Gareth Bale

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£100 is crazy talk. He is worth no more than £60m, may be £70m with our penchance for overpaying.

I would love to have Bale in our squad. We have missed a genuine world class threat outwide since Ronaldo left for Real. Bale fills that void.
 
Hazard would thrive in a LvG team, exactly what we need to break teams that park the bus. So i would take him before Bale. Under Fergie, i would take Bale. Think he would have been a monster (Hazard too obviously, but Bale edges it)
 
Hazard has talent in abundance but Bales drive is incredible. Hazard has yet to reach the levels of Bale imo but could surpass him eventually. But as it stands if Bale came back to the premier league he'd instantly be the best player and winger in the league.
 
If Real Madrid are getting a transfer ban for the next transfer window then there's no way that they will sell Bale.

No one will pay £100m for Bale but i would pay £60m for him.
If he's available then we must do everything to get him because he would improve us to another level.
 
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GlastonSpur said:
Bale scored 26 goals for Spurs in his last season with us, plus many assists. Many of those goals were not "screamers from outside of the box".
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Harry Kane has scored 30 this season in a worse spurs side. Let's all spunk 100 million on him. Bale has had a poor year, lazy, doesn't score that much, doesn't track back, isn't as good as Ronaldo, James, Isco, Benzema, Modric.. Real wouldn't miss him at all I don't think, especially if they brought in Hazard. I think even Hernandez has a better goals/assists per game ratio this season if stats are what matter.
 
The thing is, he's being played on his switched foot.

And for all the flak it gets around this board, La Liga (imo) is a much more compact league than Premiership. Specially because teams play much more patient and less direct (EPL is more up and down, which means there are more spaces). So Bale in theory has much more empty spaces to run at in England than in Spanish league.
 
Orton said:
Harry Kane has scored 30 this season in a worse spurs side. Let's all spunk 100 million on him. Bale has had a poor year, lazy, doesn't score that much, doesn't track back, isn't as good as Ronaldo, James, Isco, Benzema, Modric.. Real wouldn't miss him at all I don't think, especially if they brought in Hazard. I think even Hernandez has a better goals/assists per game ratio this season if stats are what matter.
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Are you intentionally being retarded? Kane is a striker who's main role is to score goals. Bale is and was a pure winger. 30 goals and 11 assists from the wings are fantastic stats for a winger.
 
TheUnitedWay said:
Are you intentionally being retarded? Kane is a striker who's main role is to score goals. Bale is and was a pure winger. 30 goals and 11 assists from the wings are fantastic stats for a winger.
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No need for that nonsense.

He wasn't a pure winger in his last season at Spurs either.
 
TheUnitedWay said:
Are you intentionally being retarded? Kane is a striker who's main role is to score goals. Bale is and was a pure winger. 30 goals and 11 assists from the wings are fantastic stats for a winger.
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In his last season at Spurs his main role was to score goals. He was the focal point of the team and took on loads of shots each game. At madrid he's just not been that good. Gwg's aside in 2 big games last season it's his general play that seems to be letting him down. In the CL final he was dire and missed countless good chances. Ronaldo improved at Real, whereas Bale has stalled. No guarantee he would rip this league up again either. Remember he only had 1 world class season. I'm probably harsh on him. Just don't think he's anywhere near as good. Great shot on him and lots of pace. I don't see much more that stands out above the rest.
 
Orton said:
In his last season at Spurs his main role was to score goals. He was the focal point of the team and took on loads of shots each game. At madrid he's just not been that good. Gwg's aside in 2 big games last season it's his general play that seems to be letting him down. In the CL final he was dire and missed countless good chances. Ronaldo improved at Real, whereas Bale has stalled. No guarantee he would rip this league up again either. Remember he only had 1 world class season. I'm probably harsh on him. Just don't think he's anywhere near as good. Great shot on him and lots of pace. I don't see much more that stands out above the rest.
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Actually he was very good last season. And turned up in some of their biggest games. This season has been a bad year for him, though. He's looked completely out of place, his confidence is low, and his technical quality on the ball or the lack thereof makes him look the odd one out at times.

