'd swap for an inferior player.
Good luck with that
Nothing to do with who is the better player, Madrid won't give Bale up in any part-exchange deal given how much they paid for him.
It's as ludicrous as people on here saying we should ask for Bale as part of a potential De Gea transfer.
No its not. You're just being daft!
They will if they want our player. Or they'll just have to break the world transfer record by a huge margin.
Spend 120 mil on him and convert him back to LB just to piss him off.
If you think Madrid will give Chelsea cash + Bale for Hazard then you must be an ostrich... are you flexible enough to get your head in the sand?
I'd have Bale over Hazard any day, even though he isn't as technically pure he'd still destroy this league again to stupid levels.
I can't get enough of the Ostrich comments, where I'm from in Ireland people use it as a funny insult so I've only ever hear it here but now its everywhere since that presser
I don't think Hazard is top 3 in the league. Journalists voted Gerrard as the 2nd best player in the league last year, when he was garbage.
It was still the match wining goal? Conveniently ignored his wonder goal in the Copa Del Rey final.
My point was more that I'd rather watch players of the quality of Bale than Young and Fellaini every week, as decent as they have been.
Bale would easily come here and reach 30 goals in his first season. For that alone... bring him back.
I'm all for it. We need a talisman in my opinion; someone that teams fear as they can win games on their own. He'd be well suited to that role.
For the money we could get Gundugan/Schiederlin, Depay, and Hummels.
Sure I will take Bale, but we need more than one player. No idea how much we have to spend, but we need to build the team is all I am saying.
Sure I will take Bale, but we need more than one player. No idea how much we have to spend, but we need to build the team is all I am saying.
Yep, wonder if we'll ever see the 'old' Di Maria.
Find it hard to judge the value of Bale as he would likely be our most marketable player. I'm sure the money we'd earn off him is taken into account in any transfer fee.
Hazard has 55 goals and 43 assists in his first three seasons here in the premier league and with 4 games left in the season, he is surely going to add to that. In Bale's best three seasons before his departure to Madrid, he had 57 goals and 30 assists to his name. So, there is nothing much in it if you compare their goal scoring records but Hazard's contribution to the team is greater overall as accounted by his assist tally.
I would rather have someone who is technically great with great stats to back up his play than a player who relies mostly on his physical aspects and Hazard is actually a better player than Bale overall.
Did Woody brief the media on this? Cause if he did, there's a strategic reason behind it. Keep in mind Ed is shrewd, anything he does is for a purpose.
I am not a transfer muppet and never have been. In fact I wouldn't be too bothered if we bought 2 players in the summerbut I make an exception for Bale. I simply think he is one of those very few who offer the X factor in that he can win a game on his own. There are plenty of WC players but very very few true game changers.
He'd be the talisman and match-winner we need, and that most top teams have. He'd scare teams in this league again, and he'd probably score 25 across all competitions, if we bought him this summer. Built for the Premier League.
No brainer.
No brainer.
I could see lvg playing him at wing back
I think you're probably one of the few who shares this belief.
if we shifted Di Maria out to make way for Bale I would be very comfy with that indeed.
Early season, I was one of the few who thought Di Maria should be utilised as a winger not a central midfielder. Might have worked with the top class cast around him at Real Madrid, but centre mid with us he just constantly gave the ball away, and got muscled out of it when over dribbling
I cannot imagine why people keep ignoring this argument, even though it's very valid.
We, as well as every single pundit out there uses it for Di Maria. Saying how he is still the world class player he used to be and England just isn't the league for him. Yet apparently, solely because of his price tag, that simply cannot be the case for Bale. That's utter garbage.
I think Bale's biggest problem is Spain. It just isn't the league for him. It requires more passing, more flare, it's a softer league and you get penalised for shouldering off a defender. Incisive, blistering runs with power and balance just aren't viable there. The second Bale returns to the prem, and I do think it's inevitable, I have a feeling he'd be that unplayable monster that played for Spurs a couple of years ago.
And if that's the case, I would not want him on an opposing side. Plus he'd slot right into our 4-3-3.
Would you rather have next season: Lloris and Bale or De Gea and Memphis?
We could realistically have 3 of the 4 next year.
But if its just two, i'd rather keep big Dave and have an emerging 21 year old Depay, as they would allow us to buy a few more players in other areas, whereas Bale and Lloris would probably cost upwards of 80m.
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