I personally don't think he's worth the price tag, nor would he make sense in our system. If anything, he's more suited to real than where we're headed.
 
Well yeah he was better last year, and like I said the 2 big goals he scored. Overall though I'd say he's been a bit of a let down for Madrid considering the outlay. I don't see why people would get so excited at the prospect of us breaking another transfer record for him.
 
Orton said:
Well yeah he was better last year, and like I said the 2 big goals he scored. Overall though I'd say he's been a bit of a let down for Madrid considering the outlay. I don't see why people would get so excited at the prospect of us breaking another transfer record for him.
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They're all remembering his Spurs form thats why, but its no guarantee he will be able to replicate that, esp in LVGs possession based system. Still think he would be a good player for us, but £100 is crazy, I would expect Ronaldo/Messi levels for that outlay.
 
Orton said:
Well yeah he was better last year, and like I said the 2 big goals he scored. Overall though I'd say he's been a bit of a let down for Madrid considering the outlay. I don't see why people would get so excited at the prospect of us breaking another transfer record for him.
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Him being he best British player around plays its part I reckon. I do agree people get overly excited by him. I mean I think he'd be great if we were playing the old 442 with loads of width and crossing, but we're at a vert different place now.

Besides, people here were laughing away when Madrid decided to buy him for 80 million. They're not going to suddenly sell him for 30 million now.
 
Think we'll sign him this summer, or at least try very very hard to. He'll be fantastic for us
 
Sammyjunn said:
Well, Hazard isnt bad either. The player who's single handedly leading Chelsea to the title (with Matic and Fabregas out of form, and Costa injured constantly).
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He's not though, he might be their most consistent player but this Chelsea side has a brilliant defense, fantastic goal keeper and Matic, Fabregas and Costa were superb at the start of the season, hardly a one man band. Hazard does have bursts of brilliance but he can't single handedly destroy a team in the way Bale can.
 
ivaldo said:
He's not though, he might be their most consistent player but this Chelsea side has a brilliant defense, fantastic goal keeper and Matic, Fabregas and Costa were superb at the start of the season, hardly a one man band. Hazard does have bursts of brilliance but he can't single handedly destroy a team in the way Bale can.
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Bale doesn't single handedly destroy teams.
 
ivaldo said:
He's not though, he might be their most consistent player but this Chelsea side has a brilliant defense, fantastic goal keeper and Matic, Fabregas and Costa were superb at the start of the season, hardly a one man band. Hazard does have bursts of brilliance but he can't single handedly destroy a team in the way Bale can.
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And Bale cant really make something happen out of nothing when a team sits back, which is what we need more. Bale thrives in a counter attacking side, Hazard can play brilliantly in both.
 
kouroux said:
He'd cost way too much money in relation to what he could bring to the table.
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I'm not sure what more you can bring to the table than his final season at Spurs, which ultimately earned him a 100m move to Madrid. He'll be playing with better players here too, and knows the league very well.
 
Anyone else feel that the timing of the leak was entirely strategical?

The Real Madrid potential transfer turn up the heat on them to bring DDG in, in turn we outline our desired outcome from proceedings.
 
Shark said:
I'm not sure what more you can bring to the table than his final season at Spurs, which ultimately earned him a 100m move to Madrid. He'll be playing with better players here too, and knows the league very well.
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He's playing at the 2nd/3rd best team in the world. He will never play with better players than he's already doing. I seen a comment saying if he comes here he will easily bag 30/40 goals. Based on what? 2012/13 was 2 seasons ago. When rvp and Falcao were the best strikers in the world. The player will be different now, knowing that he went to Madrid and didn't quite cut it. Good stats and average performances. I'd rather have both.
 
Can't really blame him for being greedy this year, firstly because he's a goal scorer and secondly he's probably trying so hard to win over the fans by scoring.
 
Trizy said:
Can't really blame him for being greedy this year, firstly because he's a goal scorer and secondly he's probably trying so hard to win over the fans by scoring.
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Isn't it his general play that's letting him down more? Madrid fans are a fickle bunch but they are on his back a bit even when he does score.
 
ivaldo said:
He's not though, he might be their most consistent player but this Chelsea side has a brilliant defense, fantastic goal keeper and Matic, Fabregas and Costa were superb at the start of the season, hardly a one man band. Hazard does have bursts of brilliance but he can't single handedly destroy a team in the way Bale can.
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I agree with you on this, Hazard is a top player no doubt but more in the way Sanchez, Silva, or Reus are top players (I'm not comparing their playing style by the way), in that they can open a game up with a wonderful pass, or score good goals, but they are missing that something extra that Ronaldo, Messi, Robben and to a lesser extent Bale have, as you say just that raw power to smash teams on their own.

I would welcome him here for what ever it cost, but I really want Depay too, just a bit greedy I suppose.
 
Acquire Me said:
I cant believe that someone actually mean that Hazard is the better player.
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It is a tough call whose better.. I'd probably say Hazard has the potential to be better than him because he is superior technically and has a better footballing brain but Bale is a very unique player in his own right.. he is extremely courageous on the ball and that is what sets him apart from his peers.

He is very inhibited at Madrid and yet still does pretty well considering the toxic atmosphere there.. he is definitely a 50m level of talent minimum and I think at a club like united we could bring out the best in him. He would definitely make us title contenders but is he 100m - no.. for me that is Ronaldo/Messi money.

Bale runs at players, he has some tricks in his arsenal which especially for Wales he isn't afraid to pull out and his weaker foot is getting better. His free kicks are out of this world and I genuinely think he could be the best in the world at it if he was allowed to take them regularly and perfect this art. Commercially as well he'd be perfect.. Bale in a united adidas kit, its a great selling point.

I'd be willing to go 70m on him.
 
I don't think it's tough at all. Hazard is quite clearly superior.
 
Raees said:
Commercially as well he'd be perfect.. Bale in a united adidas kit, its a great selling point.

I'd be willing to go 70m on him.
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People seem not to grasp the commercial value that a player of Bale's stature brings to the club and how that will be reflected in his fee.

Imagine if we can get an in form Di Maria and Bale on either side of a 4-4-3?!

If we pull off the signings that are mooted in Ogden's article yesterday then we would be capable of winning the CL, never mind the PL!
 
Orton said:
He's playing at the 2nd/3rd best team in the world. He will never play with better players than he's already doing. I seen a comment saying if he comes here he will easily bag 30/40 goals. Based on what? 2012/13 was 2 seasons ago. When rvp and Falcao were the best strikers in the world. The player will be different now, knowing that he went to Madrid and didn't quite cut it. Good stats and average performances. I'd rather have both.
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Yes, but unlike someone like Di Maria, he knows the Premier League very well and is pretty much built for the league with his strength and pace. That makes a hell of a difference in terms of settling into the team quickly as well. We're also not a star studded team like Madrid, and like at Spurs, I think he'd thrive on being one of the main men again.

I don't see how the player will be different, what exactly is that based on? not cutting it at Madrid and then going to the biggest club in England is hardly a fecking nightmare.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
People seem not to grasp the commercial value that a player of Bale's stature brings to the club and how that will be reflected in his fee.

Imagine if we can get an in form Di Maria and Bale on either side of a 4-4-3?!

If we pull off the signings that are mooted in Ogden's article yesterday then we would be capable of winning the CL, never mind the PL!
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I don't think we should cheat :)

I think Hazard is slightly better but it's a pointless comparison as we have no chance of signing him.

I'm fully in favor of signing Bale. With Rooney entering his thirties, we actually do need a superstar attacking player.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
People seem not to grasp the commercial value that a player of Bale's stature brings to the club and how that will be reflected in his fee.

Imagine if we can get an in form Di Maria and Bale on either side of a 4-4-3?!

If we pull off the signings that are mooted in Ogden's article yesterday then we would be capable of winning the CL, never mind the PL!
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Spot on, mate.
 
If we're really going to go after him we should employ every last one of Madrid's shitbag tactics against them.

If only we had our own equivalent of Marca.
 
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